People using their tablets as cameras, explain this to me!

They are too lazy to carry a compact, but not lazy enough to leave a notebook-sized viewfinder attached to an exceptionally lousy camera at home.
 
T3 wrote:
oki_ wrote:

This is an increasing trend. People carrying around their huge tablets to take pictures, or worse, videos. I can completely understand taking snapshots with your phone, but not with tablets. I fail to comprehend this.
Well, a tablet's screen does make one heck of a large viewfinder!
I wouldn't call it a viewfinder. It's just a very, very ungainly LCD, especially if there's some sort of silly flip-case attached.
Seriously, though, I doubt people are carrying around tablets specifically and exclusively to shoot pictures or video. They just happen to have it with them.
You are wrong. I see parents show up at their kids' school events tablet-in-hand to shoot pictures of their kids. These are events that are planned months in advance.
Plus, while you might decry the use of tablets because you think they are "huge", I'm sure you have no problem with people lugging around big DSLRs and big DSLR lenses to take pictures or shoot video!
A dSLR is 1/4 the size of an iPad.

Having these idiots put an iPad with flip case up over their head and thereby block the view of everyone behind them makes me want to smash the dumb things with a hammer.
 
I can't explain it. I even have a picture of a woman using an iPAD to take a picture while a dSLR hung around her neck!
 
JoeR wrote:

Photography is changing. Get used to it or get left behind. The smart phones and pads out sell DSLRs and are so much easier to use.
And are just this side of useless.
Unskilled photographers do well to use them.
You mean, they do better than when they use nothing at all. Barely.
 
Mike_PEAT wrote:

I needed to take a picture for work...I didn't have any of my dSLRs or my MILCs, and I didn't have my phone...all I had was my iPad which I always have on me. It was made more awkward due to the cover I have on it.

In my defense it was either iPad or no picture. My iPod Touch would have been a lot less awkward...I can't imagine the iPad mini being better though.
No defense required. If it gets the job done, then that's all that matters.
 
photogirl7 wrote:
ljfinger wrote:

They are too lazy to carry a compact, but not lazy enough to leave a notebook-sized viewfinder attached to an exceptionally lousy camera at home.
Far from an exceptionally lousy camera, many take pretty good shots.
In the easiest of conditions, as long as you only need a modest wide angle and nothing else. Oh, and as long as you don't need fill flash.

In short, they're lower-end than the lowest-end compacts covered by DPReview.
 
by using your real cameras a cell phone. Or at least make it look like you are talking on it like a phone. Revenge!
 
Seriously, though, I doubt people are carrying around tablets specifically and exclusively to shoot pictures or video. They just happen to have it with them.
Actually, I often see people taking pictures at National Parks w their tablets. First of all, who lugs a tablet w them as they walk around a National Park? Where do you stow the thing? Compared w a P&S, how vulnerable to damage is the tablet. Compared to the cost of a P&S camera, how expensive is the tablet?

It makes no sense at all.
 
ljfinger wrote:
Mike_PEAT wrote:

didn't have my phone...all I had was my iPad which I always have on me.
You can carry a huge iPad, but not a phone? You must have some oddly-shaped pockets.
My phone wasn't charged due to the holidays and I was only going into the office for an hour, so there was no point in carrying it.

On the other hand I ALWAYS wear a backpack and my iPad is in it, along with the other papers I carry with me to and from work.
 
oki_ wrote:

This is an increasing trend. People carrying around their huge tablets to take pictures, or worse, videos. I can completely understand taking snapshots with your phone, but not with tablets. I fail to comprehend this.
Didn't people carrying around view cameras look equally silly in decades past?

It gives you a huge area for framing your view. Of course the camera quality is not great (currently), but it can be the equal for a phone camera so who cares if you look a bit silly if you get a better shot than you would have with a phone because you can observe your framing better?

Note that for video, the tablet results can be as good as a phone and again you have that large area for previewing what you are shooting.

I would argue that in pursuit of photographs, photographers are constantly doing things that look "silly" already. Crouching, leaning at odd angles, laying in the dirt, leaning up against support posts, making squinting faces that would have you put away were a camera not in your hand. It doesn't seem so much a transgression to me to have yet more more silly looking thing some photographers do, rather we should welcome them into the club of people willing to sacrifice personal dignity for a better photograph.
 
