Pictures from Lundy Lake

garyhgaryh · Oct 26, 2012

These pictures were taken with my D5100 and a Sigma 8-16mm lens.

Any constructive (seriously) and encouraging comments welcomed.

Lake Lundy

Lake Lundy from above. Note the moss on the rock to the right.

Beautiful Trees in the canyon surrounding the lake.

Joe Huckleberry · Oct 27, 2012

Nice pictures. The clouds in the first two are a bit too bright for me.

evo82 · Oct 27, 2012

Hey nice shots, i'm not sure but the horizon might need some straightening in the first one, and maybe using a CPL fliter would sort out the blown out sky.

thanx for sharing

garyhgaryh · Oct 27, 2012

Joe Huckleberry said:
Joe Huckleberry wrote:

Nice pictures. The clouds in the first two are a bit too bright for me.

Thanks Joe.

It was cloudy/overcast so the clouds hid the blue skies :-(. The shots would have been nicer without those clouds.

garyhgaryh · Oct 27, 2012

evo82 said:
evo82 wrote:

Hey nice shots, i'm not sure but the horizon might need some straightening in the first one, and maybe using a CPL fliter would sort out the blown out sky.

thanx for sharing

Thanks for your comments. The lens has a bulbous front element so I cannot use a filter on the sigma 8-16mm wide angle lens.

The clouds did get in the way of my blue skies.

I tend to have issues with getting my pics straight. I wished the d5100 has the electronic horizon gauge like the d800/d800e.

Gary

Steve Bingham · Oct 27, 2012

Been there! Nice photos. Great area. Great hike . . . but that was years ago. Had to ride my Bultaco (dirt bike) into town to get a starter for my Ford 250 - and install it. Ah, youth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nfpotter · Oct 27, 2012

#1 - I would have shot this at f/9 or f/11, ISO 100, and a much slower shutter speed, regardless of whether hand-held or tripod. Wide-angle lenses generally don't need fast shutter speeds, unless your subject is moving. I would have set my exposure so that little or none of the clouds blew out, and brought the shadows up in PP. And if you have trouble with tilted shots, get used to shooting with the grid turned on in the viewfinder. A level tool of some sort is great, BUT, sometimes you don't WANT the camera perfectly level, you want it to APPEAR level.

#2 - same as #1

#3 - same as #1 and #2, and I would have changed the angle of the composition. To my eye, there is too much of the boring rocks/foreground.

Just my 2 cents...

garyhgaryh · Oct 27, 2012

nfpotter said:
nfpotter wrote:

#1 - I would have shot this at f/9 or f/11, ISO 100, and a much slower shutter speed, regardless of whether hand-held or tripod. Wide-angle lenses generally don't need fast shutter speeds, unless your subject is moving. I would have set my exposure so that little or none of the clouds blew out, and brought the shadows up in PP. And if you have trouble with tilted shots, get used to shooting with the grid turned on in the viewfinder. A level tool of some sort is great, BUT, sometimes you don't WANT the camera perfectly level, you want it to APPEAR level.

#2 - same as #1

#3 - same as #1 and #2, and I would have changed the angle of the composition. To my eye, there is too much of the boring rocks/foreground.

Just my 2 cents...

Thanks for the input.

Some questions about your comments:

#1 #2 #3 - Why would you shoot at f/9 or f/11? More DOF? I usually have it at f/8.

I do agree the clouds are blown.

No grid on the viewfinder on the d5100 (you have grids in liveview), correct me if I am wrong.

Also, how low would YOU set the shutter speed and why? I do agree that the shutter speed is fast for a landscape shot.

#3 - I do like the rocks in the foreground, but that's my opinion. It adds some nice texturing to the photo

, but then my opinion is usually not align with popular opinion (usually).

Again, thanks for the input.

Gary

starman1969 · Oct 28, 2012

Very good pictures. Nicely done.

Brev00 · Oct 28, 2012

To me, the first two pics seem cluttered while I enjoy the clean lines and strong composition of the second. I like the foreground rocks as well.

nfpotter · Oct 28, 2012

garyhgaryh said:
garyhgaryh wrote:

garyhgaryh said:

nfpotter wrote:

#1 - I would have shot this at f/9 or f/11, ISO 100, and a much slower shutter speed, regardless of whether hand-held or tripod. Wide-angle lenses generally don't need fast shutter speeds, unless your subject is moving. I would have set my exposure so that little or none of the clouds blew out, and brought the shadows up in PP. And if you have trouble with tilted shots, get used to shooting with the grid turned on in the viewfinder. A level tool of some sort is great, BUT, sometimes you don't WANT the camera perfectly level, you want it to APPEAR level.

#2 - same as #1

#3 - same as #1 and #2, and I would have changed the angle of the composition. To my eye, there is too much of the boring rocks/foreground.

Just my 2 cents...

Click to expand...

Thanks for the input.

Some questions about your comments:

#1 #2 #3 - Why would you shoot at f/9 or f/11? More DOF? I usually have it at f/8.

