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I had concerns about the 28-135mm lens compared to the 70-200mm lens. The results were just too far apart.

I am going to perform the test again with a different set of lenses.

I just came back from my friend's house with a great Canon 50mm f/1.4 U lens which will line up against a Nikkor 50mm f/1.4 D.

I will post the results later tonight.
Doug Hanks said:
Got bored and did a little test. Feel free to comment.

http://www.radixphoto.com/d1x-vs-10d/

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I think it is not fair to compare a low-end Canon EOS 10D with a high-end Nikon D1. The 10D cannot even produce better image quality than the D100 or its own sibling D60.

I have found this link from an old thread.

http://www.pbase.com/eosfreak/testshots

Find a comparable camera before you start doing more tests. :)
 
I didn't get the impression that this was a test to see if the cameras were equals, but more to note just what the differences were between these two cameras. You are correct, the D1X is a different "class" camera, but just as we like to know what the differences are between the D1X and the D100, the same holds true for the 10D. I hope I'm not putting words in the originators mouth, but as he also points out the 10D is much better for very long exposures, even if you do have to do a bit of post-processing.

Did I misunderstand your point, Doug?
D100freak said:
I think it is not fair to compare a low-end Canon EOS 10D with a
high-end Nikon D1. The 10D cannot even produce better image
quality than the D100 or its own sibling D60.

I have found this link from an old thread.

http://www.pbase.com/eosfreak/testshots

Find a comparable camera before you start doing more tests. :)
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As far as I can understand from his review, you can even get much out of post-processing from the 10D as the image resolution and quality are just not there.

I have borrowed my friend's new 10D to play for a while, it seems that the canon post-processing software really sucks bad. it is slow and the gain in quality is minimal. this observation seems to be consistent with the reviewer's finding.
 
Genuine Fractals is intended for upsampling images for display at normal viewing distances.

I would NOT recommend using it in a head-to-head test of the two cameras. Rather, I'd shoot the D1X in 5mp mode, and the Canon in it's 6 mp mode. Adding a third party product to the mix just muddies the issue. I also suspect it muddies the images, when viewed as 100% crops.

GF is really good at avoiding the "jaggies" you get when you upsample images for printing at really large sizes. At typical viewing distances, it makes pictures look quite good. However, I bet the upsampled images don't look at their best as 100% crops.

If you are going to use GF, you should use it on images from both cameras. Maybe you should upsample the images from both cameras to some arbitrary size, like 12 mp?

Duncan C
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D100freak said:
As far as I can understand from his review, you can even get much
out of post-processing from the 10D as the image resolution and
quality are just not there.

I have borrowed my friend's new 10D to play for a while, it seems
that the canon post-processing software really sucks bad. it is
slow and the gain in quality is minimal. this observation seems
to be consistent with the reviewer's finding.
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Your 10D shot doesn't look focused. It could be the lens. Your you may need to send the 10D back for AF calibration. If you've been following the canaon forums, some 10D are having AF problems.
Doug Hanks said:
Got bored and did a little test. Feel free to comment.

http://www.radixphoto.com/d1x-vs-10d/

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Banana Chips™ said:
i'm sorry but i find this a dumbass comparison: you used a pro
lens on the D1x yet you used a consumer lens on the 10D.
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Although I am a Nikon guy I agree with you. This is a pretty typical mistake though. Most of the so called "comparative test" use different lenses. Usually Canon is the one that has advantages out of this game.

I think that everybody should though comparative tests with the same lens, hence using 3rd party lenses. There are a few that are good enough.

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All right - I am just a little_beginner. But eaven I understand, that these cameras are for different target groups.

Why not compare the d100 vr. 1Ds ??? - it would be nearly the same!!! We could ask gear bee .... autsch. Also it is useless to compare a over 2years 'old' technology with a new one. You would also not compare a Pentium III 533MHz with a AMD XP 3000+ .... hmmm it seems, that you are doing it ....

Comming back to the target groups. The cameras for the same target group is (how I understand it) the d100 vr. 10d or 1D vr. D1.
The quality of the picture is NOT the only difference!

Because of the technology the compareation d100 and 10d is not useful, but astonishing, because the 'old' one is supirior to the 'new' technology. http://www.digitalreview.ca/cams/D100vs10D.shtml But if you want to compare different cameras, please compare the Canon A10 and the Kodac 14n and post this in the minolta forum! I just have enough of the "my lollypop taste better, than your"-storys!
Sorry for this post (for all people reading this junk-discussion)
Sven
Doug Hanks said:
Got bored and did a little test. Feel free to comment.

http://www.radixphoto.com/d1x-vs-10d/

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work_permit said:
Even Doug feels guilty comparing the performance of the 10D
outfitted with a $400 consumer lens vrs the D1x outfitted with an
$1800 professional lens
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The E10D does not work well with consumer lenses, that'a the advantage of the D100 it works well with most, even good manual lenses will work well. It's an expensive business not knowing if your several thousands of $$ is being sunk into 2nd best. Best of stick with Nikon, lot less headache.

Michael
 
now, this is a much more reasonable comparison.

pretty much in line with what i think about the 10D: images have less contrast out of the box. i cannot comment on the color because i have not seen the actual painting. i still think it's a contrast (rather than saturation) issue.
Doug Hanks said:
I'm sorry for the unfair comparison. It was a lack of my
familiarity with Canon lenses.

I have redone the rest with top-of-the-line prime lenses from both
sides of the fence.

http://www.radixphoto.com/d1x-vs-10d-50mm/

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Hi Doug

I almost feel you did this one for me. Second report is very good. Overall I presume the test is just showing image quality & resolution. If you did a head to head on all aspects the D1'x would win on almost every count.. Its always difficult not to get slated with this sort of post. However some people really do want to know the difference & for those who do, I feel this is a good post

Regards S1m0n

D1x
28-70 Afs
70-300 Afd



Homepage http://www.hopegood.net/pictures/
 
D100freak said:
The 10D cannot even produce better image
quality than the D100 or its own sibling D60.
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Really? What planet do you come from. I guess you know more then Phil also. 10D will run circles around the D100. I just picked up a Coolpix 4500. What a big mistake. 4500 is a step backwards.
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Never say comparing a two year old camera to a brand new camera is like comparing a Pentium III against an AMD 2600.

Matter of fact the Nikon D1X has a DUAL processor RISC while the Canon 10D has the same digicam processor as the Canon G3. How does that suit you?

Why is it not a fair comparison? Because one costs $4000? So what?

The $1500 Canon 10D came REAL close to a $4000 camera -- doesn't that make at least someone HAPPY?

It really makes me angry when I spend 4 hours doing a review for this forum and someone like you comes along and marginalises it into something "silly."
little_beginner said:
Doug Hanks said:
Got bored and did a little test. Feel free to comment.

http://www.radixphoto.com/d1x-vs-10d/

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'Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who Threaten It.'
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