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Just got the grip portion today. Thought I would share these photos for anyone interested. Ergonomically, it is absolutely wonderful...

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Thanks for sharing. Would love to see a photo of hand on grip & where fingers fall re top controls.
 
I got the Milich grip several months ago when it first came out and I have to admit this is a very nice grip, too. The thing that's great with either of these grips is the solidity of the carved aluminum gives the camera an additional heft and stability that comes in very handy in slow shutter, hand held situations.
 
Thanks for posting these. But I'm puzzled about the grip design. I have never seen it pictured anywhere before. The only image I have seen is of a bare-bones, un-sculptured grip that I thought came with the L-bracket.

Where can I find this grip design?
 
Rand 47 said:
Rand 47 wrote:

Thanks for sharing. Would love to see a photo of hand on grip & where fingers fall re top controls.
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I will try to take a photo as you suggest tomorrow if I have a chance...
 
Member said:
Framer wrote:
Member said:
SigmaChrome wrote:

Thanks for posting these. But I'm puzzled about the grip design. I have never seen it pictured anywhere before. The only image I have seen is of a bare-bones, un-sculptured grip that I thought came with the L-bracket.

Where can I find this grip design?
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Here you go:

http://reallyrightstuff.com/Items.aspx?code=BodySigmaDP&key=cat
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Thanks Framer. So - you bought the grip sight unseen?

It does look like a nice design and you seem to be happy with it. I'll definitely consider it.
 
SigmaChrome said:
SigmaChrome wrote:
SigmaChrome said:
Framer wrote:
SigmaChrome said:
SigmaChrome wrote:

Thanks for posting these. But I'm puzzled about the grip design. I have never seen it pictured anywhere before. The only image I have seen is of a bare-bones, un-sculptured grip that I thought came with the L-bracket.

Where can I find this grip design?
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Here you go:

http://reallyrightstuff.com/Items.aspx?code=BodySigmaDP&key=cat
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Thanks Framer. So - you bought the grip sight unseen?

It does look like a nice design and you seem to be happy with it. I'll definitely consider it.
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Yes, I just trusted RRS to come up with a good design (as they normally do...). Just so you know, you do have to have at least the bottom plate to be able to mount the grip.

It's worth every penny, the camera feels like a weapon with the L-plate and grip mounted. That's just an added bonus though, I bought it for improved ergonomics which it definitely helps with. I will use this camera mostly (95% of the time) on a tripod but the grip will be nice for times that I don't.
 
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Framer wrote:
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Member said:
It's worth every penny, the camera feels like a weapon with the L-plate and grip mounted. That's just an added bonus though, I bought it for improved ergonomics which it definitely helps with. I will use this camera mostly (95% of the time) on a tripod but the grip will be nice for times that I don't.
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The great thing about either of the grips is that they also are tripod plates, at least for RRS plates (although I believe both are also Arca compatible). Even though I shot on tripod a fair amount I like the grip because it makes the choice easy.

I only have one Milch grip at the moment, I think I'm going to order the RRS grip as well so I have a grip + L plate for each camera and can compare.
 
I would say that the purpose of the DP cameras is to be small and compact. Putting a grip like the one you show on them makes them quite bulky. So to me the DP looses it's advantage.

I do understand that some people want a better grip, but, I really do hope that Sigma will not change anything massively about the design principles of the DP series cameras ... such a grip should always be an accessory.

Having that said, I hope you enjoy your new accessory!

Best regards,
Hardy
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I found that the DP2M was very slippery and hard to handle without a grip. For me small and compact is besides the point with this camera. I do like the fact that between its size and leaf shutter it demands only a tiny tripod.
 
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Kendall Helmstetter Gelner said:
Kendall Helmstetter Gelner wrote:
Kendall Helmstetter Gelner said:
Framer wrote:
Kendall Helmstetter Gelner said:
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It's worth every penny, the camera feels like a weapon with the L-plate and grip mounted. That's just an added bonus though, I bought it for improved ergonomics which it definitely helps with. I will use this camera mostly (95% of the time) on a tripod but the grip will be nice for times that I don't.
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The great thing about either of the grips is that they also are tripod plates, at least for RRS plates (although I believe both are also Arca compatible). Even though I shot on tripod a fair amount I like the grip because it makes the choice easy.
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Good number of people already have tripod plates. The plates are not necessarily compatible with Arca standards. Simple or dedicated plate can be used with any camera there is. Here is my rig using Gitzo plate. I can use it with any camera I own(ed) or I can stash it away for the time when I need it.:




Kendall Helmstetter Gelner said:
I only have one Milch grip at the moment, I think I'm going to order the RRS grip as well so I have a grip + L plate for each camera and can compare.

