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For Those Who Are Doubtful of a D300s Replacement
- Thread starter Sameer Thawani
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The important part is not that there will be a new camera, but that the new camera won´t be called 7dII and that it will replace the 60D and the 7d. Which some people have been saying could be the same plan for Nikon with the D700 and D300. So this rumour actually suggests that there won´t be a D400.
bobn2
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You are speculating about the speculation.
If the camera is better than the D300/s in every way, should I be disappointed if they don't call it a D400? Anyway, the current rumor doesn't mention the 60D. I expect the D7000 to remain on the market for some time, just as the D90 did.
thomas2279f
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The 7d may be dropped and the upgrade may only be a updated 60d ? - no reliable rumours or specs of the 7d...
Agree. As I say earlier, Nikon&Canon work neck and neck. At a higher level (future strategy, product table guidelines) he has agreement. If 7D II announced ir Feb/March with sell dates in April, D400 will be anounced in April and sell in same week
Kerry Pierce
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Wow, I don't know how you came to these conclusions from that link. It only said that the 7dII will be announced in Mar/Feb and may have a different naming convention. It said nothing about the 60d, certainly not that it would be replaced by the 7dII.
This marketing plan makes perfect sense. Announce high priced camera and sell it for a while, without mentioning lower level camera. 6 months later, or whenever they've milked the 7dII for all the cream, they announce the 60d replacement. That's the way Nikon has traditionally done it and is the way I'd expect them to do it again.
I see no reason to believe that the d400, at $1800 US wouldn't be announced/sold first and then maybe 6 months later the d7100 is announced/sold at $1300 or $1400 US. I see no reason to believe that they can't sell both models and make handsome profits on both. You want a d7100 with good video. Just be patient, man, it's coming. The d400 has no real effect on that market segment and I'd expect it to outsell the d400, just as it does now. The price difference will guarantee that.
Keep in mind that Nikon has at least 14 new Coolpix models announced this year. That certainly demonstrates that they aren't afraid of having too many models or having their models close together in pricing. I see no reason to believe that they can't support 4 or 5 DX models, if they wanted to do so.
jonrobertp
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If cost is not a big deal, (it usually is.)...but if Canon is the only one to make a good/better/best new crop slr, then....how long must one wait before simply going to Canon...get one or 2 lenses...and smile all the way down the driveway ??
It's been done before...many times.
It's been done before...many times.
what i can't get is why do we think Nikon or even canon would create a new class of camera in the D7000 and 60D then stop it after one camera.
i can't see them merging the 2 top line DX cameras at the moment
i can say i getting impatient with waiting it's almost goodbye to this forum to get a d7000 and join that consumer class lol
i can't see them merging the 2 top line DX cameras at the moment
i can say i getting impatient with waiting it's almost goodbye to this forum to get a d7000 and join that consumer class lol
bobn2
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I think things are different for Canon and Nikon. Up until the 50D Canon's top line APS-C was similar to the D7000 (though not as powerful a camera). The 7D beefed it up a bit in response to the D300, which clearly outclassed the 50D. The 60D was then moved down so as not to crowd the 7D, but this hasn't worked very well for Canon, with the 60D not selling too well. It seems quite likely I think that they will go back to one model there, and I think the speculation of a super-duper 10FPS monster with 61 point AF are probably wide of the mark. I would expect the new camera to be downpriced from the 7D to merge the two lines again, and will probably be called a 7D MkII, or maybe a 7D X (X being 'crossover' in Canon speak).
For Nikon the D7000 was an early merger of the two top lines, in effect it replaced both the D90 and D300s, though both remained in the catalogue, not selling very fast. This can be seen as a transitional kind of strategy, with the next camera in the line clearly merging the two lines.
They already have, in effect. They just kept the two merged lines in the catalogue, but neither the D90 nor D300s will be replaced.
bobn2
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Most facts have a conventional component. Yes, it's true that Nikon may have marketing and other motives in calling one camera the successor of another. But Nikon said no such thing about the D7000 in relation to the D300/s, and for various reasons would deny it. But you stubbornly insist that the D7000 is an $1199 camera because Nikon says so, when it is quite clear that the camera sells for $999. It seems you like to have your cake and eat it too.
rusticus
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Gives the DX Pro camera but it already: The Pentax K-5.
She's built like a tank - is weatherproof with the WR lenses - very good Limited lenses are on offer - The sensor is awesome, etc. - what more could you want - Pentax K-5: A professional DX for life
She's built like a tank - is weatherproof with the WR lenses - very good Limited lenses are on offer - The sensor is awesome, etc. - what more could you want - Pentax K-5: A professional DX for life
D300SandV1shooter
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Same thing Country Joe & The Fish asked for back in the 60s - "Gimme an F(-mount)!"
Gazeomon
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The Pentax K5 line is to me quite an attractive looking alternative to my D300s. Just not sure how the AF system compares with the Nikons. The next 'pro' edition of Nikon's Dx model (if there is one) will determine if I stay with with them or switch to a different brand. I already stopped planning with Nikon lenses for quite a while. The Pentax 5KIIs caught my attention. Some of the Pentax 'limited' primes have a good reputation too.
pavi1
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The Pentax K-5 beats the D300S at nothing. Only a dimwit would switch systems, Nikon to Pentax or Pentax to Nikon based on these two cameras.
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