Need help with lens purchase strategy

Syscrash · Jan 5, 2013

Hello fellow photo fanatics!

I have recently upgraded from a Canon powerzoom into an entry-level DSLR -- the Rebel 4ti -- which came bundled with the following lens:
Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II

Its a solid lens, covering the basics of what I need out of the box. But now I am now entering into the hell known as "what lens should I buy next?" I am not targeting professional grade, only ambitious amatuer. Here are my goals with this camera and my lens purchase strategy:

1. Only buy lenses that have a good chance of lasting until my next camera upgrade, possibly to a professional grade body
2. First, get a lens that addresses my normal shooting scnearios (aka without a tri-pod):
- Everyday, general shooting of people and places
- Mid-level zoom to cover outdoor shooting of sporting events and animal/landscape shots
- Some video recording
3. Progress into:
- In-door, low-light shooting, such as wedding receptions, chistmas day, etc.
- Portraits, including headshots
4. Then expand into more advanced shooting scenarios, such as:
- Macro
- Night-time
- Extreme distance shooting with tri-pod or mono-pole

(Please note that I plan to get a decent speedlight, one that can deflect and diffuse the flash, first to aid in my low-light shooting scenarios. Then also upgrade to a better one, for master slave scenarios.)

Here's my plan:
1. Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM : Regular, mid-level zoom lens for everyday shooting (aka My go-to lens), including sports, indoor concerts and occasional low-light shooting.
2. Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L USM: Everyday, in-door, low-light shooting scenarios, including portraits, wedding receptions, christmas morning, etc.
3. Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Telephoto Zoom: Distance zoom, for shooting sports, general landscapes, animals, etc - day and night shooting. Of course, I'll need to win the lottery first before buying this one. :-(

My questions are:
1. Is my head on straight as far as a strategy goes for my needs?
2. Are the options I have chosen good or should I be looking at something better? Really interested in whether or not my second lens should be the 35mm f/1.4L or 55mm f/1.2L lens given the scenarios I plan to shoot.
3. Since I am not planning a lot of movie shooting, I have not looked into STM lenses, but definitely want to get rid of the AF noise when using the bundled EF-S less (not STM or USM). I've read that USM focuses too quickly for quality movie making, which can jar the viewer from the clip. Whereas the STM option gives a slower, more exceptable effect when a movie changes focus. Since Im not making high-end movies (clips of kids romping around and such), should I worry at all about this phenomena?

Sorry for making you read a book AND thank you in advance for all your assistance!

Syscrash

photonius · Jan 5, 2013

Syscrash said:
Syscrash wrote:

Hello fellow photo fanatics!
I have recently upgraded from a Canon powerzoom into an entry-level DSLR -- the Rebel 4ti -- which came bundled with the following lens:
Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II

First suggestion:

Use this lens to learn, in particular about focal lengths, and which ones you are likely to use, and which ones you miss - before you buy anything else.

Syscrash said:
Its a solid lens, covering the basics of what I need out of the box. But now I am now entering into the hell known as "what lens should I buy next?" I am not targeting professional grade, only ambitious amatuer. Here are my goals with this camera and my lens purchase strategy:
1. Only buy lenses that have a good chance of lasting until my next camera upgrade, possibly to a professional grade body
2. First, get a lens that addresses my normal shooting scnearios (aka without a tri-pod):
- Everyday, general shooting of people and places
- Mid-level zoom to cover outdoor shooting of sporting events and animal/landscape shots
- Some video recording
3. Progress into:
- In-door, low-light shooting, such as wedding receptions, chistmas day, etc.
- Portraits, including headshots
4. Then expand into more advanced shooting scenarios, such as:
- Macro
- Night-time
- Extreme distance shooting with tri-pod or mono-pole
(Please note that I plan to get a decent speedlight, one that can deflect and diffuse the flash, first to aid in my low-light shooting scenarios. Then also upgrade to a better one, for master slave scenarios.)
Here's my plan:
1. Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM : Regular, mid-level zoom lens for everyday shooting (aka My go-to lens), including sports, indoor concerts and occasional low-light shooting.

This is a standard lens for FF bodies, lacks wide-angle on crop bodies, may not be the regular everyday lens you want.

normal lenses:

18-55 IS (you have it)

15-85 IS

17-55 IS f2.8

for video:

18-135mm STM

Syscrash said:
2. Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L USM: Everyday, in-door, low-light shooting scenarios, including portraits, wedding receptions, christmas morning, etc.

nice low light lens, not wide indoors, a bit wide for face sized portraits.

