I can't accept m43 mount.

Not familiar with that, myself. The E-M5 and ZD 7-14 is a great combination--probably the best way to use the lens we've had to date.

Cheers,

Rick
 
Thanks all of you for responses. However I am not convinced yet, maybe I am a little different ;)

Let's discuss my case. I use 35-100 for outdoor sports, most of the time with monopod and sometimes handheld.

Quite frequently there are moments that I have to hold my camera with only one hand by the grip - I am not shooting in that position but maybe I need to talk through the radio or pick the phone or I need to clean my spectacles. This puts the strain on the mount that "pro" or "semi pro" system should withstand. There is always "battle" on the field. If I shoot in winter or the ground is dirty and wet I can not put the camera on the ground I need to hold it somehow and grabbing it by the lens is not always possible.

My E-3 mount already developed some play that I can feel when 35-100 is on. m43 smaller mount diameter and longer off-set caused by adapter will make bigger force moment and as a consequence higher stress on the mount.

Some of you are saying it is camera attached to a big lens and not lens to a camera. That might be true if you use tripod but not in my case.
 
If Olympus will ever come up with a Micro Four Thirds solution that will use Four Thirds lenses in a manner that is good enough for all. Fortunately, it is not a pressing issue for me. I can well understand it might be for some though.
 
Darrell500 wrote:

Just my luck a hybrid and an E7, you know a lot of us will just have to have both. :-) This is the way I have always thought Olympus should go. The thought of having access to both lens suites on one body is going to leave me broke and possibly divorced <grin>
 
msusic wrote:
altair8800 wrote:
jim stirling wrote:
kittykat23uk wrote:

Hmmm.. I tend to use the 50-200 with a 1.4 hand held as my general walkabout lens for wildlife on my 620, I usually just sling it over my shoulder. Never felt that was an issue. In fact I took the collar off because it annoys me... So if the m4/3 to 4/3 is not up to this kind of use, then that would be a bit of an issue..
 
Butchy wrote:

Question for those who are looking forward to switch to m43 when the new camera emerges at the end of 2013.

Say you have a complete range of SHG heavy lenses. Do you mind to use adapter? Will you stack your teleconverter with the adapter? You don't worry that after multiple changes of the lenses you will get a play? Don't you afraid that your heavy super grade lens will get astigmatism or other imperfection on the level of kit lenses? The diameter of the m43 mount is designed for small lenses. If you do sports for example or work in a harsh condition you need your equipment to be robust, you do not have time to think about your weak lens to camera link. Will you put on your 35-100mm f2 and carry it on the belt attached to your m43 camera?

In my opinion the answer is NO. The adapter is prosthesis that will give you good functionality but not the full functionality of the native 43 mount.
There are no optical elements in the adapter to introduce anomalies.

The slightly smaller mount diameter likewise has no bearing on optical quality and if anything can make for more robust mount.

As has been pointed out, experienced photographers carry any large lens by the lens, or use a monopod/tripod.

Finally: why ask people about using a lens such as the 35-100 on m4/3, which many people do, and then come to an unsupported conclusion? If you haven't done it yourself, don't say it won't work.

Olympus visionary Jay Dickman has been using his 35-100 on m4/3 since the first PEN came out. I've seen photos and videos of him doing so. He holds that combo by the lens, and in one video I saw remarked how he likes the handling of a PEN on that particular lens because it adds so little weight.




BTW, many years ago when Nikon came out with the compact FM, Nikon owners said basically the same thing: the smaller FM wasn't robust enough to handle some of the big lenses. Then, as now, they were people who didn't know how to properly carry their gear.
 
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The wonderful 35-100 is much more balanceed on an E5.......
 
I dot mind the mount is 43 or M43.I realy care about 43 lens can be used on m43 fully.
 
While Olympus continues to encourage m4/3 adopters to use HG and SHG lenses on little m4/3 bodies with smaller diameter lens mounts, they are also developing Olympus LG-OMD-6 Lens Grips with integrated shutter buttons and exposure control dials so we don't have to hold these rigs by the camera.

The new Lens Grips will have two sides for gripping with both hands so the tiny m4/3 can just hang at the back end. You'll still be able to access the camera body at will for those all important touch screen controls and art filters.

The new LG-OMD-6 Lens Grip will mount where the lens collars currently clasp the lens and interconnect through a new adapter via a flexible 5-pin cord. We'll only need a 5-pin to control the shutter and basic exposure controls we all want at our finger tips when we're ready to shoot. For this it doesn't need a wired connection to the lens, only the body.

For some of the larger SHG lenses that don't have lens collars, like the 14-35 f/2 and the 7-14 f/4, they'll need an updated SWD model with a space on the barrel for the LG-OMD-6 Collar and a way to slip it over the existing zoom or focus rings.

By the way, this news about the Olympus LG-OMD-6 Lens Grip comes from a very reliable source inside the vast Olympus circle who can't be named at this time. When it comes to friuition you can say you read it here first.