Yes, f/8 would be better, f/9 better still. F/11 rides a nice line between maximum DOF and the start of diffraction on that sensor.

garyhgaryh said:
I do agree the clouds are blown.

No grid on the viewfinder on the d5100 (you have grids in liveview), correct me if I am wrong.

Oh. Not sure, I don't have a D5100. Pretty lame if it doesn't have a VF grid display.

garyhgaryh said:
Also, how low would YOU set the shutter speed and why? I do agree that the shutter speed is fast for a landscape shot.

First off, it's not "fast for a landscape shot". That's a generalization. It's only "fast" because you're using a higher ISO than needed.

Assuming you're talking about hand-held, I'd set aperture where I want it, ISO to 100, and as long as that left me a SS of AT LEAST 1.5 x focal length (non-VR lenses, lower with VR) OR HIGHER, then I'd set proper shutter speed for proper exposure based upon having decided on the aperture and ISO that I chose. If I needed a faster SS to stop either camera movement OR subject movement (like foliage blowing around in the wind), then I would roll the ISO up a bit (or open the aperture is ISO was getting too high) to allow a faster SS.

garyhgaryh said:
#3 - I do like the rocks in the foreground, but that's my opinion. It adds some nice texturing to the photo , but then my opinion is usually not align with popular opinion (usually).

That's why it's good that we're not all the same person, lol.

garyhgaryh said:
Again, thanks for the input.

Gary

Brev00 · Oct 28, 2012

I meant the strong lines of the third photo.

garyhgaryh · Oct 28, 2012

Brev00 said:
Brev00 wrote:

To me, the first two pics seem cluttered while I enjoy the clean lines and strong composition of the second. I like the foreground rocks as well.

garyhgaryh · Oct 28, 2012

nfpotter said:
nfpotter wrote:

nfpotter said:

garyhgaryh wrote:

nfpotter said:

nfpotter wrote:

#1 - I would have shot this at f/9 or f/11, ISO 100, and a much slower shutter speed, regardless of whether hand-held or tripod. Wide-angle lenses generally don't need fast shutter speeds, unless your subject is moving. I would have set my exposure so that little or none of the clouds blew out, and brought the shadows up in PP. And if you have trouble with tilted shots, get used to shooting with the grid turned on in the viewfinder. A level tool of some sort is great, BUT, sometimes you don't WANT the camera perfectly level, you want it to APPEAR level.

#2 - same as #1

#3 - same as #1 and #2, and I would have changed the angle of the composition. To my eye, there is too much of the boring rocks/foreground.

Just my 2 cents...

Click to expand...

Thanks for the input.

Some questions about your comments:

#1 #2 #3 - Why would you shoot at f/9 or f/11? More DOF? I usually have it at f/8.

Click to expand...

Yes, f/8 would be better, f/9 better still. F/11 rides a nice line between maximum DOF and the start of diffraction on that sensor.

nfpotter said:

I do agree the clouds are blown.

No grid on the viewfinder on the d5100 (you have grids in liveview), correct me if I am wrong.

Click to expand...

Oh. Not sure, I don't have a D5100. Pretty lame if it doesn't have a VF grid display.

Yes, the d5100 does not have grid lines in the VF. Sad, but true. My d800e does and both cams have it in Live View.

nfpotter said:
nfpotter said:

Also, how low would YOU set the shutter speed and why? I do agree that the shutter speed is fast for a landscape shot.

Click to expand...

First off, it's not "fast for a landscape shot". That's a generalization. It's only "fast" because you're using a higher ISO than needed.

Assuming you're talking about hand-held, I'd set aperture where I want it, ISO to 100, and as long as that left me a SS of AT LEAST 1.5 x focal length (non-VR lenses, lower with VR) OR HIGHER, then I'd set proper shutter speed for proper exposure based upon having decided on the aperture and ISO that I chose. If I needed a faster SS to stop either camera movement OR subject movement (like foliage blowing around in the wind), then I would roll the ISO up a bit (or open the aperture is ISO was getting too high) to allow a faster SS.

Very similar to how I approach setting the SS. I try to keep the SS at least 2.0 x focal length, but I know I an go with SS between focal len and 2x focal len. I always have VR on and I am ok with ISO between 100-1000, but I try to keep it as low as possible.

Why are the 3 pics above at ISO ~400? I did not even check it.. I got out of the car, made sure my metering and focus point was correct and snapped the pic. At one point in the trip I was shooting ISO 1000 because the night before I was shooting stars. I was a bit miffed about that, but the pics still came out pretty good at such high ISO.

nfpotter said:
nfpotter said:

#3 - I do like the rocks in the foreground, but that's my opinion. It adds some nice texturing to the photo , but then my opinion is usually not align with popular opinion (usually).

Click to expand...

That's why it's good that we're not all the same person, lol.

Haha..

nfpotter said:
nfpotter said:

Again, thanks for the input.

Gary

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