For Those Who Are Doubtful of a D300s Replacement

Well when you get into comparing RAW and go to 1600 ASA, you will find that the Pentax is quite a bit sharper with less noise ...
Have been looking at the K5IIs and some samples you can get on the Pentax forum are simply mindboggling.
In case you are wondering: I have been using Nikon since 1986 and currently use a D300s. But can see the 7D as well as the D7000 and the K5 quite a few miles ahead now of the D300(s).
Met a guy with a K5 and the 77mm Limited Edition lens, thought that was actually very, very nice, not enough, you are right about that, to change a whole system, but nevertheless impressive!
Not even close to enough reason to sell thousands of dollars worth of equipment for a minimal gain in performance.
 
The Pentax K5 line is to me quite an attractive looking alternative to my D300s. Just not sure how the AF system compares with the Nikons. The next 'pro' edition of Nikon's Dx model (if there is one) will determine if I stay with with them or switch to a different brand. I already stopped planning with Nikon lenses for quite a while. The Pentax 5KIIs caught my attention. Some of the Pentax 'limited' primes have a good reputation too.
 
pavi1 wrote:
Gazeomon wrote:
pavi1 wrote:
rusticus wrote:

Gives the DX Pro camera but it already: The Pentax K-5.
She's built like a tank - is weatherproof with the WR lenses - very good Limited lenses are on offer - The sensor is awesome, etc. - what more could you want - Pentax K-5: A professional DX for life
The Pentax K-5 beats the D300S at nothing. Only a dimwit would switch systems, Nikon to Pentax or Pentax to Nikon based on these two cameras.
 
deednets wrote:
The Pentax K5 line is to me quite an attractive looking alternative to my D300s. Just not sure how the AF system compares with the Nikons. The next 'pro' edition of Nikon's Dx model (if there is one) will determine if I stay with with them or switch to a different brand. I already stopped planning with Nikon lenses for quite a while. The Pentax 5KIIs caught my attention. Some of the Pentax 'limited' primes have a good reputation too.
 
JimPearce wrote:

And it isn't even released yet. I'm dreaming of an 800 f5.6. I can't see many wildlife shooters being tempted.
 
I believe there will be a semi professional DX camera. There are room for it. I don't believe in two bodies. Only one. Many have moved on as FX cameras has come down in price, but I still see a market for one model above the new D5200 and off cause it needs to have better features than that model: http://www.photospots.dk/2012/11/what-to-expect-from-replacement-of.html
 
JimPearce wrote:

Most facts have a conventional component. Yes, it's true that Nikon may have marketing and other motives in calling one camera the successor of another. But Nikon said no such thing about the D7000 in relation to the D300/s, and for various reasons would deny it. But you stubbornly insist that the D7000 is an $1199 camera because Nikon says so, when it is quite clear that the camera sells for $999. It seems you like to have your cake and eat it too.
The price point of a camera so far as the manufacturer is concerned is the MSRP, which in the case of the D7100 is $1199. The D7000 is two years old now, and the street price of all cameras relaxes as they are in the market longer. When they are replaced, it is not at the current street price, it is back to the mSRP, otherwise there would be no point updating them, just let the price sag. Updates are all about maintaining the income by supporting sagging prices.

Anyhow, there are many of this forum who insist that the D300s is a 'pro' camera because Nikon says so, when it is quite clear that few if any professionals still buy the camera.
 
I know a few pros who still shoot a D300, but none who have bought a new one recently. But then I dion't know any amateurs who have bought a new one recently either. Could that have something to do with the fact that it's five years old?

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Jim
 
JimPearce wrote:

I know a few pros who still shoot a D300, but none who have bought a new one recently. But then I dion't know any amateurs who have bought a new one recently either. Could that have something to do with the fact that it's five years old?
Could the fact that the D7000 no longer commands its MRSP be to do with the fact that it is over two years old?
 
Nikon is still selling boatloads of D7000s and are getting a $100 premium over the Canon EOS 60 D ($999 MSRP, $899 street). I see no reason for Nikon to update the D7000 at this time as it appears that Canon is not about to update the EOS 60D. If they were to update the D7000, I wouldn't be surprised to see a mild refresh with 24 MP, 6 fps and a $1099 price point.

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Jim
 
Bob wrote

For Nikon the D7000 was an early merger of the two top lines,
Possibly an unintentional merging of the two lines. The D400 may have been out a year ago if it was not for the earthquake in Japan and floods in Taiwan.
 
The conclusion is simple, if you consider all Canon rumors and not just the once that you like.

1. rumor: Canon wíll replace 60D and 7D with one camera

2.rumor: 7DII will get a new name and not be called 7DII

For me it is obvious that this only makes sense if rumor 1 is also true.
 
Canon won´t update the 60D, as they will repalce the 60D and the 7D with one new camera. So I expect Nikon to do the same to the D7000 and D300.

So I expect Canon wioth a new DX DSLR for around 1400$, same as Nikon.
 
JimPearce wrote:

Nikon is still selling boatloads of D7000s and are getting a $100 premium over the Canon EOS 60 D ($999 MSRP, $899 street). I see no reason for Nikon to update the D7000 at this time as it appears that Canon is not about to update the EOS 60D. If they were to update the D7000, I wouldn't be surprised to see a mild refresh with 24 MP, 6 fps and a $1099 price point.
The same could have been said about the D5100 and D3100. Nikon will have a roadmap of development and replace when they are ready, not in reaction to current sales (it takes a long tome to develop a camera). The aim of that update will be to get the camera back to the set price point ($1200) or a new one a bit higher (as high as $1500).
 
TOF guy wrote:
Bob wrote

For Nikon the D7000 was an early merger of the two top lines,
Possibly an unintentional merging of the two lines. The D400 may have been out a year ago if it was not for the earthquake in Japan and floods in Taiwan.
I don't think so, I think the D7000 was first visibility of an intentional merger. A new camera placed squarely between the D90 and D300s, with both of them officially continuing. Note that Nikon didn't leave room for a D90 successor in their new number scheme. While they have room for a D300s successor, I don't see one coming - otherwise the D7000 wouldn't have made a whole load of sense.
 
seahawk wrote:

The conclusion is simple, if you consider all Canon rumors and not just the once that you like.

1. rumor: Canon wíll replace 60D and 7D with one camera

2.rumor: 7DII will get a new name and not be called 7DII

For me it is obvious that this only makes sense if rumor 1 is also true.
Well, I don't know what other rumors you are looking at or how old they are. I haven't seen a rumor stating that the 60d and 7d will be combined. I was talking about the one that Jim has linked in this thread, which is what I thought you were talking about. I don't normally read the canon forum or the canon rumor site, so I'm only familiar with Jim's link.

I don't see why Canon would have to replace both with one camera, just to change the naming convention of the 7d. I agree that it would make sense to change the name, if they did merge both lines, but I don't see why they would do that, unless they have many more cameras in their consumer lineup than does Nikon. I don't know how many models they offer, but I'd expect them to at least match Nikon's line.


Even so, I believe that you'll get the d7100 that you want, regardless as to what the Canon rumors say and regardless as to whether or not they make a d400.

Kerry
 
Bob

I don't think so, I think the D7000 was first visibility of an intentional merger. A new camera placed squarely between the D90 and D300s, with both of them officially continuing. Note that Nikon didn't leave room for a D90 successor in their new number scheme. While they have room for a D300s successor, I don't see one coming - otherwise the D7000 wouldn't have made a whole load of sense.
Seems plausible. IMO we'll know for sure by September 2013. The D300 line is definitely gone if the D400 is not out by then. Or maybe the D600 is its successor , at least price wise.
 

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