The price dropped out for the F770 so I got one. . .

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. . . for ¥14,800.

Am impressed so far




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Thank you for your kind words. And I agree, the F series is way under appreciated (having had the F11 and F200, with both my wife and mother still using the F70).
 
rube39 wrote:

Thank you for your kind words. And I agree, the F series is way under appreciated (having had the F11 and F200, with both my wife and mother still using the F70).
 
Nice shots! The one of construction at full zoom is a bit noisy in the grays for ISO 100, but the others are commendable.

Did you decide -.33 EV is the way to go? I am still undecided on whether to shoot that way, or uncompensated, most of the time. Whereas on the F550, -.33 EV was clearly best.
 
CAcreeks wrote:

Nice shots! The one of construction at full zoom is a bit noisy in the grays for ISO 100, but the others are commendable.



Thanks. Whats a little noise at full tele shot thru a window? GRIN
Did you decide -.33 EV is the way to go? I am still undecided on whether to shoot that way, or uncompensated, most of the time. Whereas on the F550, -.33 EV was clearly best.



Not really, and I know that there is a debate. Right now I am just trying it out.
 
rube39 wrote:
Did you decide -.33 EV is the way to go? I am still undecided on whether to shoot that way, or uncompensated, most of the time. Whereas on the F550, -.33 EV was clearly best.
Not really, and I know that there is a debate. Right now I am just trying it out.
I think the main reason for using -.33 EV on the F550 was that the lens had a lot of veiling glare, which underexpose helped reduce.

My F750 (and probably your F770) has better lens coatings and seems less flare-prone, so 0 EV usually works fine.
 
CAcreeks wrote:
rube39 wrote:
Did you decide -.33 EV is the way to go? I am still undecided on whether to shoot that way, or uncompensated, most of the time. Whereas on the F550, -.33 EV was clearly best.
Not really, and I know that there is a debate. Right now I am just trying it out.
I think the main reason for using -.33 EV on the F550 was that the lens had a lot of veiling glare, which underexpose helped reduce.

My F750 (and probably your F770) has better lens coatings and seems less flare-prone, so 0 EV usually works fine.
Would you recommend using the F770 in 8mp mode all the time, at 0EV and using AUTO DR or dialing in the amount you thought was needed in each situation. I have also seen the F770 on sale price in Brisbane and it caught my interest.

Brian
 
brianj wrote:

Would you recommend using the F770 in 8mp mode all the time, at 0EV and using AUTO DR or dialing in the amount you thought was needed in each situation. I have also seen the F770 on sale price in Brisbane and it caught my interest.
Seems to work well most of the time with KimL's settings, which is to say
  • M (medium size) to get hardware DR 400%
  • standard (Provia) color, maybe Astia for overcast weather
  • Auto ISO 1600 or 3200, your choice
  • JPEG Fine
Sunset mode is useful for, you guessed it, sunsets. Panorama mode works well if you keep it straight while panning. Movies are good quality at 720p30 if you avoid zooming or zoom slowly.

Pop-up the flash when you need it - perfect arrangement!

I found it easier to compose at full telephoto (600mm equivalent) after setting Dual IS Mode = Continuous.
 
in close the cam shines ..as subject matter recedes ..so does IQ..BUT its a very very handy little cam. I carry one with me when shooting my DSLR.
 
brianj wrote:
Would you recommend using the F770 in 8mp mode all the time, at 0EV and using AUTO DR or dialing in the amount you thought was needed in each situation. I have also seen the F770 on sale price in Brisbane and it caught my interest.
I have been shooting in RAW, processing in LR4. Kim L finally recommend doing the same. In auto ISO I find even the 800 ISO shots quite nice. My only 'regret' is that the RAW shots come to 25mgs!