Syscrash said:
3. Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Telephoto Zoom: Distance zoom, for shooting sports, general landscapes, animals, etc - day and night shooting. Of course, I'll need to win the lottery first before buying this one. :-(

Fine lens. try it in the shop. It's heavy. the 70-200 f4 IS might do. Not very long for wild-life.

another lens to look at on the cheap: 55-250 IS

Syscrash said:
My questions are:
1. Is my head on straight as far as a strategy goes for my needs?
2. Are the options I have chosen good or should I be looking at something better? Really interested in whether or not my second lens should be the 35mm f/1.4L or 55mm f/1.2L lens given the scenarios I plan to shoot.
3. Since I am not planning a lot of movie shooting, I have not looked into STM lenses, but definitely want to get rid of the AF noise when using the bundled EF-S less (not STM or USM). I've read that USM focuses too quickly for quality movie making, which can jar the viewer from the clip. Whereas the STM option gives a slower, more exceptable effect when a movie changes focus. Since Im not making high-end movies (clips of kids romping around and such), should I worry at all about this phenomena?
Sorry for making you read a book AND thank you in advance for all your assistance!
Syscrash

amosf · Jan 5, 2013

It's always nice to have a plan.

I tend to just get a lens to do a job at a price I can afford. lol

Not sure about the 35 as a portrait. Might be a bit short, but a 30/1.4 style lens is a nice all round lower light lens. It gives a decent view angle on a crop camera.

Have you considered a 15-85 as a general purpose lens? 24mm is not that wide on a crop. Seems like you are buying lenses with the though of moving to a FF camera. Any particular reason for FF? I actually prefer the crop cameras as an armature for the weight. Lenses also tend to be lighter and cheaper for crop cameras. But if FF is the way you want to go, then fair enough.

Don't completely dismiss third party lenses. There are some good ones out there. If you hang around here you will hear about them

And yeah. Choosing the next lens to buy can be hell

Especially on a budget. I went for the Tamron 17-50 2.8 non-VC as an all round lens...

Klaus dk · Jan 5, 2013

Wait. You can do a lot with the 18-55, which, despite it's lowly price, is a good performer. Try it in the situations you mention and see how far it gets you. You may not need it, but I miss a wide angle option in your list.

Syscrash · Jan 5, 2013

amosf said:
Not sure about the 35 as a portrait. Might be a bit short, but a 30/1.4 style lens is a nice all round lower light lens. It gives a decent view angle on a crop camera.

Should I go with the 50mm instead?

amosf said:
Have you considered a 15-85 as a general purpose lens? 24mm is not that wide on a crop.

I was considering the 15-85, but I could not track down an option that had IS and USM. Since I will likely be "shooting from the hip", I was concerned about camera shake without a tripod. thus, went with the next midzoom lens that had these options.

amosf said:
Seems like you are buying lenses with the though of moving to a FF camera. Any particular reason for FF? I actually prefer the crop cameras as an armature for the weight. Lenses also tend to be lighter and cheaper for crop cameras. But if FF is the way you want to go, then fair enough.

Admittedly, I am so new to this level of photography that I don't really know where to start. I have attempted to review all sorts of options/suggestions and this is what I came up with. I guess I am going the EF route in the event I get into this more (which I think I will a couple of years from now). Will still likely have a smaller camera like the 4ti for convenience, but switch it up for serious picture taking.

amosf said:
Don't completely dismiss third party lenses. There are some good ones out there. If you hang around here you will hear about them

Not trying to be a Canon only snob, just want to make sure to maintain top-level compatibility and quality. Im a computer need by trade, and I deal with compatibility issues all the time when trying to mix and match manufacturers.

amosf said:
And yeah. Choosing the next lens to buy can be hell Especially on a budget. I went for the Tamron 17-50 2.8 non-VC as an all round lens...

Thanks for the Tamron suggestion. I will check it out!

And thanks so much for your reply!

Syscrash · Jan 5, 2013

photonius said:
photonius said:

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II

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First suggestion:

Use this lens to learn, in particular about focal lengths, and which ones you are likely to use, and which ones you miss - before you buy anything else.

Agreed- need all the experience I can get and this is a good basic lens to do it with!

photonius said:
photonius said:

1. Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM : Regular, mid-level zoom lens for everyday shooting (aka My go-to lens), including sports, indoor concerts and occasional low-light shooting.

