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I wouldn't call it a viewfinder. It's just a very, very ungainly LCD, especially if there's some sort of silly flip-case attached.T3 wrote:
Well, a tablet's screen does make one heck of a large viewfinder!oki_ wrote:
This is an increasing trend. People carrying around their huge tablets to take pictures, or worse, videos. I can completely understand taking snapshots with your phone, but not with tablets. I fail to comprehend this.
You are wrong. I see parents show up at their kids' school events tablet-in-hand to shoot pictures of their kids. These are events that are planned months in advance.Seriously, though, I doubt people are carrying around tablets specifically and exclusively to shoot pictures or video. They just happen to have it with them.
A dSLR is 1/4 the size of an iPad.Plus, while you might decry the use of tablets because you think they are "huge", I'm sure you have no problem with people lugging around big DSLRs and big DSLR lenses to take pictures or shoot video!
Far from an exceptionally lousy camera, many take pretty good shots.ljfinger wrote:
They are too lazy to carry a compact, but not lazy enough to leave a notebook-sized viewfinder attached to an exceptionally lousy camera at home.
And are just this side of useless.JoeR wrote:
Photography is changing. Get used to it or get left behind. The smart phones and pads out sell DSLRs and are so much easier to use.
You mean, they do better than when they use nothing at all. Barely.Unskilled photographers do well to use them.
No defense required. If it gets the job done, then that's all that matters.Mike_PEAT wrote:
I needed to take a picture for work...I didn't have any of my dSLRs or my MILCs, and I didn't have my phone...all I had was my iPad which I always have on me. It was made more awkward due to the cover I have on it.
In my defense it was either iPad or no picture. My iPod Touch would have been a lot less awkward...I can't imagine the iPad mini being better though.
In the easiest of conditions, as long as you only need a modest wide angle and nothing else. Oh, and as long as you don't need fill flash.photogirl7 wrote:
Far from an exceptionally lousy camera, many take pretty good shots.ljfinger wrote:
They are too lazy to carry a compact, but not lazy enough to leave a notebook-sized viewfinder attached to an exceptionally lousy camera at home.
Actually, I often see people taking pictures at National Parks w their tablets. First of all, who lugs a tablet w them as they walk around a National Park? Where do you stow the thing? Compared w a P&S, how vulnerable to damage is the tablet. Compared to the cost of a P&S camera, how expensive is the tablet?Seriously, though, I doubt people are carrying around tablets specifically and exclusively to shoot pictures or video. They just happen to have it with them.
My phone wasn't charged due to the holidays and I was only going into the office for an hour, so there was no point in carrying it.ljfinger wrote:
You can carry a huge iPad, but not a phone? You must have some oddly-shaped pockets.Mike_PEAT wrote:
didn't have my phone...all I had was my iPad which I always have on me.
Didn't people carrying around view cameras look equally silly in decades past?oki_ wrote:
This is an increasing trend. People carrying around their huge tablets to take pictures, or worse, videos. I can completely understand taking snapshots with your phone, but not with tablets. I fail to comprehend this.
Having these idiots put an iPad with flip case up over their head and thereby block the view of everyone behind them makes me want to smash the dumb things with a hammer.
It's a viewfinder. It's very, very outdated, anachronistic thinking to NOT realize that LCD screens are viewfinders. It's archaic thinking to assume that just because something isn't an "optical" viewfinder, then it must not be a "viewfinder." Time to join the 21st century, pal.ljfinger wrote:
I wouldn't call it a viewfinder. It's just a very, very ungainly LCD, especially if there's some sort of silly flip-case attached.T3 wrote:
Well, a tablet's screen does make one heck of a large viewfinder!oki_ wrote:
This is an increasing trend. People carrying around their huge tablets to take pictures, or worse, videos. I can completely understand taking snapshots with your phone, but not with tablets. I fail to comprehend this.
The reality is that people use whatever they have, whatever they prefer, and whatever suits them. Fewer and fewer casual shooters are choosing to carry a separate camera anymore.You are wrong. I see parents show up at their kids' school events tablet-in-hand to shoot pictures of their kids. These are events that are planned months in advance.Seriously, though, I doubt people are carrying around tablets specifically and exclusively to shoot pictures or video. They just happen to have it with them.