Having these idiots put an iPad with flip case up over their head and thereby block the view of everyone behind them makes me want to smash the dumb things with a hammer.
 
ljfinger wrote:
T3 wrote:
oki_ wrote:

This is an increasing trend. People carrying around their huge tablets to take pictures, or worse, videos. I can completely understand taking snapshots with your phone, but not with tablets. I fail to comprehend this.
Well, a tablet's screen does make one heck of a large viewfinder!
I wouldn't call it a viewfinder. It's just a very, very ungainly LCD, especially if there's some sort of silly flip-case attached.
It's a viewfinder. It's very, very outdated, anachronistic thinking to NOT realize that LCD screens are viewfinders. It's archaic thinking to assume that just because something isn't an "optical" viewfinder, then it must not be a "viewfinder." Time to join the 21st century, pal.
Seriously, though, I doubt people are carrying around tablets specifically and exclusively to shoot pictures or video. They just happen to have it with them.
You are wrong. I see parents show up at their kids' school events tablet-in-hand to shoot pictures of their kids. These are events that are planned months in advance.
The reality is that people use whatever they have, whatever they prefer, and whatever suits them. Fewer and fewer casual shooters are choosing to carry a separate camera anymore.
Plus, while you might decry the use of tablets because you think they are "huge", I'm sure you have no problem with people lugging around big DSLRs and big DSLR lenses to take pictures or shoot video!
A dSLR is 1/4 the size of an iPad.

Having these idiots put an iPad with flip case up over their head and thereby block the view of everyone behind them makes me want to smash the dumb things with a hammer.
Sure. But there's also the tool who shows up with a D1X and a 70-200/2.8 shooting at high frame rate, clacking his shutter through the whole school event. There are people who want to smash that guy's camera with a hammer, too!
 
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Kendall Helmstetter Gelner wrote:
oki_ wrote:

This is an increasing trend. People carrying around their huge tablets to take pictures, or worse, videos. I can completely understand taking snapshots with your phone, but not with tablets. I fail to comprehend this.
Didn't people carrying around view cameras look equally silly in decades past?

It gives you a huge area for framing your view. Of course the camera quality is not great (currently), but it can be the equal for a phone camera so who cares if you look a bit silly if you get a better shot than you would have with a phone because you can observe your framing better?

Note that for video, the tablet results can be as good as a phone and again you have that large area for previewing what you are shooting.

I would argue that in pursuit of photographs, photographers are constantly doing things that look "silly" already. Crouching, leaning at odd angles, laying in the dirt, leaning up against support posts, making squinting faces that would have you put away were a camera not in your hand. It doesn't seem so much a transgression to me to have yet more more silly looking thing some photographers do, rather we should welcome them into the club of people willing to sacrifice personal dignity for a better photograph.



This is simple a case of some people being very intolerant of anything that they deem "different". It has happened throughout history. Nothing new. Some people just have a fixed idea of how things "should" be done, and anything that deviates from that is considered incomprehensible or offensive to their narrow sensibilities. It's human nature...at least for some humans. Fortunately, not all of humanity is so inflexible in their thinking. Remember, it wasn't too long ago that many people were quite resistant to the idea of having video on a DSLR, or using a mobile phone without a physical keypad, or using a tablet at all! People said, "I fail to comprehend this" to all these things.
 
T3 wrote:

This is simple a case of some people being very intolerant of anything that they deem "different". It has happened throughout history. Nothing new.
I was at Sovereign Hill, a toursit spot in Ballarat Australia last week, watching some candle making with the kids. A group of Asian tourists walked over, pulled out their iPADs and started filiming. All I could think of was that the screen looked excellent. I don't see how it is any different to using a phone.

More importantly if I only had an iPAD available I would certainly use it.
it wasn't too long ago that many people were quite resistant to the idea of having video on a DSLR, o
That was only last week in the Fuji forum.
 
oki_ wrote:

This is an increasing trend. People carrying around their huge tablets to take pictures, or worse, videos. I can completely understand taking snapshots with your phone, but not with tablets. I fail to comprehend this.
The times continue to change. Many/most of the typical consumer-type of folk want to snap some photos, maybe catch some video, possibly directly upload & share. Until smartphones & tablets came along, their options to effect this were limited - use a camera and/or a video camera.

