Anyone else buy D800, sell it and buy D600 and love it!!

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Hi, I am a wedding Photographer using a D3s and a D3 as a second body. The D3 started displaying lots of errors so I bought a D800. From the moment I unpacked it, it just didn't feel right. The images lacked sharpness and displayed a green cast to the. I compared the d800 side by side with sharpness of the D3s and the D3s was so much better. It wasn't that one side was soft it all seemed soft. I tried all my lenses including the 70-200 f2.8 vr2 and my trusty 50mm f1.4 and even on a tripod they still seemed soft, I must add I do have 20/20 vision, so I knew it wasn't my eyes. After trying for a day I decided to return it as I'm not happy buying something that doesn't work for me.

I read the Nikon technical guide which basically said, don't use an aperture above f8 due to diffraction and use a faster shutter speed than required, which would add another element to think about whilst trying t organise 120 people at a wedding with a restricted amount of time.

Yesterday I ordered the D600 and from the time I unpacked it until just before I started typing this thread, I have been so impressed with it. The image sharpness is almost as good as the D3s, intact in some cases it is better. The colour cast from the D800 has gone and the file sizes are far better to manage and load up on Photoshop.

I have 3 weddings this week and as it stands now I would happily shoot all 3 on the D600.

I think if you are torn between the 2, as I was, then the D800 is an awesome piece of kit if you are photographing static subjects, but , if like me, things are moving and light is changing then the D600 probably offers a better solution.

I know there will be plenty of people out there who have a brilliant copy of the D800 and think it is the best thing since sliced bread, but in my opinion , for my purposes, the D600 definitely fits the bill.

Thanks for reading




Rob
 
Rob-uk wrote:

Hi, I am a wedding Photographer using a D3s and a D3 as a second body. The D3 started displaying lots of errors so I bought a D800. From the moment I unpacked it, it just didn't feel right. The images lacked sharpness and displayed a green cast to the. I compared the d800 side by side with sharpness of the D3s and the D3s was so much better. It wasn't that one side was soft it all seemed soft. I tried all my lenses including the 70-200 f2.8 vr2 and my trusty 50mm f1.4 and even on a tripod they still seemed soft, I must add I do have 20/20 vision, so I knew it wasn't my eyes. After trying for a day I decided to return it as I'm not happy buying something that doesn't work for me.

I read the Nikon technical guide which basically said, don't use an aperture above f8 due to diffraction and use a faster shutter speed than required, which would add another element to think about whilst trying t organise 120 people at a wedding with a restricted amount of time.

Yesterday I ordered the D600 and from the time I unpacked it until just before I started typing this thread, I have been so impressed with it. The image sharpness is almost as good as the D3s, intact in some cases it is better. The colour cast from the D800 has gone and the file sizes are far better to manage and load up on Photoshop.

I have 3 weddings this week and as it stands now I would happily shoot all 3 on the D600.

I think if you are torn between the 2, as I was, then the D800 is an awesome piece of kit if you are photographing static subjects, but , if like me, things are moving and light is changing then the D600 probably offers a better solution.

I know there will be plenty of people out there who have a brilliant copy of the D800 and think it is the best thing since sliced bread, but in my opinion , for my purposes, the D600 definitely fits the bill.

Thanks for reading

Rob
I look forward to your follow-up comments on how it did at these weddings. Your overal impressions, caveats, etc. Please post them.
 
Rob-uk wrote:

Yesterday I ordered the D600 and from the time I unpacked it until just before I started typing this thread, I have been so impressed with it. The image sharpness is almost as good as the D3s, intact in some cases it is better. The colour cast from the D800 has gone and the file sizes are far better to manage and load up on Photoshop.

I have 3 weddings this week and as it stands now I would happily shoot all 3 on the D600.
Wow! Yesterday you ordered the camera, received it and tested, all withing 24 hours period!


Good luck with your shoots. Please, report back after the weddings. How is the dust/oil on the sensor?

Leo
 
I compared the d800 side by side with sharpness of the D3s and the D3s was so much better. It wasn't that one side was soft it all seemed soft.
You seriously expect us to believe that?
 
