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axcentphoto said:
axcentphoto wrote:

Not sure if this was already mentioned or if you are a Costco member...they have a 24" Samsung LED monitor for only $140 with coupon. Brent
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FYI... that Samsung monitor is not in the same class as what the OP was looking for.

For $140 what you are likely receiving is a monitor that:
  • uses a "TN" tft LCD panel (vs AH-IPS) so gamma/color will shift at angles other than straight on
  • has a W-LED back light that probably only covers about 94% of the sRGB color space and somewhere around 70% of the AdobeRGB color space. It probably has light leakage issues such as flash lighting and edge bleed.
  • it likely has a 6bit + FRC (not AFRC or MFRC) color depth and as such would probably exhibit noticeable banding in color gradients. This is versus 8, 8bit+AFRC, or true 10bit color depths in the other monitors discussed.
It's a budget monitor that is intended for general use, ideal for the university student who likes to play a lot of games and watch videos in their dorm room, but far less than ideal for image editing.

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Hi,

I have an early 2011 Macbook Pro and want to know if you can use a minidisplay port to displayport to connect the computer to an NEC PA 271W-BK monitor at full 2560 pixel resolution.

Or will I need to use the dual-link DVI adapter method?

The mini displayport to displayport adapter is $19 vs. dual link adaptor($90).
 
BeachnCruz said:
BeachnCruz wrote:

As of 12/10 the NEC PA271W-BK 27" Monitors at B&H are back down to $799.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...71W_BK_MultiSync_PA271W_BK_27_Widescreen.html
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A Ray of Sunshine ... B&H is actually shipping a few ....

B&H just emailed a shipping confirmation and tracking number so the new NEC PA271W-BK 27" Monitor will arrive in a few days. I've got the Spectraview II software and a new X-rite i1 Display Pro Colorimeter sitting here ready to calibrate upon arrival....

Jim
 
Joe Tam said:
Joe Tam wrote:

Hi,

I have an early 2011 Macbook Pro and want to know if you can use a minidisplay port to displayport to connect the computer to an NEC PA 271W-BK monitor at full 2560 pixel resolution.

Or will I need to use the dual-link DVI adapter method?

The mini displayport to displayport adapter is $19 vs. dual link adaptor($90).
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Hi Joe ... You will need the NEC 6.6' Mini DisplayPort Male to DisplayPort Male Cable (Black) Mfr# PA-MDP-CABL, which may or may not be included with the Monitor or you can purchase it from B&H. You might ask "PonderosaBob" on this forum thread if he received the NEC PA-MDP-CABL with his recently delivered PA271W-BK from B&H.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/763126-REG/NEC_PA_MDP_CABL_6_6_Mini_DisplayPort_Male.html

Jim
 
I use the iMac 27", not sure if it's same as what you refer as 27 Cinema, but it is already excellent, can't have an issue. I think it's about 105PPI, more than the typical screen out there.
 
BeachnCruz said:
BeachnCruz wrote:
BeachnCruz said:
BeachnCruz wrote:

As of 12/10 the NEC PA271W-BK 27" Monitors at B&H are back down to $799.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...71W_BK_MultiSync_PA271W_BK_27_Widescreen.html
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A Ray of Sunshine ... B&H is actually shipping a few ....

B&H just emailed a shipping confirmation and tracking number so the new NEC PA271W-BK 27" Monitor will arrive in a few days. I've got the Spectraview II software and a new X-rite i1 Display Pro Colorimeter sitting here ready to calibrate upon arrival....

Jim
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I got a tracking number today and expected delivery tomorrow. B&H shows "IN STOCK" as of now, and $799 for those looking to pull the trigger.
 
I ordered one for pickup. They said they had 20 in stock at the Brooklyn warehouse. Make that 19. :) The units are only available for shipping so if you are going to the store call ahead so they can deliver it to the store. Have to make two long trips to get this.


MrJulius said:
MrJulius wrote:
MrJulius said:
BeachnCruz wrote:
MrJulius said:
BeachnCruz wrote:

As of 12/10 the NEC PA271W-BK 27" Monitors at B&H are back down to $799.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...71W_BK_MultiSync_PA271W_BK_27_Widescreen.html
Click to expand...
A Ray of Sunshine ... B&H is actually shipping a few ....

B&H just emailed a shipping confirmation and tracking number so the new NEC PA271W-BK 27" Monitor will arrive in a few days. I've got the Spectraview II software and a new X-rite i1 Display Pro Colorimeter sitting here ready to calibrate upon arrival....