To the OP's first assumption: I'm not looking forward to switching to m4/3 when Olympus releases the next upgrade to the E-5 at the end of 2013, which is what Olympus' Spainish CEO announced. A lot of people hyped what 4/3Rumor and QUESABESDE were saying it meant but Olympus only said there will be another camera for ZD 4/3 glass by the end of 2013. That's exactly what Olympus has projected before. So I'll be looking forward to a new DSLR with the same 4/3 mount.

I agree with the OP on the main point. Mounting a large lens on a smaller mount induces more stress and less moment resisting torque, or lever arm to hold it up. Now if Olympus decided to develop a body with a larger mount and a converter to downsize to the ZD 4/3 mount, that would be stronger and would appeal to my sense of sound, physical engineering.
 
CharlesB58 wrote:
Butchy wrote:

Question for those who are looking forward to switch to m43 when the new camera emerges at the end of 2013.

Say you have a complete range of SHG heavy lenses. Do you mind to use adapter? Will you stack your teleconverter with the adapter? You don't worry that after multiple changes of the lenses you will get a play? Don't you afraid that your heavy super grade lens will get astigmatism or other imperfection on the level of kit lenses? The diameter of the m43 mount is designed for small lenses. If you do sports for example or work in a harsh condition you need your equipment to be robust, you do not have time to think about your weak lens to camera link. Will you put on your 35-100mm f2 and carry it on the belt attached to your m43 camera?

In my opinion the answer is NO. The adapter is prosthesis that will give you good functionality but not the full functionality of the native 43 mount.
There are no optical elements in the adapter to introduce anomalies.

The slightly smaller mount diameter likewise has no bearing on optical quality and if anything can make for more robust mount.

As has been pointed out, experienced photographers carry any large lens by the lens, or use a monopod/tripod.

Finally: why ask people about using a lens such as the 35-100 on m4/3, which many people do, and then come to an unsupported conclusion? If you haven't done it yourself, don't say it won't work.

Olympus visionary Jay Dickman has been using his 35-100 on m4/3 since the first PEN came out. I've seen photos and videos of him doing so. He holds that combo by the lens, and in one video I saw remarked how he likes the handling of a PEN on that particular lens because it adds so little weight.

BTW, many years ago when Nikon came out with the compact FM, Nikon owners said basically the same thing: the smaller FM wasn't robust enough to handle some of the big lenses. Then, as now, they were people who didn't know how to properly carry their gear.
presumably, except when its on a sling ;)





 
dave gaines wrote:

To the OP's first assumption: I'm not looking forward to switching to m4/3 when Olympus releases the next upgrade to the E-5 at the end of 2013, which is what Olympus' Spainish CEO announced. A lot of people hyped what 4/3Rumor and QUESABESDE were saying it meant but Olympus only said there will be another camera for ZD 4/3 glass by the end of 2013. That's exactly what Olympus has projected before. So I'll be looking forward to a new DSLR with the same 4/3 mount.
Me also, with the OM-D sensor and better continuous AF.
I agree with the OP on the main point. Mounting a large lens on a smaller mount induces more stress and less moment resisting torque, or lever arm to hold it up. Now if Olympus decided to develop a body with a larger mount and a converter to downsize to the ZD 4/3 mount, that would be stronger and would appeal to my sense of sound, physical engineering.
The OP would be amazed to see my Pentax Q mounted on the Sigma 300-800mm. I do not touch the Q except to turn it on, and use IR remote to trigger it.

Dan
 
altair8800 wrote:

The OP would be amazed to see my Pentax Q mounted on the Sigma 300-800mm. I do not touch the Q except to turn it on, and use IR remote to trigger it.

Dan



 G1 on Sigmonster

G1 on Sigmonster

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Comments and critiques always welcome.
Bob K.
 
R2elk wrote:
altair8800 wrote:

The OP would be amazed to see my Pentax Q mounted on the Sigma 300-800mm. I do not touch the Q except to turn it on, and use IR remote to trigger it.

Dan
 G1 on Sigmonster

G1 on Sigmonster

--
Comments and critiques always welcome.
Bob K.
Yes, but that works much better with a gimbal mount. And the G1 is huge compared to Q.

Dan
 
Butchy wrote:

Some of you are saying it is camera attached to a big lens and not lens to a camera. That might be true if you use tripod but not in my case.
Its true ALL THE TIME..

If you find you MUST hold it with one hand while using a heavy lens, then that ONE HAND should be gripping the LENS .

If its on a tripod with a heavy lens, the lens should be the ting thats mounted on the tripod.

You can buy the biggest, heaviest camera you want... If the lens weighs more than the camera, you are over stressing and putting torque on the mount that could eventually do damage..

I fail to see what is so difficult to accept and or understand.
 
herebefore wrote:
Butchy wrote:

Some of you are saying it is camera attached to a big lens and not lens to a camera. That might be true if you use tripod but not in my case.
Its true ALL THE TIME..

If you find you MUST hold it with one hand while using a heavy lens, then that ONE HAND should be gripping the LENS .

If its on a tripod with a heavy lens, the lens should be the ting thats mounted on the tripod.

You can buy the biggest, heaviest camera you want... If the lens weighs more than the camera, you are over stressing and putting torque on the mount that could eventually do damage..

I fail to see what is so difficult to accept and or understand.
 

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