Dynamic Range Perception : Poll/Survey

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I have taken 4 clips of controlled lighting static scene test captures, thanks to imaging-resource.com. I would like for a few people to list in order, with ratings (1) being the 'best' and (4) being the worst, what they believe looks like preserves both hilight AND shadow details in teh best visible balance. Each example is identified as (A), (B), (C) and (D) at the far right of each image. I suggest using the 'EXPAND WIDTH' java funcitno button that this site gives you as an option over teh posted images. Feel free to play with your monitor's contrast and brightness controls if you can't tell enough difference to give an answer. NOTE: LCD monitors and some 'old' crt monitors will proably not be useful for this comparison.

I will identify A, B, C and D in a day or so after I get a few responses. BTW, NO cheating by going to imaging-resource and trying to find the exact matches before giving your answer. Then your answer would be biased, now wouldn't it? :-)

For those who might not for some reason know what I am referring to, here is a synthetic example at two extremes to make it clear:



Now, on to the poll. These samples had only one modification made to them from teh orginal file(s): they were all resampled to the same physical dimensions.



Thanks in advance for your assistance.

-Chris

Though not to sceintific standards, the images used above employ the highest level of controls that I know of from the cameras being compared that are avaialble.
 
I have taken 4 clips of controlled lighting static scene test
captures, thanks to imaging-resource.com. I would like for a few
people to list in order, with ratings (1) being the 'best' and (4)
being the worst, what they believe looks like preserves both
hilight AND shadow details in teh best visible balance. Each
example is identified as (A), (B), (C) and (D) at the far right of
each image. I suggest using the 'EXPAND WIDTH' java funcitno button
that this site gives you as an option over teh posted images. Feel
free to play with your monitor's contrast and brightness controls
if you can't tell enough difference to give an answer. NOTE: LCD
monitors and some 'old' crt monitors will proably not be useful for
this comparison.


I will identify A, B, C and D in a day or so after I get a few
responses. BTW, NO cheating by going to imaging-resource and trying
to find the exact matches before giving your answer. Then your
answer would be biased, now wouldn't it? :-)

For those who might not for some reason know what I am referring
to, here is a synthetic example at two extremes to make it clear:



Now, on to the poll. These samples had only one modification made
to them from teh orginal file(s): they were all resampled to the
same physical dimensions.



Thanks in advance for your assistance.

-Chris

Though not to sceintific standards, the images used above employ
the highest level of controls that I know of from the cameras being
compared that are avaialble.
--
Best to worst: A - B - C - D per my eyes and monitor.

Happy shooting

Mike Chinnock
Sanyo VPC-250, VPC-350X; HP C912; Fuji S602
Sunpak 611; Kenko VC-200 HI
 
In order to help the usefulness of this poll; please state whether your monitor is LCD or CRT and if it is calibrated or not.

Thanks.

-Chris
 
b
a
d
c

formac 17.4 calibrated tft monitor
mac g4

ie.5.2

btw

Amongst other uncontrolled factors is the browser rendering engine and ambient lighting

Mike Bee
 
B

But, what matters is that people have there monitors calabrated.

check out:

http://digiprintstore.com/color-chart.htm

http://epaperpress.com/monitorcal/

http://www.monitorsdirect.com/toolkit/

Morris
I have taken 4 clips of controlled lighting static scene test
captures, thanks to imaging-resource.com. I would like for a few
people to list in order, with ratings (1) being the 'best' and (4)
being the worst, what they believe looks like preserves both
hilight AND shadow details in teh best visible balance. Each
example is identified as (A), (B), (C) and (D) at the far right of
each image. I suggest using the 'EXPAND WIDTH' java funcitno button
that this site gives you as an option over teh posted images. Feel
free to play with your monitor's contrast and brightness controls
if you can't tell enough difference to give an answer. NOTE: LCD
monitors and some 'old' crt monitors will proably not be useful for
this comparison.