Jim
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I got a tracking number today and expected delivery tomorrow. B&H shows "IN STOCK" as of now, and $799 for those looking to pull the trigger.
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The BH site states it comes with a displayport cable. I will check. I got this mindisplay port to displayport adaptor for $20.

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www.bhphotovideo.com


BeachnCruz said:
BeachnCruz wrote:
BeachnCruz said:
Joe Tam wrote:

Hi,

I have an early 2011 Macbook Pro and want to know if you can use a minidisplay port to displayport to connect the computer to an NEC PA 271W-BK monitor at full 2560 pixel resolution.

Or will I need to use the dual-link DVI adapter method?

The mini displayport to displayport adapter is $19 vs. dual link adaptor($90).
Click to expand...
Hi Joe ... You will need the NEC 6.6' Mini DisplayPort Male to DisplayPort Male Cable (Black) Mfr# PA-MDP-CABL, which may or may not be included with the Monitor or you can purchase it from B&H. You might ask "PonderosaBob" on this forum thread if he received the NEC PA-MDP-CABL with his recently delivered PA271W-BK from B&H.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/763126-REG/NEC_PA_MDP_CABL_6_6_Mini_DisplayPort_Male.html

Jim
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Anyone use i1 display 2 to calibrate this screen with Spectraview II? I see it is listed as compatible with Spectraview on the necdisplay.com site. I was told here you needed a wide gamut colorimeter and i don't think my i1 display 2(not the pro version) has that capability.

Also, Java SE version 6 needs to be downloaded to run Spectraview II. I've heard a lot about Java vulnerabilities and was wondering if I can delete java after running calibrating with Spectraview for security purposes.

Does Spectraview need to be running at all times or can it be closed after calibration?
 
Joe Tam said:
Joe Tam wrote:

Anyone use i1 display 2 to calibrate this screen with Spectraview II? I see it is listed as compatible with Spectraview on the necdisplay.com site. I was told here you needed a wide gamut colorimeter and i don't think my i1 display 2(not the pro version) has that capability.

Also, Java SE version 6 needs to be downloaded to run Spectraview II. I've heard a lot about Java vulnerabilities and was wondering if I can delete java after running calibrating with Spectraview for security purposes.

Does Spectraview need to be running at all times or can it be closed after calibration?
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I wonder this also. This is the colorimeter in question:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=465156&Q=&is=REG&A=details


Would it be better to upgrade to this one:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/798930-REG/X_Rite_EODIS3_i1Display_Pro.html


I was thinking of doing that anyway. Can anyone sum up the differences? Thanks...
 
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Joe Tam said:
Joe Tam wrote:

The BH site states it comes with a displayport cable. I will check. I got this mindisplay port to displayport adaptor for $20.

Loading…

www.bhphotovideo.com
Joe Tam said:
BeachnCruz wrote:
Joe Tam said:
Joe Tam wrote:

Hi,

I have an early 2011 Macbook Pro and want to know if you can use a minidisplay port to displayport to connect the computer to an NEC PA 271W-BK monitor at full 2560 pixel resolution.

Or will I need to use the dual-link DVI adapter method?

The mini displayport to displayport adapter is $19 vs. dual link adaptor($90).
Click to expand...
Hi Joe ... You will need the NEC 6.6' Mini DisplayPort Male to DisplayPort Male Cable (Black) Mfr# PA-MDP-CABL, which may or may not be included with the Monitor or you can purchase it from B&H. You might ask "PonderosaBob" on this forum thread if he received the NEC PA-MDP-CABL with his recently delivered PA271W-BK from B&H.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/763126-REG/NEC_PA_MDP_CABL_6_6_Mini_DisplayPort_Male.html

Jim
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Hi Joe .... Many MacBook Pro Users were having problems caused by trying to use a mindisplay port to displayport adaptor or a 3rd party Cable and NEC claims that their minidisplay port to displayport Cable is the solution. NEC warns against using a 3rd party minidisplayport to displayport Cable due to possible sub standard specification quality. Don't take a chance on a cheap $19/$20 Adapter.
 
You can get them for about the same price. Better aspect ratio for photo editing with those extra vertical pixels. Much better experience overall. I'd never go to 27" again.
 
Joe Tam said:
Joe Tam wrote:

Anyone use i1 display 2 to calibrate this screen with Spectraview II? I see it is listed as compatible with Spectraview on the necdisplay.com site. I was told here you needed a wide gamut colorimeter and i don't think my i1 display 2(not the pro version) has that capability.

Also, Java SE version 6 needs to be downloaded to run Spectraview II. I've heard a lot about Java vulnerabilities and was wondering if I can delete java after running calibrating with Spectraview for security purposes.

