local Canon's focus test set up, (image).

I just dropped my D60 off at KEH today, and ordered a 10D from CompUSA. I wonder what'll happen if I run my D60 service program with the cable connected to the 10D?

BTW: Before I bought my D60, I checked with the parts department to ensure that the service manual was available to end users. I was assured that it was.

When I called to order it a month later, I was given that "only to authorized servicers" line. I insisted that I had bought the camera based on the promise that the manual WAS available, and they finally relented.

Other idea: If you have the part number, just bury in an order with some other items, such as a spare LCD window, battery hatch, etc. (If someone has these part numbers already, please post them. )
 
or anyone who has bought from there already. Just ask for availabilty on a D60 part number you know and shift the conversation to the 10D. You may have to lie too.
and inquired about a part and was greeted with "are you an
authorized repair agent" or something similar. Replied "yes", then
was asked for my account number. Talked my way out of that but if
this happens to anyone who has never bought from Canon parts before
then just hang up and call back. Hopefully you'll get someone else
who doesn't ask questions. It all depends on who you speak with it
seems unless they have really changed their policy which I doubt.
--
Mishkin
--
Mishkin
 
preferably during the exchange period of the vendor's return policy.
I just dropped my D60 off at KEH today, and ordered a 10D from
CompUSA. I wonder what'll happen if I run my D60 service program
with the cable connected to the 10D?

BTW: Before I bought my D60, I checked with the parts department
to ensure that the service manual was available to end users. I
was assured that it was.
When I called to order it a month later, I was given that "only to
authorized servicers" line. I insisted that I had bought the
camera based on the promise that the manual WAS available, and they
finally relented.

Other idea: If you have the part number, just bury in an order
with some other items, such as a spare LCD window, battery hatch,
etc. (If someone has these part numbers already, please post them.
)
 
Thanks, Doug, I will try these tactics. I would love to have 10D service manual, although I don't have any problems with my 10D. Just in case, and just to play with it.
I just dropped my D60 off at KEH today, and ordered a 10D from
CompUSA. I wonder what'll happen if I run my D60 service program
with the cable connected to the 10D?

BTW: Before I bought my D60, I checked with the parts department
to ensure that the service manual was available to end users. I
was assured that it was.
When I called to order it a month later, I was given that "only to
authorized servicers" line. I insisted that I had bought the
camera based on the promise that the manual WAS available, and they
finally relented.

Other idea: If you have the part number, just bury in an order
with some other items, such as a spare LCD window, battery hatch,
etc. (If someone has these part numbers already, please post them.
)
--
Mishkin
 
Hugo, remember our talk in the phone?

As I said, Canon need clear evidence from owner to prove their units have flaw. I think we finally win because of internet forum like here and others where people share their knowledge and experience in finding facts. I sure Canon had read this forum and others and they can't hide away from their responsibility.

Where is PearlRider?

I hope we could discuss DSLR here in a rational and friendly atmosphere, and hope we enjoy photography as well as our tools, which not all the time good enough, especially for these sophiscated high tech. equipment.

I hope we don't use "Do not buy 10D" or "it's a troll" statement as the title, we just tell the facts and try to find out solution together.

Let's start again!
A perfectly calibrated camera/lens can still misfocus (and usually
will) when the lighting/contrast gets low.
That means the Canon Technician took my 24-70L out to this thing
several times to adjust focus. I still remember he said some like
"already 1 scale forwards still rear?" It seems what he get
calibrated on this scale did not turn out to be good in real life.
He was quite puzzle.
--
--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
--
My dirty uploads:

http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?sort=rating-d&id=43271

--
Go ahead, never look back
 
Hugo, remember our talk in the phone?
As I said, Canon need clear evidence from owner to prove their
units have flaw. I think we finally win because of internet forum
like here and others where people share their knowledge and
experience in finding facts. I sure Canon had read this forum and
others and they can't hide away from their responsibility.
I would think the BEST thing is to send the camera in and let Canon determine what's broken and what isn't. Unless you've been through school for this type of work and have progressed through their factory training classes, they wouldn't take your word for it. And as for Canon reading this forum, that MIGHT be true but the best thing is to contact them directly. Log a complaint so they can add it to their stats.
Where is PearlRider?
I'm right here!!! Did ya miss me or something? ;-) Seriously, did you need something?
I hope we could discuss DSLR here in a rational and friendly
atmosphere, and hope we enjoy photography as well as our tools,
which not all the time good enough, especially for these
sophiscated high tech. equipment.
Uh, isn't that you've BEEN doing???
I hope we don't use "Do not buy 10D" or "it's a troll" statement as
the title, we just tell the facts and try to find out solution
together.
Gosh, me too.
Let's start again!
Start again? Hasn't this type of discussion been an on-going saga without any true resolution? If it ever ended, I must've missed it. DANG!!! ;-)
 
I wonder what it would cost for Canon to put on a training session
for a bunch of us measurebators?