Rob-uk wrote:

I compared the d800 side by side with sharpness of the D3s and the D3s was so much better. It wasn't that one side was soft it all seemed soft. I tried all my lenses including the 70-200 f2.8 vr2 and my trusty 50mm f1.4 and even on a tripod they still seemed soft, I must add I do have 20/20 vision, so I knew it wasn't my eyes. After trying for a day I decided to return it as I'm not happy buying something that doesn't work for me.
Sorry, but think logically here. How can one camera be "softer" than the other?

The d800 has more resolution, and by all accounts it has a very weak AA filter too. There's no way it should be "softer". Total nonsense.

Also, less than one day of ownership doesn't qualify you for anything.
 
u007 wrote:
Rob-uk wrote:

I compared the d800 side by side with sharpness of the D3s and the D3s was so much better. It wasn't that one side was soft it all seemed soft. I tried all my lenses including the 70-200 f2.8 vr2 and my trusty 50mm f1.4 and even on a tripod they still seemed soft, I must add I do have 20/20 vision, so I knew it wasn't my eyes. After trying for a day I decided to return it as I'm not happy buying something that doesn't work for me.
Sorry, but think logically here. How can one camera be "softer" than the other?

The d800 has more resolution, and by all accounts it has a very weak AA filter too. There's no way it should be "softer". Total nonsense.

Also, less than one day of ownership doesn't qualify you for anything.
 
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Rob-uk wrote:

The images lacked sharpness and displayed a green cast to the. I compared the d800 side by side with sharpness of the D3s and the D3s was so much better. It wasn't that one side was soft it all seemed soft.
Did you compare images via the camera LCD screen or computer?

Also when I tried the D800 for the first time the images came out soft as well (spoiled by the low pixel and high ISO of the D3), tho after few minutes of technique adjustments, the sharpness and details blew my mind, definitely way better than my D3.
 
fft81 wrote:
u007 wrote:
Rob-uk wrote:

I compared the d800 side by side with sharpness of the D3s and the D3s was so much better. It wasn't that one side was soft it all seemed soft. I tried all my lenses including the 70-200 f2.8 vr2 and my trusty 50mm f1.4 and even on a tripod they still seemed soft, I must add I do have 20/20 vision, so I knew it wasn't my eyes. After trying for a day I decided to return it as I'm not happy buying something that doesn't work for me.
Sorry, but think logically here. How can one camera be "softer" than the other?

The d800 has more resolution, and by all accounts it has a very weak AA filter too. There's no way it should be "softer". Total nonsense.

Also, less than one day of ownership doesn't qualify you for anything.
 
I will follow up next week, I have 3 weddings and an aircraft job plus 2 teaching days.




Rob
 
WhoaLeo360 wrote:
Rob-uk wrote:

Yesterday I ordered the D600 and from the time I unpacked it until just before I started typing this thread, I have been so impressed with it. The image sharpness is almost as good as the D3s, intact in some cases it is better. The colour cast from the D800 has gone and the file sizes are far better to manage and load up on Photoshop.

I have 3 weddings this week and as it stands now I would happily shoot all 3 on the D600.
Wow! Yesterday you ordered the camera, received it and tested, all withing 24 hours period!

Good luck with your shoots. Please, report back after the weddings. How is the dust/oil on the sensor?

Leo
Whoah, steady on there, I have taken over 2000 shots since I received and I am still amazed. As for Dust or oil on the sensor, regarding dust, there is no excuse for bad practises when changing lenses but oil, I'm not too sure about, I've not encountered that yet.

Am I missing something or are you, what you Americans call, a Canon fanboy?




Rob
 
Reilly Diefenbach wrote:
I compared the d800 side by side with sharpness of the D3s and the D3s was so much better. It wasn't that one side was soft it all seemed soft.
You seriously expect us to believe that?
Well the manager and 3 sales staff at the largest photographicr etailer in the uk were as surprised me, and printsg enerally don't lie, unless my printer was at fault, well it was a Canon!




Rob
 
Until you've made the same comparison as me then you don't qualify to say anything.




Besides I didn't say all d800's were soft, just my copy.




Rob
 
Rob-uk wrote:

Until you've made the same comparison as me then you don't qualify to say anything.

