Linux for dummies - where to start

CAcreeks wrote:

Please stay away from Linux. You would not like it.
Yes, I like a computer that runs without needing to be a computer programmer to navigate and keep it up and running.
Continue to enjoy your multi-minute delays for download of new antivirus patterns, and so-called security updates with forced reboot on alternate Tuesdays.
Windows never forces a reboot, you are greatly misguided and I choose which updates to download and install on my schedule. Also no delays on any protection program downloads. They download seemlessly in the background.
 
RedFox88 wrote:
CAcreeks wrote:

Please stay away from Linux. You would not like it.
Yes, I like a computer that runs without needing to be a computer programmer to navigate and keep it up and running.
I have a computer like that! It runs Fedora 17 Linux--soon to be Fedora 18. It works wonderfully and I have yet to need to create my own program to get Fedora to run.

I compile sometimes to get development versions of software that is changing rapidly. Turns out that the Windows users of that same software have to compile it also if they want those development versions. Ditto for Mac users. It's just a lot easier to do that compiling on Linux.
Continue to enjoy your multi-minute delays for download of new antivirus patterns, and so-called security updates with forced reboot on alternate Tuesdays.
Windows never forces a reboot,
Never? Gee, when I update XP inside VirtualBox it often prompts for a reboot. I don't use a version of Windows that is newer since the only new Windows apps I need to run still run on XP.

You never, ever, need to reboot after updates in Windows? Not even for SPs? Hard to believe.

A couple of weeks ago I had to replace a hard drive in my daughter's Win7 laptop. That meant I had to also reinstall Windows to factory delivery status using the recovery disks made when it was purchased. It took about 4 hours to go through the 5 DVDs in the recovery set. It took me another hour or so to hunt down and remove all the crapware the vendor installed along with Windows. After Windows was then connected to my LAN, it found dozens of updates that took lots more time to download and install. It kept insisting that I "Don't shut down the computer until this operation is complete..." Yikes. The whole thing start to finish was over 7 hours.

Last month I had the main drive on my Linux box start spitting out error messages. The manufacturer's support sent me a new drive. It took me 40 minutes to install something like 1300 Fedora files. The installer was smart enough to get the newest version of all the software pieces from the network (smart is really cool but also really time saving). No updates necessary when it was finished. I went through the list of applications I had previously installed and those got downloaded and installed in another 20 minutes or so.

I gave the OS the mounting instructions for my "home" directory tree and bingo--all my settings were restored. Fortunately, Windows was in my home directory in virtual machines and it was installed instantly. The whole trip for a much more complex system than the laptop was under an hour and a half. Yup, we each like our OSes. I have yet to install an antivirus on my Linux boxes. I do occasionally run a rootkit detection program and have yet to find one. I am thoroughly firewalled.

Don
you are greatly misguided and I choose which updates to download and install on my schedule. Also no delays on any protection program downloads. They download seemlessly in the background.
 
RedFox88 wrote:
Doug J wrote:

I have an Intel i7 w7-64 box for my day-to-day computing. This one replaced a Q6600 Vista-32 box that today is basically dedicated to World Community Group (WCG) networked computing, while serving as a backup to the W7 box. Both are on a simple home network, mostly for WCG & file sharing.

I want to cut the cord with MS altogether for both PCs.
Why?
Personal choice, you pick what works for you.
Microsoft programs work. Linux is a crap shoot and has never gained popularity which says something about the product.
From what I've read, I'd hardly call it a crap shoot.
 
Don_Campbell wrote:
RedFox88 wrote:
CAcreeks wrote:

Please stay away from Linux. You would not like it.
Yes, I like a computer that runs without needing to be a computer programmer to navigate and keep it up and running.
I have a computer like that! It runs Fedora 17 Linux--soon to be Fedora 18. It works wonderfully and I have yet to need to create my own program to get Fedora to run.

