richarddd wrote:
tedolf wrote:
richarddd wrote:
The rule of thirds is notion, not a hard and fast rule.
Many prefer the golden ratio.
Even for over-zealous fans of the rule of thirds, you can put the sun on the lower third line or you can put the horizon on that line.
Naaaaaaw........
I am not going to let you get away with that.
If you have a scene with strong vertical or horizontal (e.g the horizon) lines those are the things that are supposed to go on corresponding imaginary horizontal or vertical lines 1/3 of the way from the edge of the frame.
Supposed to go? We're talking about a rule of thumb, not a law of nature.
If you have a non-linear subject (person, bumble bee, flower, etc.) those are supposed to go on one of the intersections of the imaginary horizontal and vertical 1/3 lines.
See your prior sentence. You can put the "strong ... horizontal (e.g the horizon) line" (in this case the horizon) on the 1/3 line or you can put the "non-linear subject (person, bumble bee, flower, etc.)" (in this case the sun) on the 1/3 line.
you are not reading carefully enough. Re-read what I wrote.
If the composition has stronge vertical or horizontal lines, those lines are supposed to go on the imaginary 1/3 horizontal or vertical lines. "On" as in "superimposed".
OR
If the composition has a non-linear subject like a bumble bee, the bumble bee is supposed to go
on the intersection of those lines. The intersections are four points, each about one quarter of the way in from the corners of the frame to the center of the frame on diagonal lines passing from the corners through the center of the frame.
That is the Rule of Thirds
You can't do both (at least not without very heavy cropping of the top and bottom).
Ageed, you can't do both.
You have to do one or the other-they are mutually exclusive (usually but not always).
In this photo, you actually could do both but I wouldn't.
You do one if your scene is primarily linear, you do the other if the scene is primarily non-linear
Most Live View cameras actually have an option to project these lines onto the scene and old film SLR's with interchangeable view screens had a "Rule of Thirds" screen with the lines inscribed on them you could put in place of the standard view screen.
So? Lightroom gives you a bunch of overlays, including the golden ratio and the Fibonacci sequence.
So, you are supposed to apply the Rule at the time you take the photo.
Depending on what you captured, sometimes you can't fix it to follow the rule afterwards.
If you put the horizon on the line, the sun is approximately dead center.
But he didn't put the horizon on the 1/3 line.
He put it on a 1/4 or 1/5 line from the bottom of the frame.
Note the word "if" in my response.
Yes, you are correct.
But he didn't so what is your point?
I am lost here.
Having the subject dead center is not an approach usually associated with the rule of thirds.
True, but if you follow the rule for the linear parts you are at least arguably following the Rule.
I suppose you have to decide whether the Sun dominates or the Horizon.
But this is getting achedemic at this point as the OP did neither.
Remeber scene lines go on the Rule of Third "lines", scene non-linear things go on the four Rule of Thirds "points".
You don't put non-linear things on the ROT lines, and you don't put non-linear things on one of the four ROT points.
