fad
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To say that images (for how are photos any different) cannot tell a story without sequence is silly.
He was of the time when the New Criticism was dominating literary criticism, especially of poetry. Per wiki: It emphasized close reading, particularly of poetry, to discover how a work of literature functioned as a self-contained, self-referential aesthetic object.
I was a follower of it in high school and college. One of my most brilliant teachers said that New Criticism was correct, but only if you already knew everything else. What he was saying, if you think about it, is that is not the correct approach to works of literary art. It is too simplistic and ignores many things that are true about language.
I will explain more later, but you are utterly and completely wrong, as I was when I was 17 about poetry.
Think about this: for many centuries history painting was considered the highest form of art. Landscapes, portraits, still lifes were considered of lesser artistic value.
So ask yourself, what was the relationship of history painting (when not a sequence) to story?
Think about HCB, for instance his photo of a bank run in China. What is its relationship to story?
Think of the photo in question here. One could look upon the scene as one of loneliness, but in reality that is not what it is about in fact, and there is not much in the image that actually supports that interpretation. What could the photographer have done to make that more a story suggested by the photo.
Perhaps the story of this photo is the story of the photographer not making a convincing story out of interesting scene. Perhaps he should have emphasized the surrealistic or mysterious nature of the scene. Perhaps the scene is not that interesting. It is, in fact, very hard to create a good photo out of found items on the street even when they strike you.
He was of the time when the New Criticism was dominating literary criticism, especially of poetry. Per wiki: It emphasized close reading, particularly of poetry, to discover how a work of literature functioned as a self-contained, self-referential aesthetic object.
I was a follower of it in high school and college. One of my most brilliant teachers said that New Criticism was correct, but only if you already knew everything else. What he was saying, if you think about it, is that is not the correct approach to works of literary art. It is too simplistic and ignores many things that are true about language.
I will explain more later, but you are utterly and completely wrong, as I was when I was 17 about poetry.
Think about this: for many centuries history painting was considered the highest form of art. Landscapes, portraits, still lifes were considered of lesser artistic value.
So ask yourself, what was the relationship of history painting (when not a sequence) to story?
Think about HCB, for instance his photo of a bank run in China. What is its relationship to story?
Think of the photo in question here. One could look upon the scene as one of loneliness, but in reality that is not what it is about in fact, and there is not much in the image that actually supports that interpretation. What could the photographer have done to make that more a story suggested by the photo.
Perhaps the story of this photo is the story of the photographer not making a convincing story out of interesting scene. Perhaps he should have emphasized the surrealistic or mysterious nature of the scene. Perhaps the scene is not that interesting. It is, in fact, very hard to create a good photo out of found items on the street even when they strike you.
apaflo wrote:
"I don't have to have any story telling responsibility to what I am photographing. I have a responsibity to describe well -- in fact that's a photograph -- they're mute, they don't have any narrative ability at all, you know what something looked like, but you don't know what's happening ...fad wrote:
It is very difficult to learn to create believable images that tell a story. But there is no alternative.
There isn't a photograph in the world that has any narative ability, any of them.
They do not tell stories, they show you what something looks like, through a camera. The minute you relate this thing to what was photographed, it's a lie. It's two dimensional, it's illusional ..." ~~ Garry Winogrand
Winogrand nailed it. Images that "tell a story" don't, that's the viewer's imagination creating what does not exist. And imagination is absolutely a wonderful and fascinating thing... but really, what one imagines about a photograph should be related to the photograph, not based soley what we had for dinner or some other unrelated experience. That is particularly true when the imaginary story is literally contradicted by what is in the photograph!
Telling a story requires an interval of time. It can be done with two or more photographs, but not with one. That is almost always the distinction between any single image and a well done sequence of images, because the sequence has the additional feature of actually showing what happened as it tells a story.
