650D sensor 44% worse in low light than nikon d5200 (DxO)

or just set the standard picture style sharpness setting back from the default setting of 3 back to 0 and you have same image quality as the 600D/T3i ...
 
I downloaded raw of nikon d5200 (nef) and compared with raw of 650d (at imaging-resource) and processed files at 200, 3200 and 6400 iso with DXO optics 8.1.3, default parameters, and ...

There is nearly no difference with both camera.

The pictures are great (even crop 100% vs 110% due to 24vs18)

If there are differences, they are marginal !

Great cameras
 
Do you have info on the T4i filter being weak generating more moire than say a 60d?

Bryan and I say shoot Raw and use Lightoom for best results

but the T4i's jpg engine is very good and Bryan's review has found
Hmm made me wonder. I checked it in the studio comparison tool, using the RAW files for comparison:

See here: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/stu...r&x=-0.14105020039399496&y=0.5076761353756728

- red fabric at the left of the playing card:
Pinkish fabric left & above red fabric:
the 650D and 600D show most moire, 60D and 7D have less moire.

And here: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/stu...1448&y=0.19382810503970685&extraCameraCount=0

- white text on red background and face at the right:
Most detail on 650D/600D. The 60D and 7D are less sharp. I cannot rule out focus variations on this one. That's why I included the fabric link.

Or it's my eyes. What do you guys think?



Regards,

10s
 
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10s wrote:

What do you guys think?
None of that matters.

If you're an expert photographer shooting thousands of images under demanding conditions to the highest technical standards, then it might be worth thinking about. Otherwise, the skill, imagination, passion, and dedication of the photographer matters a thousand times more than barely perceptible differences in gear.
 
WilbaW wrote:
10s wrote:

What do you guys think?
None of that matters.

If you're an expert photographer shooting thousands of images under demanding conditions to the highest technical standards, then it might be worth thinking about. Otherwise, the skill, imagination, passion, and dedication of the photographer matters a thousand times more than barely perceptible differences in gear.
agree,

too much is made of gear. gear has reached diminishing returns
 
Wilba, I fully agree to your comments. But I do not understand your reaction in this context. MAC asked for info on the AA filter. I tried do find evidence in the studio samples and I do see a difference. The gearhead in me wants to know how the darn thing works internally. And of course it often makes no significant difference. But I do like the sharp ones I get from my T4i at ISO 100 with low noise in blue skies :-)

Regards,

10s
 
10s wrote:

Wilba, I fully agree to your comments. But I do not understand your reaction in this context. MAC asked for info on the AA filter. I tried do find evidence in the studio samples and I do see a difference. The gearhead in me wants to know how the darn thing works internally. And of course it often makes no significant difference. But I do like the sharp ones I get from my T4i at ISO 100 with low noise in blue skies :-)
Um, my reaction is that none of those "often makes no significant difference" differences matter to photographers like you and me, that they aren't worth worrying about. I don't get what you don't understand. :-)
 

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