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---> Kendall
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kigiphoto/
http://www.pbase.com/kgelner
http://www.pbase.com/sigmadslr/user_home
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Richard Franiec said:
Richard Franiec wrote:
Richard Franiec said:
Kendall Helmstetter Gelner wrote:
Richard Franiec said:
Framer wrote:
Richard Franiec said:
<...>

It's worth every penny, the camera feels like a weapon with the L-plate and grip mounted. That's just an added bonus though, I bought it for improved ergonomics which it definitely helps with. I will use this camera mostly (95% of the time) on a tripod but the grip will be nice for times that I don't.
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The great thing about either of the grips is that they also are tripod plates, at least for RRS plates (although I believe both are also Arca compatible). Even though I shot on tripod a fair amount I like the grip because it makes the choice easy.
Click to expand...
Good number of people already have tripod plates. The plates are not necessarily compatible with Arca standards. Simple or dedicated plate can be used with any camera there is. Here is my rig using Gitzo plate. I can use it with any camera I own(ed) or I can stash it away for the time when I need it.:

Richard Franiec said:
I only have one Milch grip at the moment, I think I'm going to order the RRS grip as well so I have a grip + L plate for each camera and can compare.

--
---> Kendall
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kigiphoto/
http://www.pbase.com/kgelner
http://www.pbase.com/sigmadslr/user_home
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Sorry, here is the picture:
 
Richard Franiec said:
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Good number of people already have tripod plates. The plates are not necessarily compatible with Arca standards. Simple or dedicated plate can be used with any camera there is. Here is my rig using Gitzo plate. I can use it with any camera I own(ed) or I can stash it away for the time when I need it.:
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I believe L plates are only offered by Milich and RRS and if you are serious about using the DP2M on a tripod the L plate is the best kind to have. The variability in the "Arca" plates is only an issue with the quick release type A/S mounts. Even then I believe most lever release mounts are adjustable.
 
Hardy Steiner said:
Hardy Steiner wrote:

I would say that the purpose of the DP cameras is to be small and compact. Putting a grip like the one you show on them makes them quite bulky. So to me the DP looses it's advantage.

I do understand that some people want a better grip, but, I really do hope that Sigma will not change anything massively about the design principles of the DP series cameras ... such a grip should always be an accessory.

Having that said, I hope you enjoy your new accessory!
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For me, buying the DP2M was more about image quality, the size of the camera was irrelevant. Adding the L-plate and grip made it much more usable.

If I want a 'go everywhere with me camera', I grab my RX-100.
 
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Richard Franiec said:
Richard Franiec wrote:
Richard Franiec said:
Kendall Helmstetter Gelner wrote:
Richard Franiec said:
Framer wrote:
Richard Franiec said:
<...>

It's worth every penny, the camera feels like a weapon with the L-plate and grip mounted. That's just an added bonus though, I bought it for improved ergonomics which it definitely helps with. I will use this camera mostly (95% of the time) on a tripod but the grip will be nice for times that I don't.
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The great thing about either of the grips is that they also are tripod plates, at least for RRS plates (although I believe both are also Arca compatible). Even though I shot on tripod a fair amount I like the grip because it makes the choice easy.
Click to expand...
Good number of people already have tripod plates. The plates are not necessarily compatible with Arca standards. Simple or dedicated plate can be used with any camera there is. Here is my rig using Gitzo plate. I can use it with any camera I own(ed) or I can stash it away for the time when I need it.:

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Sure, there are lots of different proprietary 'standards' for tripod plates out there. Manfrotto, Slik, Gitzo, <insert department store brand here> etc. Most of the time they don't work with each other.

Arca-Swiss is a standard that is used my many different manufacturers such as Arca-Swiss, Really Right Stuff, Kirk, Acratech, Markins, Sunwayfoto and many others. Almost all of the time, they work interchangeably (the RRS lever clamp being an exception sometimes). I can take my camera off tripod (Acratech head) and stick it on a ground-pod (Sunwayfoto head) without having to worry about a different clamp system needing a different plate. I used to run into that situation when using Manfrotto and Slik equipment.

