HS30 First impressions.

PAUL TILL wrote:

Sorry been away,
Don't be. Nobody cares.
everyone seems to be going skiing so I'm too and frowning the Airport.
Yes holidays are great. Pity you are working.
I've said before in Joms threads that I have tried lots of HS30's out in the shops but they're always fixed down with an anti theft chord you don't really get the feel for them. ALL the ones I've tried feel the same as this one so I'm guessing the fanboys are just sticking up for their camera.

Here's a short video that might show what I'm talking about. It would have been more helpful if I had some more 50g pouches though, I only have 5 giving a total of 250g.

Paul.

 
PAUL TILL wrote:

Sorry been away, everyone seems to be going skiing so I'm too and frowning the Airport.

I've said before in Joms threads that I have tried lots of HS30's out in the shops but they're always fixed down with an anti theft chord you don't really get the feel for them. ALL the ones I've tried feel the same as this one so I'm guessing the fanboys are just sticking up for their camera.

Here's a short video that might show what I'm talking about. It would have been more helpful if I had some more 50g pouches though, I only have 5 giving a total of 250g.

Paul.

Have you considered trying another brand of tobacco for that test?
 
Kim Letkeman wrote:
tman1991 wrote:

I think you have a bad one then. I have used 2 30's, mine and another.. Both zoom fine.

Your statements how bad the HS30 is just turn off people from getting this great cam.
They won't. Paul can be hard on cameras at first. Let's see what happens as he starts to use it. The real problem is that he also owns the X-S1.
 
Kim Letkeman wrote:
tman1991 wrote:

I think you have a bad one then. I have used 2 30's, mine and another.. Both zoom fine.

Your statements how bad the HS30 is just turn off people from getting this great cam.
They won't. Paul can be hard on cameras at first. Let's see what happens as he starts to use it. The real problem is that he also owns the X-S1.
 
Paul, please don't take me wrong, I am genuinely wondering what an XS1 owner looks for in the HS30 that he/she cannot get from the XS1 (and is worth the extra expense).

I always appreciate your frank reviews of new equipment and look fwd to your answer on this one.

Happy New Year
 
Sunshine_boy wrote:

Paul, please don't take me wrong, I am genuinely wondering what an XS1 owner looks for in the HS30 that he/she cannot get from the XS1 (and is worth the extra expense).

I always appreciate your frank reviews of new equipment and look fwd to your answer on this one.

Happy New Year
 
When I bought my HS20, the zoom on that was quite stiff so I kept zooming backwards and forwards over a period of 2 weeks and it ended up quite smooth. I have just bought the XS 1 and that is what all the Fuji bridge cameras should be like as regards the smoothness of the zoom and no, I don't have any lens creep or sag.
 
Billx08 wrote:
Midwest wrote:
PAUL TILL wrote:

Sorry been away, everyone seems to be going skiing so I'm too and frowning the Airport.

I've said before in Joms threads that I have tried lots of HS30's out in the shops but they're always fixed down with an anti theft chord you don't really get the feel for them. ALL the ones I've tried feel the same as this one so I'm guessing the fanboys are just sticking up for their camera.

Here's a short video that might show what I'm talking about. It would have been more helpful if I had some more 50g pouches though, I only have 5 giving a total of 250g.

Paul.

Oh my. That does look nasty.
Really? I beg to disagree. I've tried pushing down on extended lenses (HS10, HS20EXF, S100fs and S200EXR) using only light pressure using one finger, and no weight from additional pouches. I didn't measure the necessary force needed to collapse the lens barrel, but its pretty clear that only the lightest touch is needed to push down the S100 and S200 barrels. Once they get started, there's virtually no resistance at all. The HS10 and HS20EXR require more pressure, which in my estimation is from 2 to 3 times more force than what is needed for the S100 and S200EXR. I doubt that the HS30EXR is much different than the HS20EXR or the HS10. Anyway, what's wrong with a lens barrel that won't collapse under its own weight, or even after adding several of Paul's pouches? Lens creep is only a problem if the lens zooms by its own weight to another focal length while using or holding it, and if it doesn't creep when it's held vertically (the worst case orientation), this is just a problem for those gullible enough to swallow the bait from someone engaging in childish character camera assassination.

I'm surprised that you bit and were reeled in, and anyone that knows me knows that I'm no HS30EXR fanboy.

I was just noticing that with pressure applied the zoom 'collapsed' at a rather jerky rate. Whether the force needed was heavy or light, I would hope that it would be steady. Unless, perhaps, there are different things going on INSIDE the lens along the way (lens elements moving differently than just collapsing) and that would affect how much it moves based on force applied. I didn't consider that, if it's a possibility. If it's just a straight 'collapse' as it zooms, it looks like the movement is uneven.


Having once owned what someone recently called an "archaic piece of junk" and a "dinosaur" (my old Panny FZ50) I guess I'm spoiled. I thought ALL superzooms should be silky smooth.
 
