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Hi Tricia,

thanks! Did not know that. about colour life.

I get the same result from the Ilford Printasia Photo Glossy paper. ;-( So I guess that goes into my 1290 S

Luster - hmm - maybe the "pro shops" got it.

best

Kasper
Tricia said:
Kasper Larsen said:
Epson Colorlife
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Er, Kasper - the Colorlife papers are not for Ultrachrome ink - the
ink won't dry and you'll get roller marks on your print, then
you'll have to clean the rollers. This is the only
non-recommended-for-pigment-ink Epson paper that I know about.
Tricia said:
Epson Luster
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Now this paper is my favorite with the PhotoBlack ink - I hope you
can find it!

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Tricia
Minolta Dimage D7(UG), Epson 2200, PS7, Qimage
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yes - let go get some pictures to print ;-)

The other thing takes some time - and I know more in a month or two ;-)

best

Kasper
Richard Fisher said:
Interesting idea -- (profiles to reflect future colors due to
fading versus current colors prior to fading). Of course that begs
the question at what temporal point do you profile? Or is there
some sort of "maximum liking" profile that, while not the best at
any point in time, provide the best match/true colors over an
extended period of time?

This is a very interesting challenge; not only to determine the
fade curve as a function of time (and storage conditions) but also
how the interaction between colors influences the fading rate. Of
course the difference between machinereading and perception of
color needs to be taken into account, perhaps via Thurstonian model?
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Kasper,

I tried 3 bw prints using your profile for matte paper last night, I checked them this morning under natual light and the result is indeed outstanding. I was able to get quite netural bw at 1440 dpi using epson printer driver controlled ICM (with standard espon matte profile), but the print was a bit darker. Your profile matches my monitor better, and shows definitely better highlight and shadow detail. Under sunlight, the print is very netural. (Haven't checked under other lighting).

Cannot wait to try color print on epson premium luster paper (getting a bit greedy here:-))

Many thanks for sharing the profile with us.
Kasper Larsen said:
archival matte 2880 ICC Matte Black profile is online now. Looks
really good! (in my eyes anyway)

best

Kasper
Kasper Larsen said:
Hi Guys,

I got my GretagMacbeth EyeOne Photo last night, and you can
download a few profiles from my website for the P2100 (so far)

download here:
http://www.klarisma.com/photo/

The Profiles so far are for the following Epson paper:
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Premium Photo Glossy Paper
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Matte Heavy Weight

Both are made with Photo Black T0341 cartridge. (Matte cart.
profiles later..)

Please give me some feedback.. ;-) I got the 2100, 1290 and a HP
multifunction inkjet (155dx) for which i'll make some profiles.

Best

Kasper
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thanks ;-)

I'm currently working on a tool license that will help me optimze even better! ;-) So watch out for a new version of the Archival/Enchanced Matte any time now. Just remember that AM/EM is made for 2880 dpi! (there are variations in color between 1440 and 2880! - Delta E about 11-25 between 1440 and 2880 - normal Delta E on my profiles is average about 0,1 to 0,2) I discard the messurements if they are worse than Delta E 0,2.

Luster paper... i wish i knew where to get it.. ;-)

best

Kasper
realq said:
I tried 3 bw prints using your profile for matte paper last night,
I checked them this morning under natual light and the result is
indeed outstanding. I was able to get quite netural bw at 1440 dpi
using epson printer driver controlled ICM (with standard espon
matte profile), but the print was a bit darker. Your profile
matches my monitor better, and shows definitely better highlight
and shadow detail. Under sunlight, the print is very netural.
(Haven't checked under other lighting).

Cannot wait to try color print on epson premium luster paper
(getting a bit greedy here:-))

Many thanks for sharing the profile with us.
Kasper Larsen said:
archival matte 2880 ICC Matte Black profile is online now. Looks
really good! (in my eyes anyway)

best

Kasper
Kasper Larsen said:
Hi Guys,

I got my GretagMacbeth EyeOne Photo last night, and you can
download a few profiles from my website for the P2100 (so far)

download here:
http://www.klarisma.com/photo/

The Profiles so far are for the following Epson paper:
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Premium Photo Glossy Paper
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Matte Heavy Weight

Both are made with Photo Black T0341 cartridge. (Matte cart.
profiles later..)