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This is a standard lens for FF bodies, lacks wide-angle on crop bodies, may not be the regular everyday lens you want.

Admittedly, not sure how wide-angle my needs are going to be based on my current shooting needs. But I do appreciate the thoughts!

photonius said:
normal lenses:

18-55 IS (you have it)

Yes, and its a noisy little bugger!

Just doesn't have the range I need.

photonius said:
15-85 IS

Would be concerned about the noise factor here, unless there is a USM option. But i couldn't find one in my searches.

photonius said:
17-55 IS f2.8

Same comment as before.

photonius said:
for video:

18-135mm STM

I considered this one, because it also has IS. But the EF-S concerns me in that I will be dropping $$$ on a lens that I probably cannot use on my next upgrade (if I go the FF route).

photonius said:
photonius said:

2. Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L USM: Everyday, in-door, low-light shooting scenarios, including portraits, wedding receptions, christmas morning, etc.

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nice low light lens, not wide indoors, a bit wide for face sized portraits.

Should I go with the 50mm option?

photonius said:
photonius said:

3. Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Telephoto Zoom: Distance zoom, for shooting sports, general landscapes, animals, etc - day and night shooting. Of course, I'll need to win the lottery first before buying this one. :-(

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Fine lens. try it in the shop. It's heavy. the 70-200 f4 IS might do. Not very long for wild-life.

another lens to look at on the cheap: 55-250 IS

Im a bigger fellow, 6'4" and such, so weight is not a huge deal for me - especially since I will be likely toting a monopole for it. But thanks for the thoughts!

rebel99 · Jan 5, 2013

way back, i started with 5D and 24-105mm f4L IS and i truly understood the IQ value of "L" lenses and i built my lens collection around that, i won't regret a thing! now, as far as 3rd party jellybean variety lenses are concerned, i stay away from them as far as i can and let " the best bang for the buck" crowd go there, because sometimes the difference between an ok IQ and and an excellent IQ may not be much but in serious photography, i go for that marginal difference that makes a photo shine, but that is me, your mileage may differ!

cheerz.

Syscrash · Jan 5, 2013

Klaus dk said:
Klaus dk wrote:

Wait. You can do a lot with the 18-55, which, despite it's lowly price, is a good performer. Try it in the situations you mention and see how far it gets you. You may not need it, but I miss a wide angle option in your list.

Definitely not going away from the 18-55. It has done very well for most of my shooting needs, and I will use it for a lot of my shooting situations (outside of video taking, as its AF is REALLY noisy).

But its lowlight shooting could be better (will be getting a speedlight to compensate) and its range is not where I need it for sporting and school events, where I need to shoot my little munchkins from a distance. Would like to be able to crawl up their noses from the stands! Couple that with a need to get a lens with quieter AF, i was looking for the next range level up for out of the house shooting scenarios.

Thanks a million for the reply!

Syscrash · Jan 5, 2013

rebel99 said:
rebel99 wrote:

way back, i started with 5D and 24-105mm f4L IS and i truly understood the IQ value of "L" lenses and i built my lens collection around that, i won't regret a thing! now, as far as 3rd party jellybean variety lenses are concerned, i stay away from them as far as i can and let " the best bang for the buck" crowd go there, because sometimes the difference between an ok IQ and and an excellent IQ may not be much but in serious photography, i go for that marginal difference that makes a photo shine, but that is me, your mileage may differ!

cheerz.

That's kinda why I am sticking with Canon L lens as well, along with doing my best to maintain compatibility with the next level body upgrade. Working in the computer industry, I completely appreciate sticking with the same vendor vs mixing/matching budget conscious parts - as that often leaves you fighting little bugs or missing a feature.

So, if my bank crash!

(too soon for that joke yet?) :-(

jayboo · Jan 5, 2013

Syscrash said:
Syscrash wrote:

Syscrash said:

Have you considered a 15-85 as a general purpose lens? 24mm is not that wide on a crop.

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I was considering the 15-85, but I could not track down an option that had IS and USM. Since I will likely be "shooting from the hip", I was concerned about camera shake without a tripod. thus, went with the next midzoom lens that had these options.

The nifty fifty - canon ef 50mm 1.8 is a great prime starter - perfect for those low light situations and available so cheaply, and the Canon ef-s 15-85 has IS and is USM.