Sure. But there's also the tool who shows up with a D1X and a 70-200/2.8 shooting at high frame rate, clacking his shutter through the whole school event. There are people who want to smash that guy's camera with a hammer, too!A dSLR is 1/4 the size of an iPad.Plus, while you might decry the use of tablets because you think they are "huge", I'm sure you have no problem with people lugging around big DSLRs and big DSLR lenses to take pictures or shoot video!
Having these idiots put an iPad with flip case up over their head and thereby block the view of everyone behind them makes me want to smash the dumb things with a hammer.
Kendall Helmstetter Gelner wrote:
Didn't people carrying around view cameras look equally silly in decades past?oki_ wrote:
This is an increasing trend. People carrying around their huge tablets to take pictures, or worse, videos. I can completely understand taking snapshots with your phone, but not with tablets. I fail to comprehend this.
It gives you a huge area for framing your view. Of course the camera quality is not great (currently), but it can be the equal for a phone camera so who cares if you look a bit silly if you get a better shot than you would have with a phone because you can observe your framing better?
Note that for video, the tablet results can be as good as a phone and again you have that large area for previewing what you are shooting.
I would argue that in pursuit of photographs, photographers are constantly doing things that look "silly" already. Crouching, leaning at odd angles, laying in the dirt, leaning up against support posts, making squinting faces that would have you put away were a camera not in your hand. It doesn't seem so much a transgression to me to have yet more more silly looking thing some photographers do, rather we should welcome them into the club of people willing to sacrifice personal dignity for a better photograph.
I was at Sovereign Hill, a toursit spot in Ballarat Australia last week, watching some candle making with the kids. A group of Asian tourists walked over, pulled out their iPADs and started filiming. All I could think of was that the screen looked excellent. I don't see how it is any different to using a phone.T3 wrote:
This is simple a case of some people being very intolerant of anything that they deem "different". It has happened throughout history. Nothing new.
That was only last week in the Fuji forum.it wasn't too long ago that many people were quite resistant to the idea of having video on a DSLR, o
The times continue to change. Many/most of the typical consumer-type of folk want to snap some photos, maybe catch some video, possibly directly upload & share. Until smartphones & tablets came along, their options to effect this were limited - use a camera and/or a video camera.oki_ wrote:
This is an increasing trend. People carrying around their huge tablets to take pictures, or worse, videos. I can completely understand taking snapshots with your phone, but not with tablets. I fail to comprehend this.
You mean the 19th century of ground glass.T3 wrote:
It's a viewfinder. It's very, very outdated, anachronistic thinking to NOT realize that LCD screens are viewfinders. It's archaic thinking to assume that just because something isn't an "optical" viewfinder, then it must not be a "viewfinder." Time to join the 21st century, pal.ljfinger wrote:
I wouldn't call it a viewfinder. It's just a very, very ungainly LCD, especially if there's some sort of silly flip-case attached.T3 wrote:
Well, a tablet's screen does make one heck of a large viewfinder!oki_ wrote:
This is an increasing trend. People carrying around their huge tablets to take pictures, or worse, videos. I can completely understand taking snapshots with your phone, but not with tablets. I fail to comprehend this.
Their loss, and their choice in this area annoys the people around them.The reality is that people use whatever they have, whatever they prefer, and whatever suits them. Fewer and fewer casual shooters are choosing to carry a separate camera anymore.You are wrong. I see parents show up at their kids' school events tablet-in-hand to shoot pictures of their kids. These are events that are planned months in advance.Seriously, though, I doubt people are carrying around tablets specifically and exclusively to shoot pictures or video. They just happen to have it with them.
That would be me, and the cameras are so quiet that even I can't really hear it over the sound of the concert.Sure. But there's also the tool who shows up with a D1X and a 70-200/2.8 shooting at high frame rate, clacking his shutter through the whole school event. There are people who want to smash that guy's camera with a hammer, too!A dSLR is 1/4 the size of an iPad.Plus, while you might decry the use of tablets because you think they are "huge", I'm sure you have no problem with people lugging around big DSLRs and big DSLR lenses to take pictures or shoot video!
Having these idiots put an iPad with flip case up over their head and thereby block the view of everyone behind them makes me want to smash the dumb things with a hammer.