Why I sold my 10D pt 2

SHow teh shots! So far the S40 shots were not even close, so lets see your shots that are so much better. Try an ISO 800 shot, available light inside a dim hotel room and let me know what you get.
Just a notice about the photos. Take photos at the same location
and at the same conditions. I can show you some of my photos I took
with my very first digital camera which was Canon Powershot G2. I
can say their quality is better than the quality of the S2 photos
on your page. But I didn't say G2 is a better camera than S2.
Due to some other posts in this forum from others I have decided to
post at their request some of my 10D shots vs some of my Fji S2
shots - These are not scientific tests, just normal everyday shots
in similar situations. My technique was the same. The 10D shots did
have more expensive lenses.

http://www.pbase.com/videoman/canon_10d_vs_fuji_s2_portrait

Again, in another post I was getting egged on to post some
comparison shots, so here ya go!
 
It's not the camera,it's the photographer...

Sheesh..It just amazes me when someone takes a shot with all the wrong light and bad settings then BLAMES the freaking camera.

Read the manual..

For the S2: Be sure you lug around a little red wagon full of 3 different battery types!

eyedo/
without checking all the settings in all the shots it's hard to get
a feel from an apples and apples perspective....

good luck...
Due to some other posts in this forum from others I have decided to
post at their request some of my 10D shots vs some of my Fji S2
shots - These are not scientific tests, just normal everyday shots
in similar situations. My technique was the same. The 10D shots did
have more expensive lenses.

http://www.pbase.com/videoman/canon_10d_vs_fuji_s2_portrait

Again, in another post I was getting egged on to post some
comparison shots, so here ya go!
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Hi Steve,

It is hard to make anything from a subjective test such as yours was. I don't have the 10D yet(is on order), but did made a few shots in the store and outside of the store, and I was very pleased with the opinion. I find the colors from the 10D much more pleasing, and can always adjust them slightly in photoshop(not much of a problem there). To do real justice with comparison shots such as you did, you should have similar shots with the same subjects. No doubt, the S2 is also a fabulous camera, but it all comes down to individual preferences, I think.
Due to some other posts in this forum from others I have decided to
post at their request some of my 10D shots vs some of my Fji S2
shots - These are not scientific tests, just normal everyday shots
in similar situations. My technique was the same. The 10D shots did
have more expensive lenses.

http://www.pbase.com/videoman/canon_10d_vs_fuji_s2_portrait

Again, in another post I was getting egged on to post some
comparison shots, so here ya go!
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Its so funny when guys like you who dont post any images act like you are an artist and a photographer. I can also talk a lot of cr*p behind a computer, but I dont, I back it up - Lets see your images...Id love to see your artistic vision. Man you Canon guys just cant stand it when someone talks facts about the 10D - Its like you are all brainwashed! Amazing! Others have pointed out teh 10D problems, but everytime you who own it and haveno other choice have to run and put down anyone with facts about the 10D - Amazing - So where is the link to yoru pics? Let me guess, you dont have any uploaded?
Steve, both cameras are capable of producing stunning images.
However, the cameras are not your problem. You have developed no
skills in the art of photography (composition, lighting, etc.). As
a result, you could make ANY camera look defective. Do yourself a
favor, focus on your skills not your equippment.

Regards,
J Roberts
 
Another BS answer -

Stephen, have you ever used teh S2 for more than 10 minutes? The user interface is MUCH freindlier than the 10D - If the 10D cant handle taking photos in tough situations its not much of a camera. Ive never had any problems with my D30, D60 or S2 - Just the 10D -So go ahead 10D guys, keep dreaming.
Steve, both cameras are capable of producing stunning images.
However, the cameras are not your problem. You have developed no
skills in the art of photography (composition, lighting, etc.). As
a result, you could make ANY camera look defective. Do yourself a
favor, focus on your skills not your equippment.

Regards,
J Roberts
Agreed. Steve's control of the camera is the problem here,
espeically with the 10D, which I don't understand as the user
interface/operation is much more intuitive. I've gotten better
results with an S45 (which is a h*ll of a camera for what it is).
 