I'd be up for it. I wanna know how to servie my camera, and what
tools to get to do it.

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
I guess I'm just psychic. ;-)

Actually, a friend of mine DID inquire about that very thing and I can't remember the exact cost but it was quite expensive to become certified by Canon. You have to go through the WHOLE enchilada.
 
I'm right here!!! Did ya miss me or something? ;-) Seriously, did
Let's start again!
Start again? Hasn't this type of discussion been an on-going saga
without any true resolution? If it ever ended, I must've missed it.
DANG!!! ;-)
What I mean start again is we start to discuss things in a friendly and rational armosphere, not the same as what happened before.

Sorry my wording is not clear enough and a bit confusing.
 
I'd be up for it. I wanna know how to servie my camera, and what
tools to get to do it.
I just need that darn Multiple Tool II. I'm very disappointed that I can't adjust my E-TTL without it. I bet anyone who can change oil on his or her own car can do it easily.

--
Ray Chen
 
I'm right here!!! Did ya miss me or something? ;-) Seriously, did
Let's start again!
Start again? Hasn't this type of discussion been an on-going saga
without any true resolution? If it ever ended, I must've missed it.
DANG!!! ;-)
What I mean start again is we start to discuss things in a friendly
and rational armosphere, not the same as what happened before.

Sorry my wording is not clear enough and a bit confusing.
 
The tool's required to CALIBRATE it. But can you ADJUST it without it?

Who needs the danged tool. Just shoot a gray card (spot-metered) until the histogram is in the right spot.

This assumes your ISO is adjusted properly, of course (yes, there's an adjustment for THAT on the 1D)
I just need that darn Multiple Tool II. I'm very disappointed that
I can't adjust my E-TTL without it. I bet anyone who can change
oil on his or her own car can do it easily.
--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
 
Who needs the danged tool. Just shoot a gray card (spot-metered)
until the histogram is in the right spot.

This assumes your ISO is adjusted properly, of course (yes, there's
an adjustment for THAT on the 1D)
I just need that darn Multiple Tool II. I'm very disappointed that
I can't adjust my E-TTL without it. I bet anyone who can change
oil on his or her own car can do it easily.
The camera simply would not connect without the tool. I did a dry run, and it was as easy as moving a slider. Worse yet, I don't think the tool is really needed except for focuse adjustment. I think changing E-TTL compensation only updates a EPROM value.

I also want to change my image prefix to something like BABE and change my image counter to a huge number-all impossible without that tool!

--
Ray Chen
 
I had thought about calling and asking what they charge for that
part. It can't be THAT expensive, can it?
No, I have not. By looking at its icon on the splash screen, I bet it'll cost more than a new 1Ds. I could be wrong though, so I may give them a call tomorrow...

--
Ray Chen
 
I gotta know what it costs.

Maybe a bunch of us should get together and time-share with one. LOL.
No, I have not. By looking at its icon on the splash screen, I bet
it'll cost more than a new 1Ds. I could be wrong though, so I may
give them a call tomorrow...

--
Ray Chen
--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
 
Canon HK told me that there will be a whole new lot of 10D coming next Monday. I think it will take one of two weeks for the retailers to have them. It is time to buy one now. I am not in HK for two days, which I borrowed a D60 for fun. I will buy a new 10D next week. Reasons: 1)there could be higher chances of getting a good unit now. 2)Canon HK will be much easy for issues, if any, from then on. Good luck.
As I said, Canon need clear evidence from owner to prove their
units have flaw. I think we finally win because of internet forum
like here and others where people share their knowledge and
experience in finding facts. I sure Canon had read this forum and
others and they can't hide away from their responsibility.

Where is PearlRider?
I hope we could discuss DSLR here in a rational and friendly
atmosphere, and hope we enjoy photography as well as our tools,
which not all the time good enough, especially for these
sophiscated high tech. equipment.

I hope we don't use "Do not buy 10D" or "it's a troll" statement as
the title, we just tell the facts and try to find out solution
together.

Let's start again!
A perfectly calibrated camera/lens can still misfocus (and usually
will) when the lighting/contrast gets low.
That means the Canon Technician took my 24-70L out to this thing
several times to adjust focus. I still remember he said some like
"already 1 scale forwards still rear?" It seems what he get
calibrated on this scale did not turn out to be good in real life.
He was quite puzzle.
--
--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
--
My dirty uploads:

http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?sort=rating-d&id=43271

--
Go ahead, never look back
--
My dirty uploads:

http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?sort=rating-d&id=43271

 
I'm right here!!! Did ya miss me or something? ;-) Seriously, did
Let's start again!
Start again? Hasn't this type of discussion been an on-going saga
without any true resolution? If it ever ended, I must've missed it.
DANG!!! ;-)
What I mean start again is we start to discuss things in a friendly
and rational armosphere, not the same as what happened before.

Sorry my wording is not clear enough and a bit confusing.
--
My dirty uploads:

http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?sort=rating-d&id=43271

 

Keyboard shortcuts

Back
Top