Perfect example of Photographer

Mishkin · Apr 25, 2003

I DO think so. No electrodes, please

OT - I wonder how 110V shock feels. I know how 220V shock feels -- awesome!

))

DavidP said:
Come on, admit it, Mishkin.

We all KNOW that you think owning a better camera and lens will
make you a better photographer.

Don't you?

grabs electrodes and places them together (maniacal laughter
follows)

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The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

--
Mishkin

Derekasaurus Rex · Apr 25, 2003

I'm not disputing your point, but I'm quite tired of the regular posts bashing expensive equipment and showing web-sized images to "prove" it. You can shoot through a Coke bottle and it will look pretty good at that size.

jdobbs2001 said:
Anyhow You do not need L glass or a DSLR to take great pictures.
Impressive work. It all depends on the person behind the viewfinder
not investments of money in hardware.

http://www.pbase.com/zylen

Kiran P · Apr 25, 2003

Gaetan J. said:
could it be that you are holding the camera the wrong way ? Or
maybe you have a focus problem. Some 10d have a focus problem from
what I have read on the forum.

No no... its me! I am looking into front and back focusing cause I may have just a slight touch, but after seeing my 75-300 pics, its that old camera shake again creeping up. I really must have been spoiled with that light Oly2100 with IS and definately cannot get the same shots I used to get with my sloppy technique that I used to use. I only got some sharp shots from today... about 5% maybe, but hey, starting off with such a low number, it can only get better! If you're curious... I posted in this thread the two pics that I really liked.... and of course the ones that weren't blurry!!!! ha ha... its great to laugh at yourself.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=4957336

Kiran

Chuck A · Apr 25, 2003

Daniella's work is wonderful. I have been looking at it for a while. What does it matter what camera she uses. If she uses a 2mp camera than the only problem is in making large prints. It doesn't effect the images she takes.

I like a technical discussion as much as the next guy or girl, but the cameras we use don't define us as photographers. It's the images we take.

I think that was the message of the original post.

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Thanks & God Bless,
Chuck
http://www.pbase.com/candrask

DavidP #28649 · Apr 25, 2003

Or maybe only 1/4 as good. Power changes with the square of voltate, don't ya know.

Mishkin said:
I DO think so. No electrodes, please

OT - I wonder how 110V shock feels. I know how 220V shock feels --
awesome! ))

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

DavidP #28649 · Apr 25, 2003

Yes, this is true.

And all the others were really saying is that the equipment can LIMIT how we're able to define ourselves. Depends on the type of photography.

Ansel Adams may have been a great photographer -- but I doubt he'd have been very famous if limited to a Kodak Instamatic. Not that he couldn't compose great images with it, mind you.

Chuck A said:
I like a technical discussion as much as the next guy or girl, but
the cameras we use don't define us as photographers. It's the
images we take.

I think that was the message of the original post.

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

Mishkin · Apr 25, 2003

You should definitely try that more powerful sensation, David. Rush to RadioShack and buy that 110 to 220 converter. You need to charge yourself before that exhausting 11-hr shoot of tomorrow!

LOL

DavidP said:
Mishkin said:

I DO think so. No electrodes, please

OT - I wonder how 110V shock feels. I know how 220V shock feels --
awesome! ))

Click to expand...

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The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

--
Mishkin

DavidP #28649 · Apr 25, 2003

Well, maybe a dishwasher is only 110v.

I was holding onto the metal part of a dishwasher when I was a kid, and reach over to turn on the water. (This was one of those units you had to hook up to the faucet to run).

Nothing really shocking. Just a really funny sensation.

I didn't feel so good afterwards. LOL.

Mishkin said:
You should definitely try that more powerful sensation, David. Rush
to RadioShack and buy that 110 to 220 converter. You need to charge
yourself before that exhausting 11-hr shoot of tomorrow!

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

Jay · Apr 25, 2003

I agree with your point to an extent. You cannot improve your style, composition, asthetics with more expensive equipment...But, more expensive equipment give frequently give you more latitude to express your creativity. For example, you can may get more dynamic range with more expensive camera and that give you ability to take some shots that you may never thought possible.

To make my point, check out this imperfect shot I recently took with my D30...I really wanted to use 30+ sec expsorure for this shot, but my old D30 was too grainy (i.e. too many hot pixels) for such long exposures, so I had to settle for 8 sec exposure on D30 which left some visible texture in the water: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1351758

-Jay

jdobbs2001 said:
Anyhow You do not need L glass or a DSLR to take great pictures.
Impressive work. It all depends on the person behind the viewfinder
not investments of money in hardware.

http://www.pbase.com/zylen

DavidP #28649 · Apr 25, 2003

If your current equipment won't let you shoot at f/1.4, it's certainly limiting your style.

You might even be able to improve your style with a new lens. Or maybe not. Just depends.

Jay said:
I agree with your point to an extent. You cannot improve your
style, composition, asthetics with more expensive equipment...

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http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

Jason Hutchinson · Apr 25, 2003

I think you two need to try out the 95KV 1MW power supply at work. In fact, I think we can boost her up to 140KV special for you guys. You guys can be the conductor in the wire test.

Jason

DavidP said:
I was holding onto the metal part of a dishwasher when I was a kid,
and reach over to turn on the water. (This was one of those units
you had to hook up to the faucet to run).

Nothing really shocking. Just a really funny sensation.

I didn't feel so good afterwards. LOL.

Mishkin said:

You should definitely try that more powerful sensation, David. Rush
to RadioShack and buy that 110 to 220 converter. You need to charge
yourself before that exhausting 11-hr shoot of tomorrow!