Thisi clearly shows teh pasty 10D look - its teh worst of all his examples. If I remember correctly Stephen prefers to shoot with the 1ds and S2 -
Have you read it yet, and looked at the fullsize examples... ?

Nothing wrong with the 10D...it's the limitation of the
photographer as your point&shoot examples show...
Due to some other posts in this forum from others I have decided to
post at their request some of my 10D shots vs some of my Fji S2
shots - These are not scientific tests, just normal everyday shots
in similar situations. My technique was the same. The 10D shots did
have more expensive lenses.

http://www.pbase.com/videoman/canon_10d_vs_fuji_s2_portrait

Again, in another post I was getting egged on to post some
comparison shots, so here ya go!
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Actually that is a sphynx kitten and she is very very ill - doc says she may die, so we are trying to get her back to health. I do have an older Sphynx - heres one with the S2



I find it amazing how rude people are here on the Canon forum (Not you Brian!!) Personal attacks are uncalled for, especially when you are hiding behind a PC and not showing any pictures of yoru own. Amazing. Out of all the forums on this site, the Canon forum rep holds true.
Presumably, others have addressed how the comparison doesn't really
show much of anything. From what I've seen, both camera bodies are
capable tools for making serious pictures. No need to dwell on the
choice of one over the other.

I just wanted to drop in, though, and say that DPR is filled with a
lot of "this is my cat" photos, but I think you win the prize for
ugliest cat. This shot (showing ineffective 10D flash -- I don't
even see a catchlight, are you sure you used flash? But that's
beside the point, look at the cat!):
http://www.pbase.com/image/16058012

No offense -- I'm sure it's a lovely pet, just not an attractive
one. ;-)

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http://www.briankennedy.net/
 



I find it amazing how rude people are here on the Canon forum (Not
you Brian!!) Personal attacks are uncalled for, especially when you
are hiding behind a PC and not showing any pictures of yoru own.
Amazing. Out of all the forums on this site, the Canon forum rep
holds true.
Presumably, others have addressed how the comparison doesn't really
show much of anything. From what I've seen, both camera bodies are
capable tools for making serious pictures. No need to dwell on the
choice of one over the other.

I just wanted to drop in, though, and say that DPR is filled with a
lot of "this is my cat" photos, but I think you win the prize for
ugliest cat. This shot (showing ineffective 10D flash -- I don't
even see a catchlight, are you sure you used flash? But that's
beside the point, look at the cat!):
http://www.pbase.com/image/16058012

No offense -- I'm sure it's a lovely pet, just not an attractive
one. ;-)

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http://www.briankennedy.net/
 
For some reason it appears to not be working but its here
http://www.pbase.com/videoman/fuji_s2



I find it amazing how rude people are here on the Canon forum (Not
you Brian!!) Personal attacks are uncalled for, especially when you
are hiding behind a PC and not showing any pictures of yoru own.
Amazing. Out of all the forums on this site, the Canon forum rep
holds true.
Presumably, others have addressed how the comparison doesn't really
show much of anything. From what I've seen, both camera bodies are
capable tools for making serious pictures. No need to dwell on the
choice of one over the other.

I just wanted to drop in, though, and say that DPR is filled with a
lot of "this is my cat" photos, but I think you win the prize for
ugliest cat. This shot (showing ineffective 10D flash -- I don't
even see a catchlight, are you sure you used flash? But that's
beside the point, look at the cat!):
http://www.pbase.com/image/16058012

No offense -- I'm sure it's a lovely pet, just not an attractive
one. ;-)

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Brian Kennedy
http://www.briankennedy.net/
 
Thats funny. Did you even read all of teh posts? Did I ever say this was a scientific test? NO, I said the opposite. I took some of my old 10D shots and compared them to my S2 shots - I can do the same with my D60 vs 10D - D60 would win easily - Its funny. I can take great pics with ANY camera except a 10D, but its not the 10D! God forbid it could even begin to be the 10D..why? Because you bought one.
Due to some other posts in this forum from others I have decided to
post at their request some of my 10D shots vs some of my Fji S2
shots - These are not scientific tests, just normal everyday shots
in similar situations. My technique was the same. The 10D shots did
have more expensive lenses.

http://www.pbase.com/videoman/canon_10d_vs_fuji_s2_portrait

Again, in another post I was getting egged on to post some
comparison shots, so here ya go!
 
