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I just received my new 5dlll. I inserted an old CF card and took a couple of test shots without formatting the card. To my amazement the file indicated that it was image 7,200!

Did this happen because I did not format the card prior to shooting? Can the shutter count truly be that high? The camera was purchased new from B&H, so I can't imagine this happening.

Any advise would be appreciated.
Glenn
 
Yeah, you goofed up... On a brand new camera you need to format a used card in a PC and then put it in your camer and format it again.

The camera photo count starts at the last picture on the camera, or the last one on the card (if it can read one...) whichever is greater. In your case, the last picture placed on the card. A freshly formatted card from a PC has no information the camera can read, so it takes the numbering from the camera.

The next card you put in your camera, new or pre-formatted will start at the picture number stored in the camera now. Which is 7200+
 
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Why is there a need to double format? In-camera is sufficient unless I've been missing something in the last 10 years.



Silicon Sam said:
Silicon Sam wrote:

Yeah, you goofed up... On a brand new camera you need to format a used card in a PC and then put it in your camer and format it again.

The camera photo count starts at the last picture on the camera, or the last one on the card (if it can read one...) whichever is greater. In your case, the last picture placed on the card. A freshly formatted card from a PC has no information the camera can read, so it takes the numbering from the camera.

The next card you put in your camera, new or pre-formatted will start at the picture number stored in the camera now. Which is 7200+
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EOSMSG works with the 5D3, and the 1DX :-)
 
Richard91758 said:
Richard wrote:

Why is there a need to double format? In-camera is sufficient unless I've been missing something in the last 10 years.
Richard91758 said:
Silicon Sam wrote:

Yeah, you goofed up... On a brand new camera you need to format a used card in a PC and then put it in your camer and format it again.

The camera photo count starts at the last picture on the camera, or the last one on the card (if it can read one...) whichever is greater. In your case, the last picture placed on the card. A freshly formatted card from a PC has no information the camera can read, so it takes the numbering from the camera.

The next card you put in your camera, new or pre-formatted will start at the picture number stored in the camera now. Which is 7200+
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Formatting in the camera does not get rid of the data of the last picture number taken on a used card. Only when it is formatted in a PC or Mac does it wipe out that particular data.

Formatting in camera is just fine, that's the way I do it, but if you truly want to zero out the last numbered picture data, you have to truly format it first from a PC or Mac. If you use the same set of cards all the time, just format in the camera. But if you use a card from another camera with a higher picture count, delete that data first.
 
If the camera retained the 7200 number and you can't get the file number to go back to _0001 with a newly formatted card try this...........

Take a newly formatted card and take a single test shot. Place the card in a reader and edit with the PC. Renumber that image filename to the number you want (_0001?). In the menu set camera to auto reset numbering mode and put the card in the camera then take one shot. It will be numbered one greater than the number you had on the card. Return to the menu and change back to continuous numbering mode.
 
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I don't mean to be contrary but I owned six Canon DSLR's and have never had to format a memory card to get the image files to start at IMG_0001. It has always been the camera that determines where the file numbering starts (I realize there are ways to change this, e.g., have the numbering continue based on the memory card, but I beleive that is the default setting.)

So... personally I'd be concerned if I purchased a brand-new camera and the first file number was 7200...
 
24Peter said:
24Peter wrote:

I don't mean to be contrary but I owned six Canon DSLR's and have never had to format a memory card to get the image files to start at IMG_0001. It has always been the camera that determines where the file numbering starts (I realize there are ways to change this, e.g., have the numbering continue based on the memory card, but I beleive that is the default setting.)
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It's just a good tool if you want to set the camera file number relative to the corresponding shutter count, not necessarily resetting to _0001. I've accidentally swapped CF cards from another camera which jacked my file number sequence by 6500 so I just reset it to where it should've been........


24Peter said:
So... personally I'd be concerned if I purchased a brand-new camera and the first file number was 7200...
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True, but I believe the OP realizes the high number corresponded to the last file# on the card he put into the camera.....
 
Silicon Sam said:
Silicon Sam wrote:

Yeah, you goofed up... On a brand new camera you need to format a used card in a PC and then put it in your camer and format it again.

The camera photo count starts at the last picture on the camera, or the last one on the card (if it can read one...) whichever is greater. In your case, the last picture placed on the card. A freshly formatted card from a PC has no information the camera can read, so it takes the numbering from the camera.

The next card you put in your camera, new or pre-formatted will start at the picture number stored in the camera now. Which is 7200+
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Not sure that this is accurate info. I formatted card in camera, not PC then camera and started with 00012.

My quetion is that image name is actually Y5A500012. Where did the Y5A5 come from??
 
1003mikey said:
1003mikey wrote:
1003mikey said:
Silicon Sam wrote:

Yeah, you goofed up... On a brand new camera you need to format a used card in a PC and then put it in your camer and format it again.

The camera photo count starts at the last picture on the camera, or the last one on the card (if it can read one...) whichever is greater. In your case, the last picture placed on the card. A freshly formatted card from a PC has no information the camera can read, so it takes the numbering from the camera.

The next card you put in your camera, new or pre-formatted will start at the picture number stored in the camera now. Which is 7200+
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Not sure that this is accurate info. I formatted card in camera, not PC then camera and started with 00012.

My quetion is that image name is actually Y5A500012. Where did the Y5A5 come from??
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The Y5A5 is a designated code for your specific camera preset at the factory but you don't have to continue using it........you have options to change your file code within the menu system......
 
1003mikey said:
1003mikey wrote:
1003mikey said:
Silicon Sam wrote:

Yeah, you goofed up... On a brand new camera you need to format a used card in a PC and then put it in your camer and format it again.

The camera photo count starts at the last picture on the camera, or the last one on the card (if it can read one...) whichever is greater. In your case, the last picture placed on the card. A freshly formatted card from a PC has no information the camera can read, so it takes the numbering from the camera.

The next card you put in your camera, new or pre-formatted will start at the picture number stored in the camera now. Which is 7200+
Click to expand...
Not sure that this is accurate info. I formatted card in camera, not PC then camera and started with 00012.

My quetion is that image name is actually Y5A500012. Where did the Y5A5 come from??
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Could be from the last picture taken on the card. Different cameras and manufacturers use different designation in from of picture numbers. Some cameras may give you the option of designating a prefix as well.

Just formatting in the camera alone will NOT get rid of that information. You HAVE to format a used card in a PC first to get rid of it. Simple as that.
 
amazing what answers you can find in a manual



btw, never format your card on a PC/Mac. Do it in camera, always.
 
I had exactly the same experience with my 5DMkIII which also started to count from the last file number on the card which had been taken from my 5DMkII. Since the camera was clearly brand new, with the seal on the box intact etc., I realised this was what had happened.

Changing the file numbering name and formatting the card soon solved that one. Files then started at 0001.

After 700 shots I got Error 30 and had to send the camera in for repair. With a new shutter installed, the count started where it had left off proving conclusively that the file numbering was on the card and not in the camera.

NB At least with the 5DMkIII we don't have to take 5,000 shots or more to stop the oil slicks on the sensor that D600 owners get.
 
pete zeugma said:
pete zeugma wrote:

amazing what answers you can find in a manual

btw, never format your card on a PC/Mac. Do it in camera, always.
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I wouldn't say NEVER format the card in your PC, but before you take any pictures, first format the card in the camera.
 
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