I compile sometimes to get development versions of software that is changing rapidly. Turns out that the Windows users of that same software have to compile it also if they want those development versions. Ditto for Mac users. It's just a lot easier to do that compiling on Linux.
Continue to enjoy your multi-minute delays for download of new antivirus patterns, and so-called security updates with forced reboot on alternate Tuesdays.
Windows never forces a reboot,
Never? Gee, when I update XP inside VirtualBox it often prompts for a reboot. I don't use a version of Windows that is newer since the only new Windows apps I need to run still run on XP.

You never, ever, need to reboot after updates in Windows? Not even for SPs? Hard to believe.

A couple of weeks ago I had to replace a hard drive in my daughter's Win7 laptop. That meant I had to also reinstall Windows to factory delivery status using the recovery disks made when it was purchased. It took about 4 hours to go through the 5 DVDs in the recovery set. It took me another hour or so to hunt down and remove all the crapware the vendor installed along with Windows. After Windows was then connected to my LAN, it found dozens of updates that took lots more time to download and install. It kept insisting that I "Don't shut down the computer until this operation is complete..." Yikes. The whole thing start to finish was over 7 hours.

Last month I had the main drive on my Linux box start spitting out error messages. The manufacturer's support sent me a new drive. It took me 40 minutes to install something like 1300 Fedora files. The installer was smart enough to get the newest version of all the software pieces from the network (smart is really cool but also really time saving). No updates necessary when it was finished. I went through the list of applications I had previously installed and those got downloaded and installed in another 20 minutes or so.

I gave the OS the mounting instructions for my "home" directory tree and bingo--all my settings were restored. Fortunately, Windows was in my home directory in virtual machines and it was installed instantly. The whole trip for a much more complex system than the laptop was under an hour and a half. Yup, we each like our OSes. I have yet to install an antivirus on my Linux boxes. I do occasionally run a rootkit detection program and have yet to find one. I am thoroughly firewalled.

Don
you are greatly misguided and I choose which updates to download and install on my schedule. Also no delays on any protection program downloads. They download seemlessly in the background.
MS Patch Tuesday is fairly well known, a time for MS to provide mostly security updates for the various MS programs hackers have introduced exploits for. I run the updates routinely on my Vista & W7 PCs, the XP notebook gets its updates via our corporate internal network. All 3 generally require a reboot as part of the process, start to finish takes anywhere from 10-30 min., not too bad, one gets used to it after awhile.

It's interesting, of course, that the MS stuff is so exploited that it requires frequent patching, firewalls, several AV programs. The later also requiring updates, patches, etc.
 
Don_Campbell wrote:
Doug J wrote:

I have an Intel i7 w7-64 box for my day-to-day computing. This one replaced a Q6600 Vista-32 box that today is basically dedicated to World Community Group (WCG) networked computing, while serving as a backup to the W7 box. Both are on a simple home network, mostly for WCG & file sharing.

I’d like to move the Q6600 box to Linux, while retaining the MS stuff for now. Eventually, I want to cut the cord with MS altogether for both PCs. It’ll be tough to abandon Photoshop, but that decision is yet to come. In the short-term, I’d like to set up dual boot for this one, and bring in Office Libre, Open Office, etc.

I use an ATEN KVM switch so I can monitor & control the 2 PCs and my work notebook with a single keyboard, monitor & mouse. I don’t know how this will play with Linux.

The Q6600 PC is configured with 4 HDs, no issues with disk space for OS & programs:

1 – OS & programs

2 – Clone of #1 (cloned & tested monthly)

3 – Data

4 – Automatic daily backup of #3

Any suggestions on where to start & readings?
 
Doug J wrote:
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I'm glad that you like the photos, thanks :-)

It sounds like the best practice is to allocate a boot drive for Linux, and as you stated I can install Windows in VB on that drive. It's nice to be able allocate cores & memory, the CPU is a quad core and I have 4GB of RAM, so it should be enough. I think I'll start with that approach, figure out which drives to use, I can an external drive for backup if needed.
Well, others may dispute "best" practice. It's the practice that makes the future far easier to navigate if one really makes the switch. Using Windows from a VM means you aren't forced into rebooting to do something simple. VirtualBox comes in two flavors--an open source version and one that has useful extensions. The second is distributed by Oracle from virtualbox.org with an extension pack.