Im not trying to get Canon guys to say the S2 is better?!? Again, for the 5th time i was responding to a guy in THIS FORUM who wanted me to post examples of shots I took with the 10D and S2 - so I did. You guys must not have liked what you saw becuase you all got so defensive immediately. Im sorry if this upset anyone, but hey, its a free country (but mayeb not for long)
Due to some other posts in this forum from others I have decided to
post at their request some of my 10D shots vs some of my Fji S2
shots - These are not scientific tests, just normal everyday shots
in similar situations. My technique was the same. The 10D shots did
have more expensive lenses.

http://www.pbase.com/videoman/canon_10d_vs_fuji_s2_portrait

Again, in another post I was getting egged on to post some
comparison shots, so here ya go!
 
Looks like your trusty 10D just about blew out parts of her dress and flowers. Nice pasty skin tones and softness too. Looksl ike you may need that course, or did you take those online classes?

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=4873612
Due to some other posts in this forum from others I have decided to
post at their request some of my 10D shots vs some of my Fji S2
shots - These are not scientific tests, just normal everyday shots
in similar situations. My technique was the same. The 10D shots did
have more expensive lenses.

http://www.pbase.com/videoman/canon_10d_vs_fuji_s2_portrait

Again, in another post I was getting egged on to post some
comparison shots, so here ya go!
 
Why so much sky above her head? Where are her legs?

Composition.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=4873612
Due to some other posts in this forum from others I have decided to
post at their request some of my 10D shots vs some of my Fji S2
shots - These are not scientific tests, just normal everyday shots
in similar situations. My technique was the same. The 10D shots did
have more expensive lenses.

http://www.pbase.com/videoman/canon_10d_vs_fuji_s2_portrait

Again, in another post I was getting egged on to post some
comparison shots, so here ya go!
 
OK three battery types????

You have obviously never even seen an S2 inperson. It takes 4 AA Alkalines which last me over 800 shots each. YOu can use 123 lihiums if you plan to use flash. Those last about 4 months if you use the flash. There is no 3rd battery, sorry! I changed my canon battery 4 times before reaching 800 shots. My $3 alkalines are still going.

Also, its amazing that every camera I have owned took great pictures EXCEPT the 10D. Keep dreaming and saying to yourslef over and over 10 times

"My 10D is the best digital camera on the market, boy am I glad I bought it"
Read the manual..

For the S2: Be sure you lug around a little red wagon full of 3
different battery types!

eyedo/
without checking all the settings in all the shots it's hard to get
a feel from an apples and apples perspective....

good luck...
Due to some other posts in this forum from others I have decided to
post at their request some of my 10D shots vs some of my Fji S2
shots - These are not scientific tests, just normal everyday shots
in similar situations. My technique was the same. The 10D shots did
have more expensive lenses.

http://www.pbase.com/videoman/canon_10d_vs_fuji_s2_portrait

Again, in another post I was getting egged on to post some
comparison shots, so here ya go!
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if you take the time to do something urgent, make sure it is
important .............................
 
Im going to go out and find a 10D, buy it and take scientific photos in manual mode for all of you gurus who insist on this. Ill take a series of pics. Portraits, landscapes, animals.

No no no, I wont post teh results here, god forbid. I will post them on teh fuji forum though if anyone is interested in seeing what I am talking about. Full exif will be available for each shot and it will be 100% fair and square. If the 10D yeilds better results Ill eat my S2.