PAUL TILL wrote:

Sorry been away, everyone seems to be going skiing so I'm too and frowning the Airport.

I've said before in Joms threads that I have tried lots of HS30's out in the shops but they're always fixed down with an anti theft chord you don't really get the feel for them. ALL the ones I've tried feel the same as this one so I'm guessing the fanboys are just sticking up for their camera.

Here's a short video that might show what I'm talking about. It would have been more helpful if I had some more 50g pouches though, I only have 5 giving a total of 250g.

Paul.

I hit my Fujifilm Finepix HS30 with a sledgehammer and it brook ! Can you believe this? Fuji what are you doing ?

Peter
 
Hi, do you still own both ? In case you do, could you do a ISO400 comparison shots (aperture priority mode, same scene, same aperture) ? Focal lengths 28mm, 80, 300 ?


I am a bit curious about IQ difference.
 
Paul probably likes to tape his smooth zoom lens when use the camera in a way like this... My very very smooth S100fs lens can't be stable for a long time in a position like this... anyway, I have use in the past an HS 20 and the zoom was Ok for me...



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Spiridakis Michael wrote:

Paul probably likes to tape his smooth zoom lens when use the camera in a way like this... My very very smooth S100fs lens can't be stable for a long time in a position like this... anyway, I have use in the past an HS 20 and the zoom was Ok for me...



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For that type of shooting I would use the correct accessory. http://lensband.com/ but then I can't say I've taken many shots of the floor. :P

If you like a camera with a stiff, notchy zoom that's fine, I don't.

Paul.
 
PAUL TILL wrote:
Peter71951 wrote:

I hit my Fujifilm Finepix HS30 with a sledgehammer and it brook ! Can you believe this? Fuji what are you doing ?

Peter
So you hit it with a hammer and it stream !!! What you smoking Peter?
It's nothing unusual, just the kind of babbling brook that we've come to expect from Peter.
 
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PAUL TILL wrote:
Spiridakis Michael wrote:

Paul probably likes to tape his smooth zoom lens when use the camera in a way like this... My very very smooth S100fs lens can't be stable for a long time in a position like this... anyway, I have use in the past an HS 20 and the zoom was Ok for me...



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For that type of shooting I would use the correct accessory. http://lensband.com/ but then I can't say I've taken many shots of the floor. :P

If you like a camera with a stiff, notchy zoom that's fine, I don't.

Paul.
Oh.... No, I would never, never wear anything in my S100fs lens.... at least (no list...LOL..) this had to be a genuine Latex... not cheap silicon... Paul XS-1 is clearly a better camera than HS series .... but I think you overdone once again... Believe me I didn't like the HS-20 me too but for other more serious things... although as a camera is a good project...





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Unfortunately I don't have the 6500 any more. It went to a good home, some one that will use it.

Look for the thread (Bridge in action) that was started recently asking for action shots. I have a series from the 30 and two shots from the 6500 there.

Not really the best for side by side comparison but it does give an idea of the IQ.

Good luck
 
PAUL TILL wrote:

For that type of shooting I would use the correct accessory. http://lensband.com/ but then I can't say I've taken many shots of the floor. :P
Shooting the floor is seriously underrated.

Regarding lensband ... I had no idea that one could make money selling wristbands as lens zoom stiffeners .... I had my own made with my web site on them ...

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Works great and I even gave it away when I sold the lens ... :-)




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Spiridakis Michael wrote:
Paul XS-1 is clearly a better camera than HS series ....
For some kinds of shooting, yes. But the HS series handles strong sunlight a bit better, especially in inexperienced hands. And it has more zoom range for birders. My guess is that it shoots raw a whole lot faster too ...

Still, the S100fs was a pretty good camera for its time.
but I think you overdone once again... Believe me I didn't like the HS-20 me too but for other more serious things... although as a camera is a good project...
That last part is hard to parse. There were serious issues with the HS20 but as a camera, it is a good project. Do you mean that you didn't like the HS20 when it was not being a camera?
 
Happy New Year PT. In the spirit of the call for a more balanced critique by some I offer the following.

You made a pigs ear of using the x10, you evidenced a better measure of success with the xS1 though just as we were seeing some glimmer of better photography from you - here you are with a new camera.

I look forward to seeing some thoughtful use of this proven HS30 machine and possibly some insight on how that knowledge will be transferred when re using the better XS1.

As for the zoom issue, presumably you travel with a full carton between the ears and checked out the camera in a local store before ordering one.
 
max metz wrote:
Happy New Year PT. In the spirit of the call for a more balanced critique by some I offer the following.
I think you need to look up the definition of the word "balanced" ...
You made a pigs ear of using the x10, you evidenced a better measure of success with the xS1 though just as we were seeing some glimmer of better photography from you - here you are with a new camera.

I look forward to seeing some thoughtful use of this proven HS30 machine and possibly some insight on how that knowledge will be transferred when re using the better XS1.

As for the zoom issue, presumably you travel with a full carton between the ears and checked out the camera in a local store before ordering one.
 

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