RAM: I currently have 16 GB RAM because it was so cheap around the holidays and because I wanted to give my wife's machine the 8GB that I was using before changing motherboards a couple of months ago. I gave her the i5 and 8GB and got myself the i7 and 16GB. RawTherapee with its floating point arithmetic is happiest with plenty of RAM. You will likely enjoy having at least 8GB at some point if you can find 4 that matches your current 4 well enough to coexist in the same machine. I got 16 GB for my new motherboard for $60 in early December. It was overkill but it was also cheap.

Devoting a full drive to Linux: In 16 years of using Linux as my main OS, I have discussed switching with a lot of folks who expressed interest but then approached the process so tentatively that they virtually guaranteed their failure in pulling it off. That's a choice but it is also a path of wheel-spinning and half-way measures that prevented them from actually doing what they thought that they intended. Your computer is fine for the project but as I said, having a drive devoted to Linux is way easier for maintaining the system and moving forward.

When I say allocating 2 cores to the VM, that allocation tells the guest OS inside the VM that it has 2 cores to work with. The host still has 4 cores and still uses them but shares them with the VM when called upon to do so. Most computing is light work for processors. The few exceptions in my life are 1) processing raw photos when I'm done setting my preferences in RawTherapee; 2) compiling a couple of apps that I follow the development of. With my i7 or the i5 I used before it those exceptions do not bring my machine to its knees--it is just busier than usual.

I do not keep VBox running most of the time because most of the time I don't use Windows. XP comes up in that VM in less than 15 seconds. My wife keeps her VBox Windows session running nearly all of the time since she prefers WordPerfect and uses it off and on all day long.

A prerequisite for a pleasant time making the Linux switch is the recognition that Linux is not Windows and it does not do things the "Windows way." That means a learning curve that may be different from what you might have expected. One thing that seems to be universally complained about by those who dabbled in Linux and then discarded it, is using the command line for some things. That generally is not forced nowadays but it turns out that it is really helpful for some things. Approach that as a learning experience and you will feel more confident about the internal workings of the software. Fight it and you may get exasperated.

Finally, choosing a popular distro means getting access to forums that are full of knowledgeable folks willing to help. It may actually be useful to explore those forums a little before making the final decision among candidate distros.

Good luck with the project!

Don
This thread has provided a wealth of great information and suggestions, I really appreciate everyone's contributions & help.
 
Don_Campbell wrote:
RedFox88 wrote:
Windows never forces a reboot,
Never? Gee, when I update XP inside VirtualBox it often prompts for a reboot. I don't use a version of Windows that is newer since the only new Windows apps I need to run still run on XP.

You never, ever, need to reboot after updates in Windows? Not even for SPs? Hard to believe.
Prompting and "forcing" a reboot are different things. It'll prompt but I'll "postpone 4 hours" then just shut my computer down when I would normally. So the user experience is not affected.
 
Doug J wrote:
you are greatly misguided and I choose which updates to download and install on my schedule. Also no delays on any protection program downloads. They download seemlessly in the background.
MS Patch Tuesday is fairly well known, a time for MS to provide mostly security updates for the various MS programs hackers have introduced exploits for. I run the updates routinely on my Vista & W7 PCs, the XP notebook gets its updates via our corporate internal network. All 3 generally require a reboot as part of the process, start to finish takes anywhere from 10-30 min., not too bad, one gets used to it after awhile.
I find that updates for Vista and Win7 come out early in the month, once a month. And I don't have my computer install automatically, I choose which updates to install and when to install them.
 