I have shot some with Kim L's older settings, and liked the results for the most part, so go ahead and try it that way, but RAW does give you a bit more leeway. Finally, for the most part there is not much difference between the RAW and settings refined jpegs on MOST shots, but not all of them. Sometimes the RAW wins, never the jpeg.
 
painterdude wrote:

in close the cam shines ..as subject matter recedes ..so does IQ..BUT its a very very handy little cam. I carry one with me when shooting my DSLR.
Use a little Velcro and you don't have to carry it in a pocket. You can attach that little sucker to the D800e like a remora. BTW, how do you like it so far?
 
CAcreeks wrote:

Seems to work well most of the time with KimL's settings, which is to say
  • M (medium size) to get hardware DR 400%
  • standard (Provia) color, maybe Astia for overcast weather
  • Auto ISO 1600 or 3200, your choice
  • JPEG Fine
There is a potential problem with those settings if the user is not aware:

Once ISO is higher than DR the unique, sensor pixel pairing which gives the extra 2EV+ of highlight recovery is swamped by sensor amplification instead, which is effected by raising the ISO. This makes for noisier images.

If you want hardware DR400 you need M size and ISO less than DR.
 
Trevor G wrote:
CAcreeks wrote:
Seems to work well most of the time with KimL's settings, which is to say
  • M (medium size) to get hardware DR 400%
  • standard (Provia) color, maybe Astia for overcast weather
  • Auto ISO 1600 or 3200, your choice
  • JPEG Fine
There is a potential problem with those settings if the user is not aware:

Once ISO is higher than DR the unique, sensor pixel pairing which gives the extra 2EV+ of highlight recovery is swamped by sensor amplification instead, which is effected by raising the ISO. This makes for noisier images.

If you want hardware DR400 you need M size and ISO less than DR.
 
PAUL TILL wrote:
Trevor G wrote:
  • M (medium size) to get hardware DR 400%
There is a potential problem with those settings if the user is not aware:

Once ISO is higher than DR the unique, sensor pixel pairing which gives the extra 2EV+ of highlight recovery is swamped by sensor amplification instead, which is effected by raising the ISO. This makes for noisier images.

If you want hardware DR400 you need M size and ISO less than DR.
You're confused ... you appear to be talking about shooting at full resolution when CA is recommending half resolution.
Aha, that explains it. Trevor confused me until Paul's note.

Moreover, hardware DR 400% still works with ISO higher than 400.

P.S. Because the F770 is a 16 megapixel camera, the half-resolution 8 Mp are plenty. Many highly regarded luxury P&S models are only 10 Mp.
 
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I like the F750 more than my F550, mostly because the lens is better at wide angle, but also because of manual pop-up flash.

However the Fn button is easy to confuse with the On/Off switch and I hardly ever use Fn.

Anybody know a clever use for Fn?
 
P.S. Because the F770 is a 16 megapixel camera, the half-resolution 8 Mp are plenty. Many highly regarded luxury P&S models are only 10 Mp.
That's what makes these 16mp models worth considering, I have been using a 10mp camera for the last few years and that is plenty. Its a pity fuji didn't put this many mp in the XF1.

That and an on/off switch. They could have still had the novelty of a manual zoom, but use a motor to go in and out of the park position.

maybe XF2

Brian
 
Hi there Bill..LOL cool suggestion re the 770.

As to the 800E..luv the thing. It is very satisfying to shoot. Its files are amazing for detail and no issue for my puter. I am going to have it for a looooooooooong time if it holds together.

That said its ridiculous that a 3K cam would come with an issue ..and mine did. The left most focal point on my D800E ..yup after a zillion tests ..appears to be whacked- blurry. Spoke to Nikon and I will be sending the cam back to get it fixed. Thankfully there is a Nikon repair center close by...and it seems they have found a way to fix this issue.

That said the few shots I have run through it have been among the sharpest things I have ever seen from a digital cam. Once you cross into this kind of imagery everything else ..well aint cutting it anymore ..BUT as you duly noted awhile back ..all those pixels = a need for careful shooting technique as the SS lowers ..

all the best

hope things are going well in the big Apple

g

* high ISO shots from the D ..are as advertised ..very usable into the higher realms with only modest pp schemes needed. Just an amazing,amazing cam.

 

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