Does Spectraview need to be running at all times or can it be closed after calibration?
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Joe .... I purchased an X-rite i1 Display Pro Colorimeter to use with the Spectraview II software for calibrating the NEC PA271W-BK. Buy dot com is selling the X-rite i1 Display Pro for $215.99 so I called B&H to mention my completed B&H NEC Monitor purchase and they matched the Buy dot com price of $215.99 plus X-rite is offering a $50 Rebate (cut out UPC) if you purchase by 12/31. So your net price for the X-rite i1 Display Pro will be only $165.99 after price matching and rebate applied.

Jim
 
BeachnCruz said:
BeachnCruz wrote:
BeachnCruz said:
Joe Tam wrote:

Anyone use i1 display 2 to calibrate this screen with Spectraview II? I see it is listed as compatible with Spectraview on the necdisplay.com site. I was told here you needed a wide gamut colorimeter and i don't think my i1 display 2(not the pro version) has that capability.

Also, Java SE version 6 needs to be downloaded to run Spectraview II. I've heard a lot about Java vulnerabilities and was wondering if I can delete java after running calibrating with Spectraview for security purposes.

Does Spectraview need to be running at all times or can it be closed after calibration?
Click to expand...
Joe .... I purchased an X-rite i1 Display Pro Colorimeter to use with the Spectraview II software for calibrating the NEC PA271W-BK. Buy dot com is selling the X-rite i1 Display Pro for $215.99 so I called B&H to mention my completed B&H NEC Monitor purchase and they matched the Buy dot com price of $215.99 plus X-rite is offering a $50 Rebate (cut out UPC) if you purchase by 12/31. So your net price for the X-rite i1 Display Pro will be only $165.99 after price matching and rebate applied.

Jim
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Here is a link to a good X-rite i1 Display Pro Colorimeter Demo Video. Watch it in "Full Screen Mode".

X-rite i1 Display Pro Demo Video

Jim
 
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There's some news on the web about these, although if you're in an area of the world where you can get the NEC for a really great price, then that might be a better option.

The only knock against the NEC would probably be the CCFL backlighting being potentially less stable over time than LED, needing some warm up time, and using more power. In practice maybe these matter very little, I don't know.

The new Dell's are interesting because they replace the wide gamut CCFL models with wide gamut LED models. All their other LED displays are standard sRGB, which I'm sure are perfectly fine for lots of users, but if you want that extended gamut, 10 bit display "and" LED backlighting, these will probably outfit you at a more competitive price than other top tier brands.

The 2713H is listed at $999, I don't see a price yet for the 2413, but expect it to be about $500.

A 16:10 24" monitor might be a smart budget choice compared to a 16:9, 27" monitor of similar specification.

The extra height of the 16:10 display puts it not far off a 27" 1200 vs 1440 pixels tall. The 27" is a lot wider, but not much taller, and often it's the extra vertical space you need when dealing with photos.
 
And these monitors are going to offer a writable internal LUT (like NEC, EIZO, and Lacie) and also uniformity compensation (similar to what NEC offers) along with factory calibrated sRGB and AdobeRGB preset modes (which hopefully is executed much better than their U2410 factory calibrated modes).


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Damn. I just unpacked the NEC 27 BK and feeling down when I read about the 2713H. Should I feel bad?


Matsu said:
Matsu wrote:

There's some news on the web about these, although if you're in an area of the world where you can get the NEC for a really great price, then that might be a better option.

The only knock against the NEC would probably be the CCFL backlighting being potentially less stable over time than LED, needing some warm up time, and using more power. In practice maybe these matter very little, I don't know.

The new Dell's are interesting because they replace the wide gamut CCFL models with wide gamut LED models. All their other LED displays are standard sRGB, which I'm sure are perfectly fine for lots of users, but if you want that extended gamut, 10 bit display "and" LED backlighting, these will probably outfit you at a more competitive price than other top tier brands.

The 2713H is listed at $999, I don't see a price yet for the 2413, but expect it to be about $500.

A 16:10 24" monitor might be a smart budget choice compared to a 16:9, 27" monitor of similar specification.

The extra height of the 16:10 display puts it not far off a 27" 1200 vs 1440 pixels tall. The 27" is a lot wider, but not much taller, and often it's the extra vertical space you need when dealing with photos.
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Member said:
NewsyL wrote:

And these monitors are going to offer a writable internal LUT (like NEC, EIZO, and Lacie) and also uniformity compensation (similar to what NEC offers) along with factory calibrated sRGB and AdobeRGB preset modes (which hopefully is executed much better than their U2410 factory calibrated modes).

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