Regarding ACR 7

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I've noticed that if I have processed a RAW image (DNG) in an earlier version of ACR (6?) then attempt it in Camera Raw 7 I get the older options on sliders, specifically it reverts to 'fill-light' rather than the much better Highlight and Shadow options. This only happens in previously developed files.

Any ideas?
 
After you edit a RAW file in ACR, it produces a small .xmp (sidecar) file which is used by ACR to re-open the same RAW with the settings you used to develop it last time. It will be in the same directory as the original RAW.

It will use that 'sidecar' file again even if opened in ACR7. Try renaming the sidecar file temporarily so that ACR7 doesn't recognise it. ACR7 will now open the RAW with the ACR7 contols you mentioned instead of the previous ACR controls. HOWEVER, it will not use your previous slider settings now.

Cheers, Tony.
 
I don't actually use ACR but I do use Lightroom all the time. There is a box to tick called "Use current process" or something similar (I am not at my home computer) and that will then open the photo in the latest version of ACR. Do you see something similar in ACR itself?
 
jwhig wrote:

I don't actually use ACR but I do use Lightroom all the time. There is a box to tick called "Use current process" or something similar (I am not at my home computer) and that will then open the photo in the latest version of ACR. Do you see something similar in ACR itself?
 
brettmeikle wrote:

I've noticed that if I have processed a RAW image (DNG) in an earlier version of ACR (6?) then attempt it in Camera Raw 7 I get the older options on sliders, specifically it reverts to 'fill-light' rather than the much better Highlight and Shadow options. This only happens in previously developed files.

Any ideas?
There are significant differences between the new process (2012) and the previous process which means that convert an image from the old process to the new can result in significant changes that may require "correcting".

For this reason Adobe don't automatically change all your old images to the new process as you may well be perfectly happy with them as they are. Given that you can't undo the changes once made you might want to consider creating a virtual copy and updating that to the new process.
 
Not quite.... DNG don't have sidecar files. Just like PNG, TIFF, JPEG and other rendered files, the xmp editing instructions are written directly to the file header of the DNG file. XMP sidecar files are only generated for raw files since Adobe's design philosophy is that raw files can never be modified by their software.





tony brown wrote:

After you edit a RAW file in ACR, it produces a small .xmp (sidecar) file which is used by ACR to re-open the same RAW with the settings you used to develop it last time. It will be in the same directory as the original RAW.

It will use that 'sidecar' file again even if opened in ACR7. Try renaming the sidecar file temporarily so that ACR7 doesn't recognise it. ACR7 will now open the RAW with the ACR7 contols you mentioned instead of the previous ACR controls. HOWEVER, it will not use your previous slider settings now.

Cheers, Tony.
 
For this reason Adobe don't automatically change all your old images to the new process as you may well be perfectly happy with them as they are. Given that you can't undo the changes once made you might want to consider creating a virtual copy and updating that to the new process.
For a Lightroom user, it is in any case possible to go back in the History which will show a step "update to current process". Clicking before that in the sequence, will return the image to the Develop settings that were then active, applying those settings under that Process Version once more. You can switch between process versions as you wish, it is all reversible.

Whatever settings then do not appear, are still remembered in the background - so if you have a particular "fill light" setting in PV2010, and then click the exlamation mark icon to go to PV2012, you may need to use other sliders to achieve a similar result as the now missing "fill light" parameter. But if you then go back to the PV2010, your fill light will reappear on the same setting as it had before (though the image may have changed due to ialtering other sliders meanwhile).

The same should apply to ACR, except you do not have the same History function available there. However if you make a Snapshot before updating to the new Process Version, this snapshot will record (and therefore be able to later recall) the earlier PV used, as well as all the settings that go with that.

You can use Snapshots in LR too, if you prefer to preserve the state just before updating PV explicitly, with a name.

RP
 
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