Also, the Gitzo plates are prone to twisting which can be an issue when moving the camera in pano setup and other similar situations. You do realize what an L-plate is for correct?

If you want to stick with your multi-use plate, that's great, but don't think there isn't a reason for these custom plates being made/used.
 
Member said:
Framer wrote:
Member said:
Richard Franiec wrote:
Member said:
Kendall Helmstetter Gelner wrote:
Member said:
Framer wrote:
Member said:
<...>

It's worth every penny, the camera feels like a weapon with the L-plate and grip mounted. That's just an added bonus though, I bought it for improved ergonomics which it definitely helps with. I will use this camera mostly (95% of the time) on a tripod but the grip will be nice for times that I don't.
Click to expand...
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The great thing about either of the grips is that they also are tripod plates, at least for RRS plates (although I believe both are also Arca compatible). Even though I shot on tripod a fair amount I like the grip because it makes the choice easy.
Click to expand...
Good number of people already have tripod plates. The plates are not necessarily compatible with Arca standards. Simple or dedicated plate can be used with any camera there is. Here is my rig using Gitzo plate. I can use it with any camera I own(ed) or I can stash it away for the time when I need it.:

Click to expand...
Sure, there are lots of different proprietary 'standards' for tripod plates out there. Manfrotto, Slik, Gitzo, <insert department store brand here> etc. Most of the time they don't work with each other.

Arca-Swiss is a standard that is used my many different manufacturers such as Arca-Swiss, Really Right Stuff, Kirk, Acratech, Markins, Sunwayfoto and many others. Almost all of the time, they work interchangeably (the RRS lever clamp being an exception sometimes). I can take my camera off tripod (Acratech head) and stick it on a ground-pod (Sunwayfoto head) without having to worry about a different clamp system needing a different plate. I used to run into that situation when using Manfrotto and Slik equipment.

Also, the Gitzo plates are prone to twisting which can be an issue when moving the camera in pano setup and other similar situations. You do realize what an L-plate is for correct?

If you want to stick with your multi-use plate, that's great, but don't think there isn't a reason for these custom plates being made/used.
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I understand the purpose of I or L plates. They just replicate tripod socket after all.

The real point of this exercise is if you really need the whole system to get better "grip" on the camera when you already have your tripod arrangements in place?

Here is the illustration (if I'm lucky this time LOL):

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/2655569209/photos/2353576/e52g9617

Standard plates, including Gitzo, are fine for most cameras, even the heavy ones. What would be compelling reason to go for another custom plate (and the new tripod head) if one already have one which works?

Just curious

Richard
 
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Richard Franiec said:
Richard Franiec wrote:
Richard Franiec said:
Framer wrote:
Richard Franiec said:
Richard Franiec wrote:
Richard Franiec said:
Kendall Helmstetter Gelner wrote:
Richard Franiec said:
Framer wrote:
Richard Franiec said:
<...>

It's worth every penny, the camera feels like a weapon with the L-plate and grip mounted. That's just an added bonus though, I bought it for improved ergonomics which it definitely helps with. I will use this camera mostly (95% of the time) on a tripod but the grip will be nice for times that I don't.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
The great thing about either of the grips is that they also are tripod plates, at least for RRS plates (although I believe both are also Arca compatible). Even though I shot on tripod a fair amount I like the grip because it makes the choice easy.
Click to expand...
Good number of people already have tripod plates. The plates are not necessarily compatible with Arca standards. Simple or dedicated plate can be used with any camera there is. Here is my rig using Gitzo plate. I can use it with any camera I own(ed) or I can stash it away for the time when I need it.:

Click to expand...
Sure, there are lots of different proprietary 'standards' for tripod plates out there. Manfrotto, Slik, Gitzo, <insert department store brand here> etc. Most of the time they don't work with each other.

Arca-Swiss is a standard that is used my many different manufacturers such as Arca-Swiss, Really Right Stuff, Kirk, Acratech, Markins, Sunwayfoto and many others. Almost all of the time, they work interchangeably (the RRS lever clamp being an exception sometimes). I can take my camera off tripod (Acratech head) and stick it on a ground-pod (Sunwayfoto head) without having to worry about a different clamp system needing a different plate. I used to run into that situation when using Manfrotto and Slik equipment.

Also, the Gitzo plates are prone to twisting which can be an issue when moving the camera in pano setup and other similar situations. You do realize what an L-plate is for correct?