I will identify A, B, C and D in a day or so after I get a few
responses. BTW, NO cheating by going to imaging-resource and trying
to find the exact matches before giving your answer. Then your
answer would be biased, now wouldn't it? :-)

For those who might not for some reason know what I am referring
to, here is a synthetic example at two extremes to make it clear:



Now, on to the poll. These samples had only one modification made
to them from teh orginal file(s): they were all resampled to the
same physical dimensions.



Thanks in advance for your assistance.

-Chris

Though not to sceintific standards, the images used above employ
the highest level of controls that I know of from the cameras being
compared that are avaialble.
 
CRT Calibrated by Adoby Gama

Morris
But, what matters is that people have there monitors calabrated.

check out:

http://digiprintstore.com/color-chart.htm

http://epaperpress.com/monitorcal/

http://www.monitorsdirect.com/toolkit/

Morris
I have taken 4 clips of controlled lighting static scene test
captures, thanks to imaging-resource.com. I would like for a few
people to list in order, with ratings (1) being the 'best' and (4)
being the worst, what they believe looks like preserves both
hilight AND shadow details in teh best visible balance. Each
example is identified as (A), (B), (C) and (D) at the far right of
each image. I suggest using the 'EXPAND WIDTH' java funcitno button
that this site gives you as an option over teh posted images. Feel
free to play with your monitor's contrast and brightness controls
if you can't tell enough difference to give an answer. NOTE: LCD
monitors and some 'old' crt monitors will proably not be useful for
this comparison.


I will identify A, B, C and D in a day or so after I get a few
responses. BTW, NO cheating by going to imaging-resource and trying
to find the exact matches before giving your answer. Then your
answer would be biased, now wouldn't it? :-)

For those who might not for some reason know what I am referring
to, here is a synthetic example at two extremes to make it clear:



Now, on to the poll. These samples had only one modification made
to them from teh orginal file(s): they were all resampled to the
same physical dimensions.



Thanks in advance for your assistance.

-Chris

Though not to sceintific standards, the images used above employ
the highest level of controls that I know of from the cameras being
compared that are avaialble.
 
B-1
C-2
A-3
D-4

Timothy Dunnigan
http://www.helpforfamilies.com/photos/index.htm
http://www.pbase.com/tdunnigan/
I have taken 4 clips of controlled lighting static scene test
captures, thanks to imaging-resource.com. I would like for a few
people to list in order, with ratings (1) being the 'best' and (4)
being the worst, what they believe looks like preserves both
hilight AND shadow details in teh best visible balance. Each
example is identified as (A), (B), (C) and (D) at the far right of
each image. I suggest using the 'EXPAND WIDTH' java funcitno button
that this site gives you as an option over teh posted images. Feel
free to play with your monitor's contrast and brightness controls
if you can't tell enough difference to give an answer. NOTE: LCD
monitors and some 'old' crt monitors will proably not be useful for
this comparison.


I will identify A, B, C and D in a day or so after I get a few
responses. BTW, NO cheating by going to imaging-resource and trying
to find the exact matches before giving your answer. Then your
answer would be biased, now wouldn't it? :-)

For those who might not for some reason know what I am referring
to, here is a synthetic example at two extremes to make it clear:



Now, on to the poll. These samples had only one modification made
to them from teh orginal file(s): they were all resampled to the
same physical dimensions.



Thanks in advance for your assistance.

-Chris

Though not to sceintific standards, the images used above employ
the highest level of controls that I know of from the cameras being
compared that are avaialble.
 
I see most folks are using CRTs, so I opted to have a look using the wife's iBook. There is a nominal difference between the left (dark) images and the right ones (light). Enough to warrant two different ratings using this LCD (no callibration). I went in to a dark hallway (no ambient lighting) to view the pics:

Left Ones (dark):
B, C, A, D

Right Ones (light):
A, B, C, D

Don't know if this will be helpful at all, but there you go.

best,
shudder
 
Thanks for the links; i should have included similar ones in the initial post. But, it was quite late(yawn) when i had the notion to post this thing.

