Like a dead cat! (Or, just very curious about...)

atom14 · Oct 27, 2012

Hi to all and welcome to all the relatively new Σ users.

Here is what I'm curious about:

How many people here have only taken up a Sigma camera since the release of the

DP1M and DP2M, predominantly,

and to a lesser extent, the SD1M.

(I cite these three especially because of their price points, unlike the initial price of the SD1.)

OK, even to a much lesser extent, you have been a recent Σ-phile on the basis of a non-M DP camera. (OK! OK! Chuck in an non-M SD camera.)

I wish there was some sort of poll system here, as I suspect that the replies might become cumbersome. Nevertheless, I thank ye all in advance for your participation.

atom(savouring the feline after-life)14.

joaquin100 · Oct 28, 2012

I am on the Sigma side.

Not Merrils in here, still with SD14/15 but certainly those see more Light than D7k, S5 or NEX 5N

In Summer Vacations i went with SD14/15 and D7k, SD15 the most used and later in Autumm Vacations went only with SD15...Next Spring Vacations SD15 for sure maybe along with NEX 5N.

SD15 alone did fine.

www.pbase.com/highlights/image/146664051/medium.jpg

Regards

Joaquin

anfat · Oct 28, 2012

I have a DP2M

DMLee · Oct 28, 2012

I think it would be true to say that people who are not brand biased and are genuinely interested in creating beautiful images would be interested in foveon sensor given the results.

The DP cameras allowed me a chance to try the foveon sensor without having to buy an entire new system with its lenses.

I have been very happy with my DP2M and having made this step I would consider converting to a full sigma system in the future and selling my canon gear. However, I doubt I would have come to this conclusion if I had bought the DP2M earlier in my interest in photography. It is quirky and in some ways limited, I am not sure I would have had the patience to use it if it had come out 6-7 yrs ago.

For me its about the quality of images I get and whether I like them or not. Apparently Sony is developing a foveon equivalent sensor and I would love to see how that turns out with their financial muscle. If a Sony product produced the same results in the future in a better body I would also consider changing to Sony also.

JohnLindroth · Oct 28, 2012

indoctrinated to foveon 4 years ago with SD14

"upgraded" to SD9

still considering which Merrill camera I might like most.

atom14 · Oct 28, 2012

Keep 'em coming. I may resuscitate yet!

atom14. (again some day.)

maple · Oct 28, 2012

Have been following Foveon since the launch of SD9 in 2002, but waited till the coming of its 2nd incarnation to jump aboard.

SD14 - Spring 2007

SD1M - Spring 2012

Bought a DP1 and a DP2S in between for my son who also grew to like how Foveon captures images. He went Nikon's way with the advent of D800, which is a better camera overall, that is if you don't mind the neck and shoulder straining weight, and a deep hole in your bank account.

yukoner2 · Oct 28, 2012

Began with an SD14 in the Spring of 2008 and added an SD15 this past summer.

Tom Schum · Oct 28, 2012

After some very pleasing experiences with the 50mm F1.4 EX DG HSM on my Canon 30D, I decided to try a DP2.

That was followed by a SD15 and then, when the price suddenly dropped to $2295, a SD1.

At this point, I'm quite happy with them all, even though constantly bothered by the large amounts of work needed to pull out a spectacular image.

However, when the SD1 was $7995 I tried a Fuji X10. Now I'm beginning to consider the Fuji X-E1, primarily for the live-view autofocus, interchangeable lenses, and wonderful JPGs (all in one camera, unlike the Sigma line).

So I guess I might be something of a fickle fanboy, but I had a revelation this evening: we are facing a big rainstorm with sustained high winds and rain, and lengthy power failures. I decided to keep the X10 handy.

cquarksnow · Oct 29, 2012

Well aware of Foveon for a while and waited for a better resolution, so I got the DP1M when it came out. I have seen criticisms about the analog front-end that's been added for the sake of ISO400 performance, as opposed to the non-Merrill Σ

I wish Σ would realize some were looking for the Foveon sensor vestigial performance, interested in doing ISO50, 75, 100 and maybe 200, nothing more.

Also viewing raw (x3f) Merrill pictures or converting them to a non-destructive format is still a mystery. Not everyone out there is looking for ISO800 or jpg format to destroy colors...