If you want to stick with your multi-use plate, that's great, but don't think there isn't a reason for these custom plates being made/used.
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I understand the purpose of I or L plates. They just replicate tripod socket after all.

The real point of this exercise is if you really need the whole system to get better "grip" on the camera when you already have your tripod arrangements in place?

Here is the illustration (if I'm lucky this time LOL):

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/2655569209/photos/2353576/e52g9617

Standard plates, including Gitzo, are fine for most cameras, even the heavy ones. What would be compelling reason to go for another custom plate (and the new tripod head) if one already have one which works?

Just curious

Richard
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Personally, I just buy the plates for each camera for the reasons I mentioned above. I buy them when I get the camera and they just stay attached, ready to go.

On the same token, why get a custom 'stick-on' grip for each camera if you can get generic grips on Ebay for much less and will work with pretty much any camera? ;-)
 
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Member said:
Framer wrote:
Member said:
Richard Franiec wrote:
Member said:
Framer wrote:
Member said:
Richard Franiec wrote:
Member said:
Kendall Helmstetter Gelner wrote:
Member said:
Framer wrote:
Member said:
<...>

It's worth every penny, the camera feels like a weapon with the L-plate and grip mounted. That's just an added bonus though, I bought it for improved ergonomics which it definitely helps with. I will use this camera mostly (95% of the time) on a tripod but the grip will be nice for times that I don't.
Click to expand...
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The great thing about either of the grips is that they also are tripod plates, at least for RRS plates (although I believe both are also Arca compatible). Even though I shot on tripod a fair amount I like the grip because it makes the choice easy.
Click to expand...
Good number of people already have tripod plates. The plates are not necessarily compatible with Arca standards. Simple or dedicated plate can be used with any camera there is. Here is my rig using Gitzo plate. I can use it with any camera I own(ed) or I can stash it away for the time when I need it.:

Click to expand...
Sure, there are lots of different proprietary 'standards' for tripod plates out there. Manfrotto, Slik, Gitzo, <insert department store brand here> etc. Most of the time they don't work with each other.

Arca-Swiss is a standard that is used my many different manufacturers such as Arca-Swiss, Really Right Stuff, Kirk, Acratech, Markins, Sunwayfoto and many others. Almost all of the time, they work interchangeably (the RRS lever clamp being an exception sometimes). I can take my camera off tripod (Acratech head) and stick it on a ground-pod (Sunwayfoto head) without having to worry about a different clamp system needing a different plate. I used to run into that situation when using Manfrotto and Slik equipment.

Also, the Gitzo plates are prone to twisting which can be an issue when moving the camera in pano setup and other similar situations. You do realize what an L-plate is for correct?

If you want to stick with your multi-use plate, that's great, but don't think there isn't a reason for these custom plates being made/used.
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I understand the purpose of I or L plates. They just replicate tripod socket after all.

The real point of this exercise is if you really need the whole system to get better "grip" on the camera when you already have your tripod arrangements in place?

Here is the illustration (if I'm lucky this time LOL):

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/2655569209/photos/2353576/e52g9617

Standard plates, including Gitzo, are fine for most cameras, even the heavy ones. What would be compelling reason to go for another custom plate (and the new tripod head) if one already have one which works?

Just curious

Richard
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Personally, I just buy the plates for each camera for the reasons I mentioned above. I buy them when I get the camera and they just stay attached, ready to go.
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I can see that you use quality stuff in your set ups.

Quality is often addictive. Having said that, in my opinion, RRS made product is exemplary in terms of design and execution. I'm not at all surprised that once you try it, you come back for more. Well deserved recognition and trust in the brand.
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On the same token, why get a custom 'stick-on' grip for each camera if you can get generic grips on Ebay for much less and will work with pretty much any camera? ;-)
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Indeed. The wonderful thing is to have choices. If you think about it, it is amazing that the "niche" cameras like DPMerrills have such great assortment of aftermarket accessories available with more to come.




Cheers




Richard
 
Nice shots thanks, and RRS have them in stock (if your post doesn't result in a rush of sales!). This is made of three different RRS components isn't it (bottom plate, the L and the grip)?

Do they add quite a bit to the weight, and is the grip part as essential or useful as the L bracket buy itself?

Also what model ballhead is that - is it an Acratech? How heavy please?

Thanks
 
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