Please give me some feedback.. ;-) I got the 2100, 1290 and a HP
multifunction inkjet (155dx) for which i'll make some profiles.

Best

Kasper
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I intent to ask you the color variations between 1440 and 2880dpi. You confirmed my suspicious that the variation is quite big, as I got bad result with epson profile at 2880, and better at 1440. Your matte proflie at 2880 is definitely much better for my printer (for bw , haven't tried color yet). I don't understand why epson does not clearly state what dpi are recommended for their profile.

epson premium luster is very popular here in the states, may be it is called lustre on the your side?

I'll report back my test results when I tried your other profiles (semi-gloss later this week)

Thanks again for sharing.
Kasper Larsen said:
I'm currently working on a tool license that will help me optimze
even better! ;-) So watch out for a new version of the
Archival/Enchanced Matte any time now. Just remember that AM/EM is
made for 2880 dpi! (there are variations in color between 1440 and
2880! - Delta E about 11-25 between 1440 and 2880 - normal Delta E
on my profiles is average about 0,1 to 0,2) I discard the
messurements if they are worse than Delta E 0,2.

Luster paper... i wish i knew where to get it.. ;-)

best

Kasper
realq said:
I tried 3 bw prints using your profile for matte paper last night,
I checked them this morning under natual light and the result is
indeed outstanding. I was able to get quite netural bw at 1440 dpi
using epson printer driver controlled ICM (with standard espon
matte profile), but the print was a bit darker. Your profile
matches my monitor better, and shows definitely better highlight
and shadow detail. Under sunlight, the print is very netural.
(Haven't checked under other lighting).

Cannot wait to try color print on epson premium luster paper
(getting a bit greedy here:-))

Many thanks for sharing the profile with us.
Kasper Larsen said:
archival matte 2880 ICC Matte Black profile is online now. Looks
really good! (in my eyes anyway)

best

Kasper
Kasper Larsen said:
Hi Guys,

I got my GretagMacbeth EyeOne Photo last night, and you can
download a few profiles from my website for the P2100 (so far)

download here:
http://www.klarisma.com/photo/

The Profiles so far are for the following Epson paper:
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Premium Photo Glossy Paper
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Matte Heavy Weight

Both are made with Photo Black T0341 cartridge. (Matte cart.
profiles later..)

Please give me some feedback.. ;-) I got the 2100, 1290 and a HP
multifunction inkjet (155dx) for which i'll make some profiles.

Best

Kasper
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Does the Eye One license allow you to distribute profiles you've created? I understand some profile packages do not allow you to do this.

Deven
 
I do think you can use them.

I'm checking the difference at the moment.

best

Kasper
Alan Wants to Know said:
Thank you for providing the link to your free icc profiles. I
think those profiles will be very useful for people like me. I am
in the process of buying an Espon 2200 here in Toronto, Canada as
it is very hard to find here. I have a question however. Could I
use the profiles for the 2100 with the 2200? I think these
printers are the same. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thank you!
Kasper Larsen said:
I do some work here for free - and if you dont want to try them -
then it is fine for me - I don't expect anything.

But if someone was to comment on the profiles - I'll try to correct
them - and give them away for free in a better version - and the
only cost was a $1 or so for a print you might would have done
anyway - and I promise you - the ICC profile is not bad in the
current version - and is a lot betten than a printer only with a
standard Epson ICC profile.

I admit theese profiles are not yet comparable to Cathy's yet - but
I do think that the next profile will have Delta error values
comparable to Cathy's.

Watch the website for "large" format ICC profiles. ;-)

Why do I give them away? Well - for the printers and paper I have
and use - I'll publish the profiles I use for free, since I've done
them anyway. I won't do profiles for other printers than the ones I
own for free (at the moment...) ;-)

Best

Kasper
Phil Rose said:
Kasper Larsen said:
Hi Guys,

I got my GretagMacbeth EyeOne Photo last night, and you can
download a few profiles from my website for the P2100 (so far)

download here:
http://www.klarisma.com/photo/

The Profiles so far are for the following Epson paper:
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Premium Photo Glossy Paper
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Matte Heavy Weight

Both are made with Photo Black T0341 cartridge. (Matte cart.
profiles later..)

Please give me some feedback.. ;-) I got the 2100, 1290 and a HP
multifunction inkjet (155dx) for which i'll make some profiles.