Anyway, Im off to hunt for a 10D. This will be fun. Gary Fong did a comparison and it showed the 10D to be not so hot compared to the S2 - Everyone bashed him, but why? becuase he told the truth???
Due to some other posts in this forum from others I have decided to
post at their request some of my 10D shots vs some of my Fji S2
shots - These are not scientific tests, just normal everyday shots
in similar situations. My technique was the same. The 10D shots did
have more expensive lenses.

http://www.pbase.com/videoman/canon_10d_vs_fuji_s2_portrait

Again, in another post I was getting egged on to post some
comparison shots, so here ya go!
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Olivia
http://www.pbase.com/soulsurfer
http://photos.yahoo.com/whispersfromspirit
 
To get good snapshots, you need to
have a camera where the action is, and very probably while you're a
part of the action. Bang a big, heavy, black camera in the middle
of that, and the action will stop when everyone will start looking
at you, and you'll turn from a participant into an observer. This
will make the pictures less interesting, and I'd have an
interesting picture at lower technical quality over a boring
picture at excellent technical quality any day of the week.
Pretty insightful IMO. You have voiced what has been lurking round the back of my brain for a while now. I've decided to supplement my kit with a compact. Do you think the G3 is still a bit overkill?

Tony
 
Hello Steve,

it's not that rosy in Fuji land, either.... After I sold my D60, I was seriously considering getting back to the Nikon mount. Since I tested the D100 back in summer and didn't like it, I turned to the S2. Tested 2 bodies with the 24-120 (same as yours, right?) and the 50 1.8. Honestly, I was far from being convinced. Yes, I did like the way it kinda falls into my hand. No, I didn't like to lack of immediate review with a histogramm and blown highlights, as on the Canon. But most important, I was seriously surprised at the image quality. Someone on the Fuji forum even asked me if I shoot through some window. Foggy, milky,soapy, soft pictures. (Have a look at the link below). Yes, colors are great. But I also would have like some crispness. User error? Maybe. On two different bodies? Maybe. Still, the evening of the second test, I got myself a 10D, and so far, I am very impressed. Still a lot to learn, but I like the camera. Even though, for personal reasons, I really wanted to get back to Nikon.

http://www.pbase.com/image/15884685
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my kit with a compact. Do you think the G3 is still a bit overkill?
Definitely overkill. The thing is big! There are only two things that go for it: hot shoe, f2 lens. It is however big. When I had one, I left it home almost all the time because it wouldn't fit any big coat pocket. I had a lot more fun with the coolpix 775, although image quality was lacking (cheap lens, weird colors, but hey, who cares?).

Even today, my Olympus Stylus Epic can alway be found in one of my pockets :) So what, it's a film camera you say? Well, guess what... when the film is back from the cheap photofinisher, I can photograph the best pics with my DSLR and the fun begins :) (I do it sometimes, but most of the time, I use the EPP or E-100s slide films from kodak, now, THAT is beautiful colors out of the camera!!! And no 23" monitor beats a 6 foot projection screen!
 
maybe you got 2 lemons and I got a 10D lemon. Seriously though, the S2 in no way has milky photos. The 10D does though. In 90% of the 10D shots Ive seen. Anyway, my test will show what the real conclusion is.
Hello Steve,
it's not that rosy in Fuji land, either.... After I sold my D60, I
was seriously considering getting back to the Nikon mount. Since I
tested the D100 back in summer and didn't like it, I turned to the
S2. Tested 2 bodies with the 24-120 (same as yours, right?) and the
50 1.8. Honestly, I was far from being convinced. Yes, I did like
the way it kinda falls into my hand. No, I didn't like to lack of
immediate review with a histogramm and blown highlights, as on the
Canon. But most important, I was seriously surprised at the image
quality. Someone on the Fuji forum even asked me if I shoot through
some window. Foggy, milky,soapy, soft pictures. (Have a look at the
link below). Yes, colors are great. But I also would have like some
crispness. User error? Maybe. On two different bodies? Maybe.
Still, the evening of the second test, I got myself a 10D, and so
far, I am very impressed. Still a lot to learn, but I like the
camera. Even though, for personal reasons, I really wanted to get
back to Nikon.

http://www.pbase.com/image/15884685
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Alexei Ikonnikov
 
for the 5th time i was responding to a guy in THIS FORUM who wanted
Are you the guy who asked yourself to post pictures? Phil knows from your IP address and I know it too, because I can read minds LOL

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