-Chris
But, what matters is that people have there monitors calabrated.

check out:

http://digiprintstore.com/color-chart.htm

http://epaperpress.com/monitorcal/

http://www.monitorsdirect.com/toolkit/

Morris
I have taken 4 clips of controlled lighting static scene test
captures, thanks to imaging-resource.com. I would like for a few
people to list in order, with ratings (1) being the 'best' and (4)
being the worst, what they believe looks like preserves both
hilight AND shadow details in teh best visible balance. Each
example is identified as (A), (B), (C) and (D) at the far right of
each image. I suggest using the 'EXPAND WIDTH' java funcitno button
that this site gives you as an option over teh posted images. Feel
free to play with your monitor's contrast and brightness controls
if you can't tell enough difference to give an answer. NOTE: LCD
monitors and some 'old' crt monitors will proably not be useful for
this comparison.


I will identify A, B, C and D in a day or so after I get a few
responses. BTW, NO cheating by going to imaging-resource and trying
to find the exact matches before giving your answer. Then your
answer would be biased, now wouldn't it? :-)

For those who might not for some reason know what I am referring
to, here is a synthetic example at two extremes to make it clear:



Now, on to the poll. These samples had only one modification made
to them from teh orginal file(s): they were all resampled to the
same physical dimensions.



Thanks in advance for your assistance.

-Chris

Though not to sceintific standards, the images used above employ
the highest level of controls that I know of from the cameras being
compared that are avaialble.
 
btw
Amongst other uncontrolled factors is the browser rendering engine
and ambient lighting

Mike Bee
Yes. But this test is primarily aimed at what various people are 'percieving' on their computers. I already know which order the images rank, by a more objective analysis of the full test targets. I want to see how this filters down to percieved level through the many typical variable to see how this correlates with the actual ranking. Though I should have included a gamma/white point calibration link as morris suggested.

-Chris
 
This poll requies taking into account the left and right sections of each item(a, b, c, d) and identifying which one you feel displays the most balanced level of highlites and shadows(not nearing exposure limits while still being able to show detail in the shadows). It would not be useful to rate teh left and right sides independantly.

Thanks.

-Chris
Left Ones (dark):
B, C, A, D

Right Ones (light):
A, B, C, D

Don't know if this will be helpful at all, but there you go.

best,
shudder
 
WmAx wrote:
This poll requies taking into account the left and right sections
of each item(a, b, c, d) and identifying which one you feel
displays the most balanced level of highlites and shadows(not
nearing exposure limits while still being able to show detail in
the shadows). It would not be useful to rate teh left and right
sides independantly.
Alright then...

A, B, C, D

Again, Apple iBook, uncalibrated LCD.

best,
shudder
 
C 1 B 2 A 3 D 4

so what's the answer ? :)
I have taken 4 clips of controlled lighting static scene test
captures, thanks to imaging-resource.com. I would like for a few
people to list in order, with ratings (1) being the 'best' and (4)
being the worst, what they believe looks like preserves both
hilight AND shadow details in teh best visible balance. Each
example is identified as (A), (B), (C) and (D) at the far right of
each image. I suggest using the 'EXPAND WIDTH' java funcitno button
that this site gives you as an option over teh posted images. Feel
free to play with your monitor's contrast and brightness controls
if you can't tell enough difference to give an answer. NOTE: LCD
monitors and some 'old' crt monitors will proably not be useful for
this comparison.


I will identify A, B, C and D in a day or so after I get a few
responses. BTW, NO cheating by going to imaging-resource and trying
to find the exact matches before giving your answer. Then your
answer would be biased, now wouldn't it? :-)

For those who might not for some reason know what I am referring
to, here is a synthetic example at two extremes to make it clear:



Now, on to the poll. These samples had only one modification made
to them from teh orginal file(s): they were all resampled to the
same physical dimensions.



Thanks in advance for your assistance.