Don_Campbell wrote:

There are plenty of "getting started" articles kicked out by a google search. Distros that are favored by newbies are Ubuntu and Mint. Ubuntu defaults to a GUI that has been controversial and which isn't used by other distros. Mint is based on Ubuntu and has more standard GUI options. I prefer Fedora and have used it and its Red Hat Linux predecessor since RH 4 and 1997. Fedora does not come with "proprietary" software but there are numerous sites with "ideal setup" recipes for getting that software easily. Still, Mint seems to be the good way to start these days.

Don
I like KDE based distros, and a very nice Fedora "respin" that you may want to check out is Kororaa. Chris (the developer) has both KDE and Gnome downloads available.


Basically, it's Fedora with a very good selection of default software, with some extra repos like RPMFusion already enabled, and some metapackages to make it easier to install some of the extras like Adobe Flash Player.

Chris also installed the Jockey Device Driver Manager (like Ubuntu uses) to make it easier to install proprietary drivers (Nvidia, AMD, wireless, etc.) with a mouse click or two.

See more about it here:

https://kororaa.org/


Basically, if I wanted to use Fedora, I'd just use Kororaa instead, as the included software is the same software I'd normally use anyway, and it would save the trouble of enabling extra repos and install software I'd want to "tame" Fedora for my personal use.

Personally, I use Mepis 11 most of the time, and it uses a Debian Stable base. But, Debian Stable (currently "Squeeze") is getting to be a bit "long in the tooth" now, because it's been out for almost 2 years. That's one downside of using Debian Stable (new releases only come out around every 2 years). But on the other hand, it's solid as a rock.

If I wanted more "bleeding edge" software with a Fedora based distro, I'd use Kororaa (as I've been impressed with it, having installed it in VirtualBox for testing a while back).

Fedora is great in that you get newer versions of software frequently, thanks to a more aggressive release schedule; especially if you enable the RPMFusion repo. But, it can be difficult for new linux users. That's where a distro like Kororaa can help out, with a great default selection of software, extra repos already enabled, metapackages to help install some of the extras, and nice tools like Jockey for installation of proprietary drivers.
 
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Jim Cockfield wrote:

I like KDE based distros, and a very nice Fedora "respin" that you may want to check out is Kororaa. Chris (the developer) has both KDE and Gnome downloads available.
Good advice.
Personally, I use Mepis 11 most of the time, and it uses a Debian Stable base. But, Debian Stable (currently "Squeeze") is getting to be a bit "long in the tooth" now, because it's been out for almost 2 years. That's one downside of using Debian Stable (new releases only come out around every 2 years). But on the other hand, it's solid as a rock.
The next Debian release "wheezy" should be coming out soon, right? Squeeze was released in February 2011.

On a side note, I was surprised how the two major Linux Mint desktops resemble each other. MATE and Cinnamon have essentially the same layout. I guess Cinnamon looks snazzier.
 
RedFox88 wrote:

Prompting and "forcing" a reboot are different things. It'll prompt but I'll "postpone 4 hours" then just shut my computer down when I would normally. So the user experience is not affected.
I see what you mean. My apologies for choosing the wrong word.


Although why are we discussing Windows on a Linux thread?
 
CAcreeks wrote:
Jim Cockfield wrote:

I like KDE based distros, and a very nice Fedora "respin" that you may want to check out is Kororaa. Chris (the developer) has both KDE and Gnome downloads available.
Good advice.
Personally, I use Mepis 11 most of the time, and it uses a Debian Stable base. But, Debian Stable (currently "Squeeze") is getting to be a bit "long in the tooth" now, because it's been out for almost 2 years. That's one downside of using Debian Stable (new releases only come out around every 2 years). But on the other hand, it's solid as a rock.
The next Debian release "wheezy" should be coming out soon, right? Squeeze was released in February 2011.
Yes, Debian Wheezy (currently the "testing" version of Debian) has been frozen for a while now, with only bug fixes going in. I'd expect to see a final release in the near future (within the next few months at the latest).