Besides I didn't say all d800's were soft, just my copy.

Rob
Exactly, they are too many gear heads that never compared properly cameras on field in this forum. I had the same issue when I bought a Canon T2i (18MP) and compared the shots with my D40X : regardless of the setting used or the sharpness added, the T2i files were soft all over. In this case it was due to the thick AA filter, weak sensor and processing engine. Smaller pixels are also prone to worse pixel sharpness and detail loss when shooting higher Iso settings. I had the chance to compare the D800 to my new D600, and I am also extremly glad of the D600.
 
olyflyer wrote:
fft81 wrote:
u007 wrote:
Rob-uk wrote:

I compared the d800 side by side with sharpness of the D3s and the D3s was so much better. It wasn't that one side was soft it all seemed soft. I tried all my lenses including the 70-200 f2.8 vr2 and my trusty 50mm f1.4 and even on a tripod they still seemed soft, I must add I do have 20/20 vision, so I knew it wasn't my eyes. After trying for a day I decided to return it as I'm not happy buying something that doesn't work for me.
Sorry, but think logically here. How can one camera be "softer" than the other?

The d800 has more resolution, and by all accounts it has a very weak AA filter too. There's no way it should be "softer". Total nonsense.

Also, less than one day of ownership doesn't qualify you for anything.
 
fft81 wrote:
u007 wrote:
Rob-uk wrote:

I compared the d800 side by side with sharpness of the D3s and the D3s was so much better. It wasn't that one side was soft it all seemed soft. I tried all my lenses including the 70-200 f2.8 vr2 and my trusty 50mm f1.4 and even on a tripod they still seemed soft, I must add I do have 20/20 vision, so I knew it wasn't my eyes. After trying for a day I decided to return it as I'm not happy buying something that doesn't work for me.
Sorry, but think logically here. How can one camera be "softer" than the other?

The d800 has more resolution, and by all accounts it has a very weak AA filter too. There's no way it should be "softer". Total nonsense.

Also, less than one day of ownership doesn't qualify you for anything.
 
FTH wrote:
Rob-uk wrote:

Until you've made the same comparison as me then you don't qualify to say anything.

Besides I didn't say all d800's were soft, just my copy.

Rob
Exactly, they are too many gear heads that never compared properly cameras on field in this forum. I had the same issue when I bought a Canon T2i (18MP) and compared the shots with my D40X : regardless of the setting used or the sharpness added, the T2i files were soft all over. In this case it was due to the thick AA filter, weak sensor and processing engine. Smaller pixels are also prone to worse pixel sharpness and detail loss when shooting higher Iso settings. I had the chance to compare the D800 to my new D600, and I am also extremly glad of the D600.
That is exactly what I was trying to say, at least one person read the whole post.




Good luck with the D600, I believe for the price it is a brilliant piece of kit.

Next year I will get a D4 when my lease is up on my D3s, but i think I'll keep the D3s as it is just so good.

Cheers




Rob
 
Rob-uk wrote:
fft81 wrote:
u007 wrote:
Rob-uk wrote:

I compared the d800 side by side with sharpness of the D3s and the D3s was so much better. It wasn't that one side was soft it all seemed soft. I tried all my lenses including the 70-200 f2.8 vr2 and my trusty 50mm f1.4 and even on a tripod they still seemed soft, I must add I do have 20/20 vision, so I knew it wasn't my eyes. After trying for a day I decided to return it as I'm not happy buying something that doesn't work for me.
Sorry, but think logically here. How can one camera be "softer" than the other?

The d800 has more resolution, and by all accounts it has a very weak AA filter too. There's no way it should be "softer". Total nonsense.

Also, less than one day of ownership doesn't qualify you for anything.
 
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Leo360 wrote:
Wow! Yesterday you ordered the camera, received it and tested, all withing 24 hours period!
That's not impossible at all. I did the same thing, ordered the camera during the morning, collected the afternoon and before the end of second day I was ready with the tests to conclude that I had no AF issues. If I had time the same day I received it I could have tested it and been ready the same day. How much testing do you need to see if a camera is OK or not?
 
Amazing news .....I am planning to get the d600 soon

Please don't forget the update on ur weddings :)

Thanks
 

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