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Listing the lenses made is really useless without either personal experience/recommendation for one of them or what is different +- of each. Have you used all 3 versions and which did -you- like and why?Juergen wrote:
Yes, there are:Stacey_K wrote:
Are there different versions of the 80-200 and which do you have that you like?
80-200/2.8 D ED MK II (push-pull)
80-200/2.8 D ED Dual Rings MK III
AF-S 80-200/2.8D IF-ED
You don't get it ... =:-(Stacey_K wrote:
Listing the lenses made is really useless without either personal experience/recommendation for one of them or what is different +- of each. Have you used all 3 versions and which did -you- like and why?Juergen wrote:
Yes, there are:Stacey_K wrote:
Are there different versions of the 80-200 and which do you have that you like?
80-200/2.8 D ED MK II (push-pull)
80-200/2.8 D ED Dual Rings MK III
AF-S 80-200/2.8D IF-ED
Stacey_K wrote:
Right now I am using a D7000 and probably will get an FX body in the future. I picked up a 180mm F2.8D and love it. Just curious from long time Nikon shooters are their any other AFD lenses I should consider?
TIA
Stacey_K wrote:
Giovanni_1968 wrote:
I have almost all D lenses, just one AF-S and some Ai and pre Ai, I love the D ones, they are not rocket fast if not built in motor but, for my kind of shooting (mostly family as you can see from my flickr) it's ok, I have the 50f1.4 which is lovely, wonderful bokeh and very lightweight, the 35-70f2.8 is very well built, the zoom mechanism is a bit weird but you get used to it, the rotating front lens might be a problem if you use polarizer but overall is a very good lens, sharp, solid and at both 35 and 50mm can rival with primes, I have the 80-200 which is simply lovely, warm, wonderful bokeh and fast enough on a semi pro body like my D200 based Fuji S5, portrait wise it is stunning as well as my only other D lens, the 300F4, same as above, fast enough, solid and wonderful bokeh.
If you can find used ones often they are good deals even though not cheap but they last a life long, my dream lenses are the 85f1.4 which I only used once and the 28-70 which I never used but kinda fetish...
The point is which are worth looking at, and which should be avoided. There are some stinkers and some that really shine.Juergen wrote:
You don't get it ... =:-(Stacey_K wrote:
Listing the lenses made is really useless without either personal experience/recommendation for one of them or what is different +- of each. Have you used all 3 versions and which did -you- like and why?Juergen wrote:
Yes, there are:Stacey_K wrote:
Are there different versions of the 80-200 and which do you have that you like?
80-200/2.8 D ED MK II (push-pull)
80-200/2.8 D ED Dual Rings MK III
AF-S 80-200/2.8D IF-ED
It doesn't matter what _I_ prefer - what do YOU prefer?
Those in the know avoid the non-D version when it is inferior, such as the 28mm F2.8 AF which has one less element than the 28mm F2.8 AFD.Push-pull or two-ring?
If it's push-pull then 80-200/2.8 D ED MK II is your only choice.
If it's two-ring you have to decide if you prefer no-built-in focus motor - then it's 80-200/2.8 D ED Dual Rings MK III.
Of you prefer built-in focus motor - then it's AF-S 80-200/2.8D IF-ED.
YES, It's THAT simple ...
Btw., those in-the-know who want to buy cheap get the non-D version ...
Stacey_K wrote:
On the 85 f1.4, how does the focus ring on this model work? Do you have to "switch" something to touch up the focus?
All those non-afs versions have the same optics. And both the non-afs and the afs versions is worth looking at if you are looking for a 80-200mm/2.8.Leif Goodwin wrote:
The point is which are worth looking at, and which should be avoided. There are some stinkers and some that really shine.Juergen wrote:
You don't get it ... =:-(Stacey_K wrote:
Listing the lenses made is really useless without either personal experience/recommendation for one of them or what is different +- of each. Have you used all 3 versions and which did -you- like and why?Juergen wrote:
Yes, there are:Stacey_K wrote:
Are there different versions of the 80-200 and which do you have that you like?
80-200/2.8 D ED MK II (push-pull)
80-200/2.8 D ED Dual Rings MK III
AF-S 80-200/2.8D IF-ED
It doesn't matter what _I_ prefer - what do YOU prefer?
There is some useful info about Nikon's 28mm primes here.Leif Goodwin wrote:
Those in the know avoid the non-D version when it is inferior, such as the 28mm F2.8 AF which has one less element than the 28mm F2.8 AFD.
You don't get it, too ...Leif Goodwin wrote:
The point is which are worth looking at, and which should be avoided. There are some stinkers and some that really shine.