But, Debian doesn't publish a "roadmap" or release schedule like some of the other major distros . IOW, they release it when it's ready, not sooner because of some release schedule that mandates a new release every xx months. ;-)

Warren (the developer of Mepis) has already released two Alphas for the upcoming Mepis 12 using a Debian Wheezy base; and we'll likely see more alphas, then betas, then release candidates once Wheezy goes stable.

Of course, you can download Debian Testing (Wheezy) directly from Debian, too (versus using a "respin" with extras included like Mepis).

Many users consider Debian Testing to be more stable than Ubuntu's production releases, since Ubuntu uses Debian Unstable (a.k.a., Sid) as a starting point for each of their newer releases.

There are pros and cons to any of them, and you have to weigh stability versus the need for newer (bleeding edge) software when selecting a distro.

For day to day use, I value stability more. I've been using Mepis for years now (starting with the 3.x releases), migrating to newer versions each time a new Debian Stable base is adopted. IOW, I like that it uses a Debian Stable base (so that I get security updates directly from the Debian repos it uses), while some of the community developers have extra repos with newer packages available.

But, if I wanted newer software more often, a distro using Debian Testing (currently Wheezy) would be a good option (as Debian Testing tends to be more stable than a "stable' Ubuntu release anyway).

And if you really want "bleeding edge", something like Kororaa would be a good bet, as it uses a Fedora base and they have a very aggressive release schedule . But, Ubuntu derivatives are not bad in that area either, thanks to lots of PPAs available that have newer software in them.
 
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Jim Cockfield wrote:
Don_Campbell wrote:

There are plenty of "getting started" articles kicked out by a google search. Distros that are favored by newbies are Ubuntu and Mint. Ubuntu defaults to a GUI that has been controversial and which isn't used by other distros. Mint is based on Ubuntu and has more standard GUI options. I prefer Fedora and have used it and its Red Hat Linux predecessor since RH 4 and 1997. Fedora does not come with "proprietary" software but there are numerous sites with "ideal setup" recipes for getting that software easily. Still, Mint seems to be the good way to start these days.

Don
I like KDE based distros, and a very nice Fedora "respin" that you may want to check out is Kororaa. Chris (the developer) has both KDE and Gnome downloads available.
Hi Jim,

I did look at Kororaa when you suggested it to me in another forum thread. I can see how it would make life easier for folks who want Fedora but also want the proprietary stuff one needs for a variety of useful things.

I used Red Hat Linux 4 when it was a boxed set of floppies up until RHL9 and then Fedora Core through Fedora 17 skipping a version now and then since support overlaps. They have gotten serious about not putting out broken stuff to the point of delaying F18 by 11 weeks due to some changes that went slower than they wanted through the bug fixing stage. Waiting is cool as far as I'm concerned. Dicey stuff is not so cool.

Because I've used Fedora and its predecessors for like 16 years now, I have already got RPM Fusion and other yum repos wired in. The current state of Fedora is to have automated upgrading work through an upgrade manager. Success in the past and Fedora's caution before this release suggests that this is likely to work quite smoothly. I also have a lot of experience unmounting my home directory and leaving the home partition out of the install process if I have to install from scratch. My backups store /etc and /home on a daily basis going back over a year. If I have to install from scratch it's a cinch to restore setups from the stored /etc and to simply remount the home partition at the /home mountpoint and have my personal setup running with all my data. If I forget something I go to mjmwired.net and use Mauriat's guide to restore some function lost.

Although Kororaa looks great, I think my upgrade will go smoother using FedUp, the new upgrade utility for Fedora. If not, then my old style of installing goes really fast and smooth and I am comfortable with it.

For a new user Kororaa might be the ticket in. My guess is that Mint is an even easier way in. People love Mepis but it seems tenuously dependent on one guy. I like Gnome 3 at this point because I have a whole slew of shell extensions that take away the worst of the absurdity of the Metro-like attempt to make a desktop gui like that of a cell phone. I've never warmed up to KDE although I have used KNOPPIX liveCDs and liveDVDs to rescue many a system--especially Windows systems--and I've always used Knopper's default KDE interface in doing so. I never go on a trip without a KNOPPIX flash drive in the laptop bag.

