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Time-lapse video of D600 sensor dust.
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JeffHallPhoto
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Any chance there is a gap between the lens and body? Funny how it all accumulates in that corner of the sensor and not evenly around the screen. Did they ever remove the lens?
brunobarolo
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Looks like it will be hard to deny the problem now.
halai
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I'll be really surprised if someone say that this is not a problem after seeing this video, and it is our duty to clean the sensor away. But then again, this is your money and if you're happy cleanning Nikon dirty job, then just go right ahead. Glad I returned the D600 and kept my D700 instead.
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I had to clean my sensor after 1000+shot and I've not seen any visible dust after another 300-400 shots. This seems to be affecting certain batches of D600 (mine has 301XXX serial#). Hopefully Nikon can address issue, but I've been very happy with mine (guess i got lucky) 
AshMills
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I don't think there is a major problem with D800/D600 specifically.
Did you see how hard you have to try to get the dust to show that badly?
Of course his D70 with its smaller chip doesn't collect so much visible dust (it has a much smaller area to do so) but I would have liked to see how much his old D70 did have.
My D700s collect dust for a passtime, as do the Canons I use for video- its a symptom of large chips that needs a clever solution to solve for ever- Olympus's method worked well, partly because the chip was so damn small.
But it takes only a few minutes to clean a sensor, people don't complain about cleaning their windscreen on their new car. Oh, maybe they do.
I wish that Canon had managed to get the 6D out, just so people could start bitching about that gathering dust prematurely too.
Thinking laterally - who remembers the ICE system Nikon scanners had for dust/scratches on slide/negs - maybe something like that would help...
Did you see how hard you have to try to get the dust to show that badly?
Of course his D70 with its smaller chip doesn't collect so much visible dust (it has a much smaller area to do so) but I would have liked to see how much his old D70 did have.
My D700s collect dust for a passtime, as do the Canons I use for video- its a symptom of large chips that needs a clever solution to solve for ever- Olympus's method worked well, partly because the chip was so damn small.
But it takes only a few minutes to clean a sensor, people don't complain about cleaning their windscreen on their new car. Oh, maybe they do.
I wish that Canon had managed to get the 6D out, just so people could start bitching about that gathering dust prematurely too.
Thinking laterally - who remembers the ICE system Nikon scanners had for dust/scratches on slide/negs - maybe something like that would help...
If the Canon 6D does not have a misaligned part that rubs against shutter/mirror actuation to cause internal dust from paint or potentially other particles rubbing off, than yes the 6D should fare much better.
Why is it so difficult for Nikon users to understand that yes, the D600 could be the perfect camera *if* it does not have this rather *major* issue of it grinding its own internal parts and accumulating dust? Not only would this concern me in regards to the camera reliability, could you imagine wanting to stick an expensive lens onto it to have it splatter particles onto the rear element as well? I just about *never* have to wet clean a rear element or worry about cleaning it...I'd be PO'd to know my brand new camera was putting me in that situation.
The D800's AF problem which only makes itself known in very particular situations which is only shown because 36MP is a crapload of resolution is absolutely *nothing* compared to this. Save up and get a D800...check the PC port, do a simple check that AF works the way you actually want to use it...you are good to go. Or wait 6+ months on the D600.
Why is it so difficult for Nikon users to understand that yes, the D600 could be the perfect camera *if* it does not have this rather *major* issue of it grinding its own internal parts and accumulating dust? Not only would this concern me in regards to the camera reliability, could you imagine wanting to stick an expensive lens onto it to have it splatter particles onto the rear element as well? I just about *never* have to wet clean a rear element or worry about cleaning it...I'd be PO'd to know my brand new camera was putting me in that situation.
The D800's AF problem which only makes itself known in very particular situations which is only shown because 36MP is a crapload of resolution is absolutely *nothing* compared to this. Save up and get a D800...check the PC port, do a simple check that AF works the way you actually want to use it...you are good to go. Or wait 6+ months on the D600.
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I'm very curious how you came to the conclusion that all the spots are from rubbing parts and not just regular dust or oil? There have been very few reports of any rubbing/scuff marks, and not a single one from a reputable review site, and not a single one that is completely verifiable. Furthermore, many people with the spots do not have any scuff marks.
We all know some D600's were oiled more liberally than others, but this whole parts rubbing/particle thing I don't buy at all, certainly not with the evidence thus far.
Also remember Nikon doesn't seal it's boxes, so just because you bought brand new doesn't mean someone hasn't played with it.
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chlamchowder
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I think the D800 AF problem is far worse. If you use a left focus point and end up with inaccurate focus (even if it's not off by much), the image loses that 'pop' factor. To me, that's far more detrimental than dust spots that are effectively invisible unless you stop down to f/16 and know where to look.
Also, dust/oil can be cleaned off the sensor. Even if you don't know how to clean the sensor, bothersome dust spots in images where you just had to stop the lens down all the way can be removed in post processing.
However, cleaning the D800's AF module won't solve the left focus problem. AF micro adjust won't either, since you can't calibrate different sides of the AF module separately. When post processing images, there's no way you can retrieve detail you didn't capture because the subject was out of focus.
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