We're not talking about the AF 28/2.8 lenses - we're talking about the AF 80-200/2.8 zooms where there are only two optical designs: The AF-S - and all the rest. Those-in-the-know know that ...Those in the know avoid the non-D version when it is inferior, such as the 28mm F2.8 AF which has one less element than the 28mm F2.8 AFD.
Quite a bit better than a poor man's substitute, you made a wise and economical choice and ended up with higher quality optics than you would have otherwise had in a high-end 2.8 zoom.67GP wrote:
Your question is not nonsense.
I own 180 2.8 and owned 85 1.4 (Stolen a few months ago.) They are both great lenses. I bought them used for a total of less than $1300. This was a sort of poor mans substitue for a more expensive zoom. I will probably buy another used 85 1.4 but I am waiting a little to decide. I use(d) both lenses on FX and DX(my D300 was also stolen).
The problem with that site is that after visiting I feel so dirty that I need to take a shower.sd40 wrote:
There is some useful info about Nikon's 28mm primes here.Leif Goodwin wrote:
Those in the know avoid the non-D version when it is inferior, such as the 28mm F2.8 AF which has one less element than the 28mm F2.8 AFD.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/28mm-f28-afd.htm
Yup. Newer lenses are not always better, or might be, or might not be ...If you're considering one of them, proceed carefully. If I understand it correctly, the well-regarded 28mm f/2.8 AIS has eight elements. The 28mm f/2.8 AF (perhaps early versions only?) had five elements and was developed from the cheap 28mm Series E lens, not the AIS version. The 28mm f/2.8 AF-D was a slight upgrade of the AF and had six elements.
I hated the 28mm F2.8 AFD. The 28mm F2.8 AIS is much better, albeit mine has older coatings.I owned the AF-D and was disappointed in its lack of sharpness and contrast. I have been much more pleased with the 20mm and 24mm AF-D lenses. Perhaps the new 28mm G version fills the gap in the lineup left by the AF-D predecessor. But with both a 16-35 and 28-105 performing nicely at 28mm, I am not highly motivated to spring for it.
No you don't get it. I think it is a reasonable question. Which AFD lenses are noteworthy, and which not. I find the answers of use.Juergen wrote:
You don't get it, too ...Leif Goodwin wrote:
The point is which are worth looking at, and which should be avoided. There are some stinkers and some that really shine.
Your post was ambiguous.What use, what camera, what final output, what budget ...
We're not talking about the AF 28/2.8 lenses - we're talking about the AF 80-200/2.8 zooms where there are only two optical designs: The AF-S - and all the rest. Those-in-the-know know that ...Those in the know avoid the non-D version when it is inferior, such as the 28mm F2.8 AF which has one less element than the 28mm F2.8 AFD.
So those-in-the-know's budget tip is the non-D AF 80-200/2.8.
Juergen wrote:
You don't get it, too ...Leif Goodwin wrote:
The point is which are worth looking at, and which should be avoided. There are some stinkers and some that really shine.
What use, what camera, what final output, what budget ...
I had the 80-200/2.8 D ED MK II (push-pull) long ago. The most important thing to know about it is that it does not have a tripod foot. When it was new, Kirk (I think it was them) made an elaborate mount for it. It was like a set of telescope rings with a bar connecting them. This was the only effective way to use this lens with a tripod. The lense was too long and heavy to use the camera tripod mount. I would not recommend buying this lens unless the seller includes the Kirk mount.Juergen wrote:
Yes, there are:Stacey_K wrote:
Are there different versions of the 80-200 and which do you have that you like?
80-200/2.8 D ED MK II (push-pull)
80-200/2.8 D ED Dual Rings MK III
AF-S 80-200/2.8D IF-ED
Leif Goodwin wrote:
The problem with that site is that after visiting I feel so dirty that I need to take a shower.sd40 wrote:
There is some useful info about Nikon's 28mm primes here.Leif Goodwin wrote:
Those in the know avoid the non-D version when it is inferior, such as the 28mm F2.8 AF which has one less element than the 28mm F2.8 AFD.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/28mm-f28-afd.htm
Yup. Newer lenses are not always better, or might be, or might not be ...If you're considering one of them, proceed carefully. If I understand it correctly, the well-regarded 28mm f/2.8 AIS has eight elements. The 28mm f/2.8 AF (perhaps early versions only?) had five elements and was developed from the cheap 28mm Series E lens, not the AIS version. The 28mm f/2.8 AF-D was a slight upgrade of the AF and had six elements.
I hated the 28mm F2.8 AFD. The 28mm F2.8 AIS is much better, albeit mine has older coatings.I owned the AF-D and was disappointed in its lack of sharpness and contrast. I have been much more pleased with the 20mm and 24mm AF-D lenses. Perhaps the new 28mm G version fills the gap in the lineup left by the AF-D predecessor. But with both a 16-35 and 28-105 performing nicely at 28mm, I am not highly motivated to spring for it.