Jayboo

rebel99 · Jan 5, 2013

Syscrash said:
Syscrash wrote:

Syscrash said:

rebel99 wrote:

way back, i started with 5D and 24-105mm f4L IS and i truly understood the IQ value of "L" lenses and i built my lens collection around that, i won't regret a thing! now, as far as 3rd party jellybean variety lenses are concerned, i stay away from them as far as i can and let " the best bang for the buck" crowd go there, because sometimes the difference between an ok IQ and and an excellent IQ may not be much but in serious photography, i go for that marginal difference that makes a photo shine, but that is me, your mileage may differ!

cheerz.

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That's kinda why I am sticking with Canon L lens as well, along with doing my best to maintain compatibility with the next level body upgrade. Working in the computer industry, I completely appreciate sticking with the same vendor vs mixing/matching budget conscious parts - as that often leaves you fighting little bugs or missing a feature.

So, if my bank crash!

(too soon for that joke yet?) :-(

i always plan getting my next lens way in advance until i have thought out all aspects and purchasing of that particular lens makes any sense to me and then i go for it! for example, a few months ago, i purchase the zeiss 100mm f2 planar makro and the 21mm f2.8 distagon, wow, what lenses. especially the 100mm one. i remember the 1st time i took a portrait shot of my nephew i could not believe my eyes how those shots turned out, they were simply amazing, better than all my "L" lenses. i hope you get a chance someday to use one, you'll know what i am talking about!

well, i better check my bank, hope it hasn't crashed yet

you got me thinking!

cheerz.

The Mad Kiwi · Jan 5, 2013

Syscrash said:
Syscrash wrote:
I considered this one, because it also has IS. But the EF-S concerns me in that I will be dropping $$$ on a lens that I probably cannot use on my next upgrade (if I go the FF route).

Buy lenses for the body you have now. You can always resell them if you move to full frame. I moved to full frame and sold my 3 year old 17-55 2.8 and got $100 less than the new price back. $100 for 3 years use of a great lens is a bargain.

The 17-55mm 2.8 is a fantastic lens. If I was using a crop again it'd be the first lens I'd get. Then the 70-200mm 2.8. With those 2 lenses you're covered.

photonius · Jan 6, 2013

The Mad Kiwi said:
The Mad Kiwi wrote:

The Mad Kiwi said:

Syscrash wrote:
I considered this one, because it also has IS. But the EF-S concerns me in that I will be dropping $$$ on a lens that I probably cannot use on my next upgrade (if I go the FF route).

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Buy lenses for the body you have now. You can always resell them if you move to full frame. I moved to full frame and sold my 3 year old 17-55 2.8 and got $100 less than the new price back. $100 for 3 years use of a great lens is a bargain.

The 17-55mm 2.8 is a fantastic lens. If I was using a crop again it'd be the first lens I'd get. Then the 70-200mm 2.8. With those 2 lenses you're covered.

Yes, I tend to agree with that in the wide-angle range (that's where you mostly get EF-S lenses anyway). For tele, L is fine both on crop and FF (e.g. the 70-200 series lenses).

there is no point in buying a 24-105 just because it's an L, but otherwise restricts your photography, if it's not the right focal length for your shooting.

photonius · Jan 6, 2013

Syscrash said:
Syscrash wrote:

Syscrash said:

Not sure about the 35 as a portrait. Might be a bit short, but a 30/1.4 style lens is a nice all round lower light lens. It gives a decent view angle on a crop camera.

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Should I go with the 50mm instead?

Syscrash said:

Have you considered a 15-85 as a general purpose lens? 24mm is not that wide on a crop.

Click to expand...

I was considering the 15-85, but I could not track down an option that had IS and USM. Since I will likely be "shooting from the hip", I was concerned about camera shake without a tripod. thus, went with the next midzoom lens that had these options.

To be honest, I don't know where you are looking. This information is available on the Canon web sites, and also on the lens test web sites (www.photozone.de, slrgear.com, the digital picture, lenstip, etc.)

Syscrash said:
Syscrash said:

Seems like you are buying lenses with the though of moving to a FF camera. Any particular reason for FF? I actually prefer the crop cameras as an armature for the weight. Lenses also tend to be lighter and cheaper for crop cameras. But if FF is the way you want to go, then fair enough.