Fast forward - the needs/wants are the same, but now there are options beyond dedicated hardware for the photo/video stuff. These kind folks don't want to get into focal lengths, apertures, DOF, etc. They want to capture the moment and move on.

I live in Asia and went to my first wedding in S. Korea a few months ago. At the decisive moment, I was surprised to see many hands raised in the air. I thought this was an aspect of Korean culture I didn't know, maybe a "salute to the couple". Wrong. All of these hands held smartphones, with real-time uploads. The only "real" camera present was the one the pro had - single pro, the ceremony lasted for 30 minutes.


Wandering around Asia with my traditional DSLR, I see iPads held in front, or raised over the heads by some folks. What I previously thought the holders of these fondleslabs were doing was dowsing/divining Dowsing for something, perhaps seeking the path to Feng shui , or maybe mapping via GPS. They're shooting stills & some video, and quite pleased with with the results.

It continues to be a brave, different new world.
 
T3 wrote:
ljfinger wrote:
T3 wrote:
oki_ wrote:

This is an increasing trend. People carrying around their huge tablets to take pictures, or worse, videos. I can completely understand taking snapshots with your phone, but not with tablets. I fail to comprehend this.
Well, a tablet's screen does make one heck of a large viewfinder!
I wouldn't call it a viewfinder. It's just a very, very ungainly LCD, especially if there's some sort of silly flip-case attached.
It's a viewfinder. It's very, very outdated, anachronistic thinking to NOT realize that LCD screens are viewfinders. It's archaic thinking to assume that just because something isn't an "optical" viewfinder, then it must not be a "viewfinder." Time to join the 21st century, pal.
You mean the 19th century of ground glass.

DPReview doesn't agree with you. (Emphasis added).


http://www.dpreview.com/products/canon/compacts/canon_ixus310hs/specification

Screen / viewfinder
  • Articulated LCD Fixed
  • Screen size 3.2"
  • Screen dots 461,000
  • Touch screen Yes
  • Screen type PureColor II Touch TFT LCD
  • Live view Yes
  • Viewfinder type None
Seriously, though, I doubt people are carrying around tablets specifically and exclusively to shoot pictures or video. They just happen to have it with them.
You are wrong. I see parents show up at their kids' school events tablet-in-hand to shoot pictures of their kids. These are events that are planned months in advance.
The reality is that people use whatever they have, whatever they prefer, and whatever suits them. Fewer and fewer casual shooters are choosing to carry a separate camera anymore.
Their loss, and their choice in this area annoys the people around them.
Plus, while you might decry the use of tablets because you think they are "huge", I'm sure you have no problem with people lugging around big DSLRs and big DSLR lenses to take pictures or shoot video!
A dSLR is 1/4 the size of an iPad.

Having these idiots put an iPad with flip case up over their head and thereby block the view of everyone behind them makes me want to smash the dumb things with a hammer.
Sure. But there's also the tool who shows up with a D1X and a 70-200/2.8 shooting at high frame rate, clacking his shutter through the whole school event. There are people who want to smash that guy's camera with a hammer, too!
That would be me, and the cameras are so quiet that even I can't really hear it over the sound of the concert.
 
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So this morning I decided to find out what all this fuss is about and do a bit of "research".

I nicked my wife's I-pad when we went out to treat the kids for breakfast. While we were seated, I went around and started snapping away, oblivious to the fact that my beloved, darling wife told the waiter she does not know me. The betrayal! In fact, I had such a blast, I was approached by security and told, in no uncertain terms, to vacate to premises, much to the amusement of my kids.

Yes, it was fun, but to be perfectly honest, I did feel like a twit afterwards, and my wife agrees.
 
I often hear that "The best camera is the one you have with you", so it's a choice of:




1/ Take the photo




2/ Don't take the photo










Choose.




They do look silly, but I'd rather look silly and get a photo than miss it for vanity.
 
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