Best

Kasper
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Do not own a digital camera.
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Well EPSON has tagged their profile with the following description :

"Premium Semigloss 1440 x 720 Error Diffusion Version 1.00"

So not really a 2880 profile is it? ;-) Well I have not tried any of the new ICC profiles.

Epson Gammut test
Single Precision(8 bit) Multi-Function Lookup Table
3 input channels, 1 output channels
17 CLUT grid points

My Gammut
Double Precision(16 bit) Multi-Function Lookup Table
3 input channels, 1 output channels
25 CLUT grid points

best

Kasper
realq said:
epson premium luster is very popular here in the states, may be it
is called lustre on the your side?

I'll report back my test results when I tried your other profiles
(semi-gloss later this week)

Thanks again for sharing.
Kasper Larsen said:
I'm currently working on a tool license that will help me optimze
even better! ;-) So watch out for a new version of the
Archival/Enchanced Matte any time now. Just remember that AM/EM is
made for 2880 dpi! (there are variations in color between 1440 and
2880! - Delta E about 11-25 between 1440 and 2880 - normal Delta E
on my profiles is average about 0,1 to 0,2) I discard the
messurements if they are worse than Delta E 0,2.

Luster paper... i wish i knew where to get it.. ;-)

best

Kasper
realq said:
I tried 3 bw prints using your profile for matte paper last night,
I checked them this morning under natual light and the result is
indeed outstanding. I was able to get quite netural bw at 1440 dpi
using epson printer driver controlled ICM (with standard espon
matte profile), but the print was a bit darker. Your profile
matches my monitor better, and shows definitely better highlight
and shadow detail. Under sunlight, the print is very netural.
(Haven't checked under other lighting).

Cannot wait to try color print on epson premium luster paper
(getting a bit greedy here:-))

Many thanks for sharing the profile with us.
Kasper Larsen said:
archival matte 2880 ICC Matte Black profile is online now. Looks
really good! (in my eyes anyway)

best

Kasper
Kasper Larsen said:
Hi Guys,

I got my GretagMacbeth EyeOne Photo last night, and you can
download a few profiles from my website for the P2100 (so far)

download here:
http://www.klarisma.com/photo/

The Profiles so far are for the following Epson paper:
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Premium Photo Glossy Paper
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Matte Heavy Weight

Both are made with Photo Black T0341 cartridge. (Matte cart.
profiles later..)

Please give me some feedback.. ;-) I got the 2100, 1290 and a HP
multifunction inkjet (155dx) for which i'll make some profiles.

Best

Kasper
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I took a more closed look at three bw prints I made two nights ago with your profile (matte 2880) and epson's (1440). Yours shows better highlight deeper black. However on two of the prints that have contast patterns like dark color flowers over white cloth, there is a little bit red warm tint around those patterns. No color cast on the other areas and none at all on the thrid print which has no contast patterns. Did you notice tint any in your print?
Kasper Larsen said:
"Premium Semigloss 1440 x 720 Error Diffusion Version 1.00"

So not really a 2880 profile is it? ;-) Well I have not tried any
of the new ICC profiles.

Epson Gammut test
Single Precision(8 bit) Multi-Function Lookup Table
3 input channels, 1 output channels
17 CLUT grid points

My Gammut
Double Precision(16 bit) Multi-Function Lookup Table
3 input channels, 1 output channels
25 CLUT grid points

best

Kasper
realq said:
epson premium luster is very popular here in the states, may be it
is called lustre on the your side?

I'll report back my test results when I tried your other profiles
(semi-gloss later this week)

Thanks again for sharing.
Kasper Larsen said:
I'm currently working on a tool license that will help me optimze
even better! ;-) So watch out for a new version of the
Archival/Enchanced Matte any time now. Just remember that AM/EM is
made for 2880 dpi! (there are variations in color between 1440 and
2880! - Delta E about 11-25 between 1440 and 2880 - normal Delta E
on my profiles is average about 0,1 to 0,2) I discard the
messurements if they are worse than Delta E 0,2.