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Admittedly, I am so new to this level of photography that I don't really know where to start. I have attempted to review all sorts of options/suggestions and this is what I came up with. I guess I am going the EF route in the event I get into this more (which I think I will a couple of years from now). Will still likely have a smaller camera like the 4ti for convenience, but switch it up for serious picture taking.

Syscrash said:

Don't completely dismiss third party lenses. There are some good ones out there. If you hang around here you will hear about them

Click to expand...

Not trying to be a Canon only snob, just want to make sure to maintain top-level compatibility and quality. Im a computer need by trade, and I deal with compatibility issues all the time when trying to mix and match manufacturers.

Syscrash said:

And yeah. Choosing the next lens to buy can be hell Especially on a budget. I went for the Tamron 17-50 2.8 non-VC as an all round lens...

Click to expand...

Thanks for the Tamron suggestion. I will check it out!

And thanks so much for your reply!

Syscrash · Jan 6, 2013

photonius said:
To be honest, I don't know where you are looking. This information is available on the Canon web sites, and also on the lens test web sites (www.photozone.de, slrgear.com, the digital picture, lenstip, etc.)

The only option I could find in a nonEF option, only EF-S, which I prefer to avoid if possible. If you have any EF option you would like to suggest, please shoot it my way!

MAC · Jan 6, 2013

Syscrash said:
Syscrash wrote:

Syscrash said:

To be honest, I don't know where you are looking. This information is available on the Canon web sites, and also on the lens test web sites (www.photozone.de, slrgear.com, the digital picture, lenstip, etc.)

Click to expand...

The only option I could find in a nonEF option, only EF-S, which I prefer to avoid if possible. If you have any EF option you would like to suggest, please shoot it my way!

don't go 24-105, it is not that good of a ff lens.

70-200 II is a beast and expensive

your T4i will be a valuable second camera to you someday

stay light weight

practice with 18-55 IS - a good lens.

The two lenses I'd get would be:

1st - 100L

2nd - new 35 F2 IS.

get use to these first. They will be forever lenses.

YMMV

good luck!

hesbehindyou · Jan 6, 2013

Syscrash said:
Syscrash wrote:

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II
1. Only buy lenses that have a good chance of lasting until my next camera upgrade, possibly to a professional grade body

You've essentially got two choices, EF lenses compatible with all Canon DSLRs, or EF-S lenses that are compatible only with Canon's APS-C cameras (i.e. anything with a name that's a number of 7 or more - anything less than 7, eg 6D, is a full frame camera).

Syscrash said:
2. First, get a lens that addresses my normal shooting scnearios (aka without a tri-pod):
- Everyday, general shooting of people and places
- Mid-level zoom to cover outdoor shooting of sporting events and animal/landscape shots
- Some video recording

Everyday general shooting means zoom. You've got the 18-55. Alternatives will not be significantly sharper - the 18-55 has decent image quality. Instead you get either a greater zoom range (e.g. 18-135, 15-85) or a wider aperture (17-55, off brand 1x-50's).

On a crop.APS-C camera I'd be inclined to go for the convenience of a greater zoom range and get a fast prime for blurring backgrounds/very low light. Delay purchase until you know whether you will make more use of the wider end (go 15-85) or the longer end (18-135).

Syscrash said:
3. Progress into:
- In-door, low-light shooting, such as wedding receptions, chistmas day, etc.
- Portraits, including headshots

Indoor, low light, wedding receptions - this is what the flash is for (an f2.8 lens will still need some help indoors... or very high ISOs) so no particular need for a fast (ie large aperture) lens... but it helps.

A fast prime can be good - the 50 1.8 is cheap as chips, though often too long on a crop camera. If you had a full frame camera the 70-200 f2.8 would see a lot of use.

Syscrash said:
4. Then expand into more advanced shooting scenarios, such as:
- Macro

If you're considering going full frame at some point the 100 f2.8 USM is the logical choice. 3 versions available: the original and inferior non-USM version, the incredibly good USM version and the latest IS USM version. Either of the last two are excellent.

Syscrash said:
- Night-time

If shooting stars a fast (ie large aperture) lens is good.

Syscrash said:
- Extreme distance shooting with tri-pod or mono-pole

Haze in the air and heat haze mean extreme distance shots may not be very sharp. Not a problem if you're shooting a vista with a wide angle lens but annoying if using a long lens. Note for choosing a tripod for this sort of stuff: get a heavy one that can take a lot of weight and the beefiest head you can afford.