Click to expand...

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

DavidP #28649 · Apr 25, 2003

Will it solve my front-focusing problems?

And will it make me a better photographer?

I think so, as I'll probably be providing my own lighting after that experience.

Jason Hutchinson said:
I think you two need to try out the 95KV 1MW power supply at work.
In fact, I think we can boost her up to 140KV special for you guys.
You guys can be the conductor in the wire test.

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

Mishkin · Apr 25, 2003

I remember we had some kind of high-voltage generator (Van-der-Graaf? don't remember) at school, so several of kids would chain hands and touch the generator. Those foot-long sparks and lifting hair were awesome!!

Jason Hutchinson said:
Jason

DavidP said:

I was holding onto the metal part of a dishwasher when I was a kid,
and reach over to turn on the water. (This was one of those units
you had to hook up to the faucet to run).

Nothing really shocking. Just a really funny sensation.

I didn't feel so good afterwards. LOL.

Mishkin said:

You should definitely try that more powerful sensation, David. Rush
to RadioShack and buy that 110 to 220 converter. You need to charge
yourself before that exhausting 11-hr shoot of tomorrow!

Click to expand...

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

Click to expand...

--
Mishkin

DavidP #28649 · Apr 25, 2003

It may have been 95kv, but no WAY was it 1MW. lol

Mishkin said:
Jason Hutchinson said:

I think you two need to try out the 95KV 1MW power supply at work.
In fact, I think we can boost her up to 140KV special for you guys.
You guys can be the conductor in the wire test.

Click to expand...

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

Jason Hutchinson · Apr 25, 2003

They have quite a few too... I can't imagine their electric bill. Then again, with all the experiments going on there, they probably create their own.

Jason

DavidP said:
Mishkin said:

Jason Hutchinson said:

I think you two need to try out the 95KV 1MW power supply at work.
In fact, I think we can boost her up to 140KV special for you guys.
You guys can be the conductor in the wire test.

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

DavidP #28649 · Apr 25, 2003

WE pay for it. LOL.

Jason Hutchinson said:
They have quite a few too... I can't imagine their electric bill.
Then again, with all the experiments going on there, they probably
create their own.

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

Rob Martin · Apr 25, 2003

as with a few other posters, the original post couldn't care less about her work, which is exceptional, he cares about telling people who own good equipment that they've wasted their collective time and that they should go and buy digicams or video. He then proceeded to contradict his orginal statement with a post that said the opposite.

Looking at some of the pictures, the Camera was a limitation for sure. But the image intent was intact. I quite liked looking through her protfolio.

Chuck A said:
Daniella's work is wonderful. I have been looking at it for a
while. What does it matter what camera she uses. If she uses a 2mp
camera than the only problem is in making large prints. It doesn't
effect the images she takes.

I like a technical discussion as much as the next guy or girl, but
the cameras we use don't define us as photographers. It's the
images we take.

I think that was the message of the original post.

--
Thanks & God Bless,
Chuck
http://www.pbase.com/candrask

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if you take the time to do something urgent, make sure it is important .............................

smoody · Apr 26, 2003

Kev King said:
Sure, she could make big prints with a higher res camera. So what.
That doesn't make her any less of a photographer. People who shoot
like this (very well) and arn't afraid to show it are the real
heros of this art form. She doesn't have to justify herself by
touting the abillity to blow up a wall sized print. If that was
the glory and gradification she was after, that's what she would be
doing... but she's not. She's trying to capture her vision on
film, and that's all that matters.

Actually, she IS looking to blow-up her prints. She has a post on this forum asking for blow-up printing opinions because people want to buy her prints. I suspect that's how she came to the attention of the original poster.

For me, printing is what it's all about. That doesn't mean that I'm after "glory or gradification." I love the quality of prints. I love looking at images that reflect the light, not give off ther own light. I love the way images change the environment in which they hang. I love giving big prints to friends who can't afford "art" but could really use something to put on their walls. I can stare at a big print from a distance and appreciate it in a way I can't a screen-sized version of it. I've printed a lot of images from my Minolta DiMAGE F100, my Sony F717, and my Canon DSLRs. The DSLRs don't make me a better photographer, but when looking at the DSLR prints, I find that it is so close to reality that I can't help but to smile.

Also, I don't post most of my work on my pbase site, so it's best not to judge me on what I have up there.

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Chuck A · Apr 26, 2003

To me the work is where it is at. I too would love to see Daniellas work larger. Although she does use a 5mp D7 for some stuff.

But, I agree that she could benefit technically from a DSLR. There could be larger prints and less noise in them.

--
Thanks & God Bless,
Chuck
http://www.pbase.com/candrask

Rob Martin said:
Looking at some of the pictures, the Camera was a limitation for
sure. But the image intent was intact. I quite liked looking
through her protfolio.

Chuck A said:

Daniella's work is wonderful. I have been looking at it for a
while. What does it matter what camera she uses. If she uses a 2mp
camera than the only problem is in making large prints. It doesn't
effect the images she takes.

I like a technical discussion as much as the next guy or girl, but
the cameras we use don't define us as photographers. It's the
images we take.

I think that was the message of the original post.

--
Thanks & God Bless,
Chuck
http://www.pbase.com/candrask

Click to expand...

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if you take the time to do something urgent, make sure it is
important .............................

stuart82021 · Apr 26, 2003

Your photography is incredible!!! There are no words to describe your images. I wish I had your skills and talent. Stuart.

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