Luster paper... i wish i knew where to get it.. ;-)

best

Kasper
realq said:
I tried 3 bw prints using your profile for matte paper last night,
I checked them this morning under natual light and the result is
indeed outstanding. I was able to get quite netural bw at 1440 dpi
using epson printer driver controlled ICM (with standard espon
matte profile), but the print was a bit darker. Your profile
matches my monitor better, and shows definitely better highlight
and shadow detail. Under sunlight, the print is very netural.
(Haven't checked under other lighting).

Cannot wait to try color print on epson premium luster paper
(getting a bit greedy here:-))

Many thanks for sharing the profile with us.
Kasper Larsen said:
archival matte 2880 ICC Matte Black profile is online now. Looks
really good! (in my eyes anyway)

best

Kasper
Kasper Larsen said:
Hi Guys,

I got my GretagMacbeth EyeOne Photo last night, and you can
download a few profiles from my website for the P2100 (so far)

download here:
http://www.klarisma.com/photo/

The Profiles so far are for the following Epson paper:
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Premium Photo Glossy Paper
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Matte Heavy Weight

Both are made with Photo Black T0341 cartridge. (Matte cart.
profiles later..)

Please give me some feedback.. ;-) I got the 2100, 1290 and a HP
multifunction inkjet (155dx) for which i'll make some profiles.

Best

Kasper
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Hi Deven,

Yes - EyeOne (and ProfileMaker) allows distribution of profiles. (Both for money and for free)

You are also allowed to install the software on multiple machines - and profile their displays - with only one software license.

But you are not allowed to bundle profiles made with EyeOne with paper, printers and other of the likes.

best

Kasper
DevenH said:
Does the Eye One license allow you to distribute profiles you've
created? I understand some profile packages do not allow you to do
this.

Deven
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hmm - as said - i'm not 100% happy with the Enhanced Matte profile anyway (yet). Look at my other thread of paper compare - where I compare Enhanced Matte with Semigloss Photo paper.

It seems like either the paper or the colors fade at diffrent speeds very quickly after print-time. So now i'm trying to figure out when fading is "complete" - 24 hours was not enough to complete the fading.

I do have another profile (v. 1.05) of enhanced matte - made after some fading.... But I'm not happy with that either.

Best

Kasper
realq said:
Kasper Larsen said:
"Premium Semigloss 1440 x 720 Error Diffusion Version 1.00"

So not really a 2880 profile is it? ;-) Well I have not tried any
of the new ICC profiles.

Epson Gammut test
Single Precision(8 bit) Multi-Function Lookup Table
3 input channels, 1 output channels
17 CLUT grid points

My Gammut
Double Precision(16 bit) Multi-Function Lookup Table
3 input channels, 1 output channels
25 CLUT grid points

best

Kasper
realq said:
epson premium luster is very popular here in the states, may be it
is called lustre on the your side?

I'll report back my test results when I tried your other profiles
(semi-gloss later this week)

Thanks again for sharing.
Kasper Larsen said:
I'm currently working on a tool license that will help me optimze
even better! ;-) So watch out for a new version of the
Archival/Enchanced Matte any time now. Just remember that AM/EM is
made for 2880 dpi! (there are variations in color between 1440 and
2880! - Delta E about 11-25 between 1440 and 2880 - normal Delta E
on my profiles is average about 0,1 to 0,2) I discard the
messurements if they are worse than Delta E 0,2.

Luster paper... i wish i knew where to get it.. ;-)

best

Kasper
realq said:
I tried 3 bw prints using your profile for matte paper last night,
I checked them this morning under natual light and the result is
indeed outstanding. I was able to get quite netural bw at 1440 dpi
using epson printer driver controlled ICM (with standard espon
matte profile), but the print was a bit darker. Your profile
matches my monitor better, and shows definitely better highlight
and shadow detail. Under sunlight, the print is very netural.
(Haven't checked under other lighting).

Cannot wait to try color print on epson premium luster paper
(getting a bit greedy here:-))

Many thanks for sharing the profile with us.
Kasper Larsen said:
archival matte 2880 ICC Matte Black profile is online now. Looks
really good! (in my eyes anyway)

best

Kasper
Kasper Larsen said:
Hi Guys,

I got my GretagMacbeth EyeOne Photo last night, and you can
download a few profiles from my website for the P2100 (so far)

download here:
http://www.klarisma.com/photo/

The Profiles so far are for the following Epson paper:
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Premium Photo Glossy Paper
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Matte Heavy Weight

Both are made with Photo Black T0341 cartridge. (Matte cart.
profiles later..)