-Chris

Though not to sceintific standards, the images used above employ
the highest level of controls that I know of from the cameras being
compared that are avaialble.
--
-harry-
 
I've just read this

WmAx wrote:

"This poll requies taking into account the left and right sections of each item(a, b, c, d) and identifying which one you feel displays the most balanced level of highlites and shadows(not nearing exposure limits while still being able to show detail in the shadows). It would not be useful to rate teh left and right sides independantly.

Thanks. "

In this case My rating would be A1 B2 C3 D4
and I'm still curious to know the answer :)
C 1 B 2 A 3 D 4

so what's the answer ? :)
I have taken 4 clips of controlled lighting static scene test
captures, thanks to imaging-resource.com. I would like for a few
people to list in order, with ratings (1) being the 'best' and (4)
being the worst, what they believe looks like preserves both
hilight AND shadow details in teh best visible balance. Each
example is identified as (A), (B), (C) and (D) at the far right of
each image. I suggest using the 'EXPAND WIDTH' java funcitno button
that this site gives you as an option over teh posted images. Feel
free to play with your monitor's contrast and brightness controls
if you can't tell enough difference to give an answer. NOTE: LCD
monitors and some 'old' crt monitors will proably not be useful for
this comparison.


I will identify A, B, C and D in a day or so after I get a few
responses. BTW, NO cheating by going to imaging-resource and trying
to find the exact matches before giving your answer. Then your
answer would be biased, now wouldn't it? :-)

For those who might not for some reason know what I am referring
to, here is a synthetic example at two extremes to make it clear:



Now, on to the poll. These samples had only one modification made
to them from teh orginal file(s): they were all resampled to the
same physical dimensions.



Thanks in advance for your assistance.

-Chris

Though not to sceintific standards, the images used above employ
the highest level of controls that I know of from the cameras being
compared that are avaialble.
--
-harry-
--
-harry-
 
In this case My rating would be A1 B2 C3 D4
and I'm still curious to know the answer :)
C 1 B 2 A 3 D 4

so what's the answer ? :)
Only 9(well one person only ranked the no. 1 opinion of his) people have answered so far. I really want to know the opininon of about 15-20 minimum before I I.D. the cameras. But please, as I suggested in teh first post; feel free to adjust your monitor brightness, etc.(this is a relative comparison - and any monitor adjustment will effect all the images equally) in order to judeg if you need too. I am only counting the latest ranking from each person(a couple of people have already revised their intial ranking) until I close the survey.

Here is the summary so far:

A 1 2 2 3 3 2 1 1

B 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2

C 3 3 4 2 2 3 3 3

D 4 4 3 4 4 4 4 4

-Chris
I have taken 4 clips of controlled lighting static scene test
captures, thanks to imaging-resource.com. I would like for a few
people to list in order, with ratings (1) being the 'best' and (4)
being the worst, what they believe looks like preserves both
hilight AND shadow details in teh best visible balance. Each
example is identified as (A), (B), (C) and (D) at the far right of
each image. I suggest using the 'EXPAND WIDTH' java funcitno button
that this site gives you as an option over teh posted images. Feel
free to play with your monitor's contrast and brightness controls
if you can't tell enough difference to give an answer. NOTE: LCD
monitors and some 'old' crt monitors will proably not be useful for
this comparison.


I will identify A, B, C and D in a day or so after I get a few
responses. BTW, NO cheating by going to imaging-resource and trying
to find the exact matches before giving your answer. Then your
answer would be biased, now wouldn't it? :-)

For those who might not for some reason know what I am referring
to, here is a synthetic example at two extremes to make it clear:



Now, on to the poll. These samples had only one modification made
to them from teh orginal file(s): they were all resampled to the
same physical dimensions.



Thanks in advance for your assistance.

-Chris

Though not to sceintific standards, the images used above employ
the highest level of controls that I know of from the cameras being
compared that are avaialble.
--
-harry-
--
-harry-
 

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