There is an IRS exemption for blindness and now Bayer gave another exemption for color-blindness. It feels almost like there would be an Alternative Foveon Tax for people who use native workflows and can see all the colors, like they tax rich people in France on exterior signs of wealth !

Chris

Doubleluca · Oct 29, 2012

My Dp1s Dp2s and SD15 17-70 + 50-200 are satisfying my needs at the moment.(small prints)
I married the foveon technology so can't use bayer sensor anymore

I am fascinated by the Merril sensor capability but it goes over my needs, I will go for a Merril in case of my gears will fail (break).

Ciao

NancyP · Oct 29, 2012

Sigma camera newbie, just bought DP2M based on Michael Reichman's review at Luminous Landscape and seeing examples of output at LuLa and in this DP forum.

Jim Beverlin · Nov 1, 2012

Bought a DP2X in August of 2011. Love it but am considering a DP2M. For SLRS I have been with Pentax since 1983 with 4 film bodies along with 2 DSLRS (1stD and a K-5). Have a large collection of their primes. The DP2X compliments their primes and the DP2M will be even better. Have a Sigma 400mm f5.6 tele macro with a matching 1.4X convereter. Outstanding lens. No plans to switch over on the DSLR side. Just have too much invested in K mount lenses.

atom14 · Nov 1, 2012

That's an interesting history, Jim. I have only one Sigma lens, a 30/1.4. It took me ages to learn how to use it properly (and after a bit of micro-AF adjustment). But I have three other lenses and both a Tamron adapter for Pentax and an M42 adapter to suit Sigma. I can use all my lenses on the SD1M with those adapters. Wouldn't you be able to use the Pentax lenses on a Sigma DSLR too?

atom14.

atom14 · Nov 1, 2012

Norm, Tom, Chris (cquark), Doubleluca, NancyP, and Jim.

I would also like to hear from some more of the really new users.

atom14.

tarmov · Nov 2, 2012

I had two Canon compacts before DP2M: Powershots A70 (in 2003) and A610 (in early summer 2006).

I bought A610 for its image clarity (as well as for the swivel lcd and long run time with 4xAA batteries) and I hadn't really seen any new camera with an image quality that would lure me into buying it. The only exception were Sigma DP models. I had been considering buying a DP for years and was just about to buy DP2s or DP2x when DP2M was announced.

I bought DP2M as soon as it was available in amazon.de.
I am happy with what DP2M produces and I still have my A610 as a backup. When my A610 finally dies, I will probably find another small backup, preferably with a 1080/60p video capability.

I generally like my cameras small, since I often carry them in my beltbag on my back while cycling or walking.

When buying, I also try to choose a camera whose resolution is close to a multiple of 1280x1024 or 2560x1600, to get 1:1 or 4:1 (or 9:1 or 16:1) pixel peeping on my desktop monitors.

atom14 · Nov 2, 2012

jrdigitalart · Nov 2, 2012

atom14 said:
atom14 wrote:

Hi to all and welcome to all the relatively new Σ users.

Here is what I'm curious about:

How many people here have only taken up a Sigma camera since the release of the

DP1M and DP2M, predominantly,

and to a lesser extent, the SD1M.

(I cite these three especially because of their price points, unlike the initial price of the SD1.)

OK, even to a much lesser extent, you have been a recent Σ-phile on the basis of a non-M DP camera. (OK! OK! Chuck in an non-M SD camera.)

I wish there was some sort of poll system here, as I suspect that the replies might become cumbersome. Nevertheless, I thank ye all in advance for your participation.

atom(savouring the feline after-life)14.

. . . it goes with my favourite bumper sticker, "Missing your cat? Take a look under my tires!"

Apologies to responsible cat lovers out there that contain their moggies, but if you could see what local cats here do to our native birds... just so you know where my distaste for cats comes from.

Back to what is going on here, I've been a Sigma dSLR user since the inception of the SD10.

The most magical lens in my arsenal is the 50 - 500 OS. It shines! My 18-50 SD10 kit-lens does not cease to amaze me.

atom14 · Nov 2, 2012

Ta Jim. Now I'm jealous. Of the 50-500

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