Please give me some feedback.. ;-) I got the 2100, 1290 and a HP
multifunction inkjet (155dx) for which i'll make some profiles.

Best

Kasper
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Kasper Larsen said:
...Normal Delta E on my profiles is average about 0,1 to 0,2.
I discard the messurements if they are worse than Delta E 0,2....
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Hi Kasper,

you did great job. Some days ago I have updated my EyeOne Pro to EyeOne Photo too. In this connection I have a question: how did you measured Delta E ? Betwenn printed output with profile installed in Photoshop and reference file supplied with EyeOne ? If so, how did you transfered values from reference tif file to EyeOne Share ?
Best regards.
,
Sergey.
 
Delta E is meassured via the Meassure Tool in Profile Maker 4.1.1.

Meassure Tool have a compare function - and since each test chart is "scanned" at least 3 times - the differenct scans are compared in MeassureTool. If the Delta E is to high - the scan is "disgarded"

best

Kasper
SSD said:
Kasper Larsen said:
...Normal Delta E on my profiles is average about 0,1 to 0,2.
I discard the messurements if they are worse than Delta E 0,2....
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Hi Kasper,
you did great job. Some days ago I have updated my EyeOne Pro to
EyeOne Photo too. In this connection I have a question: how did you
measured Delta E ? Betwenn printed output with profile installed in
Photoshop and reference file supplied with EyeOne ? If so, how did
you transfered values from reference tif file to EyeOne Share ?
Best regards.
,
Sergey.
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Kasper Larsen said:
Hi Guys,

I got my GretagMacbeth EyeOne Photo last night, and you can
download a few profiles from my website for the P2100 (so far)

download here:
http://www.klarisma.com/photo/

The Profiles so far are for the following Epson paper:
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Premium Photo Glossy Paper
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Matte Heavy Weight

Both are made with Photo Black T0341 cartridge. (Matte cart.
profiles later..)

Please give me some feedback.. ;-) I got the 2100, 1290 and a HP
multifunction inkjet (155dx) for which i'll make some profiles.

Best

Kasper
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Kasper, first of all let me say THANK YOU!! I just tried your Premium Semigloss 2880 profile on my 2200 and for the first time ever, I got a dead on match to my monitor. I have been struggling with this for a while and your generosity has helped me a great deal! Thanks again and keep up the good work!
Kasper Larsen said:
Hi Guys,

I got my GretagMacbeth EyeOne Photo last night, and you can
download a few profiles from my website for the P2100 (so far)

download here:
http://www.klarisma.com/photo/

The Profiles so far are for the following Epson paper:
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Premium Photo Glossy Paper
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Matte Heavy Weight

Both are made with Photo Black T0341 cartridge. (Matte cart.
profiles later..)

Please give me some feedback.. ;-) I got the 2100, 1290 and a HP
multifunction inkjet (155dx) for which i'll make some profiles.

Best

Kasper
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after looking closely at one of my prints, the whites seem a little muted on paper as opposed to the screen. I am not sure if this is my monitor or the profile, but it is the closest I have come yet! Thanks again...
pobodysnerfect said:
Kasper, first of all let me say THANK YOU!! I just tried your
Premium Semigloss 2880 profile on my 2200 and for the first time
ever, I got a dead on match to my monitor. I have been struggling
with this for a while and your generosity has helped me a great
deal! Thanks again and keep up the good work!
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Hi fb ;-)

nope - I don't have any canon printers so - unfortunatly not.

Epson 1290 profiles are next in line.

;-)

best

Kasper
Fatbloke said:
Kasper Larsen said:
Hi Guys,

I got my GretagMacbeth EyeOne Photo last night, and you can
download a few profiles from my website for the P2100 (so far)

download here:
http://www.klarisma.com/photo/

The Profiles so far are for the following Epson paper:
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Premium Photo Glossy Paper
EPSON Stylus Photo 2100 Matte Heavy Weight

Both are made with Photo Black T0341 cartridge. (Matte cart.
profiles later..)

Please give me some feedback.. ;-) I got the 2100, 1290 and a HP
multifunction inkjet (155dx) for which i'll make some profiles.

Best

Kasper
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