My wireless driver is in the kernel and has been for years (with Linux and old laptop gets new speed and spiffiness with each upgrade). Nvidia works so well with DKMS installing the driver that I am not looking for new automation there.

So basically I agree that Kororaa looks great for someone wanting to be on the edge gently. I've honed the sharp stuff off that edge over the years so I'm not in the market for newer even if slicker. At least not yet. Anyway, I did look at your suggestion the last time and gave it some thought and I will not hesitate if something starts making life more difficult under Fedora.

Regards,

Don





Basically, it's Fedora with a very good selection of default software, with some extra repos like RPMFusion already enabled, and some metapackages to make it easier to install some of the extras like Adobe Flash Player.

Chris also installed the Jockey Device Driver Manager (like Ubuntu uses) to make it easier to install proprietary drivers (Nvidia, AMD, wireless, etc.) with a mouse click or two.

See more about it here:

https://kororaa.org/

Basically, if I wanted to use Fedora, I'd just use Kororaa instead, as the included software is the same software I'd normally use anyway, and it would save the trouble of enabling extra repos and install software I'd want to "tame" Fedora for my personal use.

Personally, I use Mepis 11 most of the time, and it uses a Debian Stable base. But, Debian Stable (currently "Squeeze") is getting to be a bit "long in the tooth" now, because it's been out for almost 2 years. That's one downside of using Debian Stable (new releases only come out around every 2 years). But on the other hand, it's solid as a rock.

If I wanted more "bleeding edge" software with a Fedora based distro, I'd use Kororaa (as I've been impressed with it, having installed it in VirtualBox for testing a while back).

Fedora is great in that you get newer versions of software frequently, thanks to a more aggressive release schedule; especially if you enable the RPMFusion repo. But, it can be difficult for new linux users. That's where a distro like Kororaa can help out, with a great default selection of software, extra repos already enabled, metapackages to help install some of the extras, and nice tools like Jockey for installation of proprietary drivers.
 
RedFox88 wrote:
Doug J wrote:
you are greatly misguided and I choose which updates to download and install on my schedule. Also no delays on any protection program downloads. They download seemlessly in the background.
MS Patch Tuesday is fairly well known, a time for MS to provide mostly security updates for the various MS programs hackers have introduced exploits for. I run the updates routinely on my Vista & W7 PCs, the XP notebook gets its updates via our corporate internal network. All 3 generally require a reboot as part of the process, start to finish takes anywhere from 10-30 min., not too bad, one gets used to it after awhile.
I find that updates for Vista and Win7 come out early in the month, once a month. And I don't have my computer install automatically, I choose which updates to install and when to install them.
Whatever works for you and you're satisfied with. There have been good discussions comparing Linux & Windows in the past, no doubt these will continue and it's a good topic to discuss, debate and explore.

I started this thread to get some suggestions and recommendations for Linux. The posts, for the most part, have really been good from my perspective, both hardware & software.

Perhaps someone should start a Windows v. Linux thread, haven't seen one in awhile. Naturally we need to keep some photography in it :-)
 
Doug J wrote:
Perhaps someone should start a Windows v. Linux thread, haven't seen one in awhile. Naturally we need to keep some photography in it :-)
I could post an animated GIF of somebody beating a dead horse, but won't.

Now that I've discovered how easy it is to boot Linux from a USB thumb drive, I plan to try out new releases as they appear.

Especially Mepis, once Debian stable "wheezy" appears. Not sure that I care about the KDE vs Gnome controversy any longer, but it would be interesting to see what Jim uses.

I have access to SUSE (SLES 11.2) and like it a lot, but it is not sufficiently desktop-oriented to use at home.

As I said in another thread, Linux Mint Cinnamon and MATE seem functionally similar. Leading me to believe that many differences between Linux distros are fairly inconsequential.
 