Syscrash said:
(Please note that I plan to get a decent speedlight, one that can deflect and diffuse the flash, first to aid in my low-light shooting scenarios. Then also upgrade to a better one, for master slave scenarios.)

Awesome. Flash makes your shots look great when you've learnt how to stop it making your shots look awful ;-)

Syscrash said:
Here's my plan:
1. Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM : Regular, mid-level zoom lens for everyday shooting (aka My go-to lens), including sports, indoor concerts and occasional low-light shooting.

24 gives too narrow a field of view on a crop. Solution? Keep the 18-55 handy.

Syscrash said:
2. Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L USM: Everyday, in-door, low-light shooting scenarios, including portraits, wedding receptions, christmas morning, etc.

Experiment with your zoom lens until you know what focal length best suits your needs, though 35 will undoubtedly be a better choice than 50mm.

Syscrash said:
3. Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Telephoto Zoom: Distance zoom, for shooting sports, general landscapes, animals, etc - day and night shooting. Of course, I'll need to win the lottery first before buying this one. :-(

Best lens in its class. Consider also the 55-250 (good image quality, cheap so use up funds that would go towards 70-200, very light and compact so retains a role when you've got the large and heavy 70-200). Instead of the 55-250 you may also consider the 70-200 f4 (both with and without IS) and the 70-300 non-L and L lenses. Tamron also make a reasonably well regarded 70-300 VC (VC = Canon's IS)

Syscrash said:
My questions are:
1. Is my head on straight as far as a strategy goes for my needs?

Assuming you're going to move to full frame soon then yes. If you're not then consider substituting the 24-105 for the 15-85 or 18-135.

Syscrash said:
2. Are the options I have chosen good or should I be looking at something better? Really interested in whether or not my second lens should be the 35mm f/1.4L or 55mm f/1.2L lens given the scenarios I plan to shoot.

You will have the answer when you've used your kit lens for a bit and found which focal lengths you use most for the type of shots you want a prime for.

Syscrash said:
3. Since I am not planning a lot of movie shooting, I have not looked into STM lenses, but definitely want to get rid of the AF noise when using the bundled EF-S less (not STM or USM). I've read that USM focuses too quickly for quality movie making, which can jar the viewer from the clip. Whereas the STM option gives a slower, more exceptable effect when a movie changes focus. Since Im not making high-end movies (clips of kids romping around and such), should I worry at all about this phenomena?

STM is there purely because it's quieter. The talk of focusing slower so the viewer isn't jarred is nonsense: STM is slower than USM but faster than 'normal' focusing motors and normal focusing motors still focus pretty quick! Note the 18-135 STM is reputed to be sharper than it's non-STM 18-135 counterpart so the lens may be worth the premium it commands.

Syscrash said:
Sorry for making you read a book AND thank you in advance for all your assistance!

Happy to help.

offshore13 · Jan 7, 2013

MAC said:
MAC wrote:

MAC said:

Syscrash wrote:

MAC said:

To be honest, I don't know where you are looking. This information is available on the Canon web sites, and also on the lens test web sites (www.photozone.de, slrgear.com, the digital picture, lenstip, etc.)

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The only option I could find in a nonEF option, only EF-S, which I prefer to avoid if possible. If you have any EF option you would like to suggest, please shoot it my way!

Click to expand...

don't go 24-105, it is not that good of a ff lens.

70-200 II is a beast and expensive

your T4i will be a valuable second camera to you someday

stay light weight

practice with 18-55 IS - a good lens.

The two lenses I'd get would be:

1st - 100L

2nd - new 35 F2 IS.

get use to these first. They will be forever lenses.

YMMV

good luck!

+1

Agree with this one, my plan also, I'm on #2 already. Waiting that to be available here in the Philippines.

Me just added a 10-22 for UWA

photonius · Jan 7, 2013

Syscrash said:
Syscrash wrote:

Syscrash said:

To be honest, I don't know where you are looking. This information is available on the Canon web sites, and also on the lens test web sites (www.photozone.de, slrgear.com, the digital picture, lenstip, etc.)

Click to expand...

The only option I could find in a nonEF option, only EF-S, which I prefer to avoid if possible. If you have any EF option you would like to suggest, please shoot it my way!

There are only EF and EF-S lenses, but I was refering to IS and USM features.

No matter which section you go here:

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www.canon.co.uk

it clearly states if it has USM or IS etc.

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