Linux is about choice. So if one dislikes their desktop environment they can alter or choose one that suits their wants or needs. Digital capture of my Fedora 16 (Verne) log in screen displaying choices of desktops available. :-)

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Phil_MI wrote:

Linux is about choice. So if one dislikes their desktop environment they can alter or choose one that suits their wants or needs. Digital capture of my Fedora 16 (Verne) log in screen displaying choices of desktops available. :-)
It is a fascinating aberration of the give and take over OSes that choice is so frequently seized upon by the Windows advocates as a defect of Linux.

This is a quote from another DP forum recently:

"Seriously, whats the point of having 800 Linux distros ? Does every Linux user need his/her own distro ?"

Of course there are probably 6-8 major distributions and perhaps another 10 or so with a substantial if smaller following. But, when you consider the degree of customization possible it is also likely that there are millions of relatively customized distributions among those 16-18 versions.

It is also true, but ignored by those who seem terrified by choice, that those distributions choose from the same smaller list of kernels and mostly the same set of applications. It is a criticism without a real logical thrust. No one in the business world seems baffled by the choices of Linux distros to use in supporting their infrastructure.

Don
 
Don_Campbell wrote:
Phil_MI wrote:

Linux is about choice. So if one dislikes their desktop environment they can alter or choose one that suits their wants or needs. Digital capture of my Fedora 16 (Verne) log in screen displaying choices of desktops available. :-)

phil
It is a fascinating aberration of the give and take over OSes that choice is so frequently seized upon by the Windows advocates as a defect of Linux.

This is a quote from another DP forum recently:

"Seriously, whats the point of having 800 Linux distros ? Does every Linux user need his/her own distro ?"

Of course there are probably 6-8 major distributions and perhaps another 10 or so with a substantial if smaller following. But, when you consider the degree of customization possible it is also likely that there are millions of relatively customized distributions among those 16-18 versions.

It is also true, but ignored by those who seem terrified by choice, that those distributions choose from the same smaller list of kernels and mostly the same set of applications. It is a criticism without a real logical thrust. No one in the business world seems baffled by the choices of Linux distros to use in supporting their infrastructure.

Don
I was intimidated initially when first letting go of a familiar operating system and trying a new one but gradually overcame that "fear of the unknown" and quite happy using any operating system. Using a different operating system for the first time is like trying out different photo-editing software or camera, a bit of a learning curve and makes a good hobby too. :-)




phil
 
Doug J wrote:

I have an Intel i7 w7-64 box for my day-to-day computing. This one replaced a Q6600 Vista-32 box that today is basically dedicated to World Community Group (WCG) networked computing, while serving as a backup to the W7 box. Both are on a simple home network, mostly for WCG & file sharing.

I’d like to move the Q6600 box to Linux, while retaining the MS stuff for now. Eventually, I want to cut the cord with MS altogether for both PCs. It’ll be tough to abandon Photoshop, but that decision is yet to come. In the short-term, I’d like to set up dual boot for this one, and bring in Office Libre, Open Office, etc.

I use an ATEN KVM switch so I can monitor & control the 2 PCs and my work notebook with a single keyboard, monitor & mouse. I don’t know how this will play with Linux.

The Q6600 PC is configured with 4 HDs, no issues with disk space for OS & programs:

1 – OS & programs

2 – Clone of #1 (cloned & tested monthly)

3 – Data

4 – Automatic daily backup of #3

Any suggestions on where to start & readings?
 
Last night I popped a DVD of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy into my Linux Mint laptop, formerly a virus-riddled Windows XP machine. The movie came up and played. I got subtitles to appear beneath the wide-screen video. Great software.


So with GIMP and Aftershot, the only things I know Linux can't do are Quicken (not on Mac either!) and TurboTax. Movie editing is still an unknown. I had problems editing HD with OpenShot perhaps due to only 2GB memory.
Don_Campbell wrote:

http://www.linux.com/learn/docs/689416-weekend-project-linux-for-beginners


Carla Schroder is one of the better writers on the subject of Linux. This looks like a good article to start with in addition to what folks have written here.
 

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