Canon 10D vs Nikon D100

I am thinking about buying a new D-SLR camera. And I have a hard decision to make between those two cameras. Both of them looks atractive and I dont have any equpment from any of these companies.

What sugestions can you give me about this decision? What to choose?

Do a Search here using '10D vs. D100' as your keywords.
You'll be reading for a long time!

A great comparison list by a user of both systems named kendersplace.
Look for his long post in this thread:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/viewtopic.php?TopicID=9616

D100 is a generation behind. 10D is the clear first choice since you do not have any equipment. Canon lenses are also a better bang for the buck.

Alfred

avovochka said:

I am thinking about buying a new D-SLR camera. And I have a hard
decision to make between those two cameras. Both of them looks
atractive and I dont have any equpment from any of these companies.

What sugestions can you give me about this decision? What to choose?

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JohnM. said:

A great comparison list by a user of both systems named kendersplace.
Look for his long post in this thread:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/viewtopic.php?TopicID=9616

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i agree with the post as listed above i researched very carefully the differences
in the two cameras and sold my f100 nikon on ebay to go digital slr

i bought the canon 10D because of its superiority in technology at least in my opinion

however i ended up with a lemon, I have trouble with the focus on mine but most people probably get units that work fine. In general i felt the Nikon aare built more solid but my only reference is comparing Nikon film cameras to Canon digital cameras.

my recommendation even though i have had mechanical problems with mine is still to go with the Canon although in my experience Nikon has better build quality.

Go with the Canon just buy it from somewhere that has a return policy in case your not happy or end up with a camera that doesn't work. I made the mistake of buying mine mail order and although canon covers all the repairs it would have been much easier to exchange it.

In the Canon Forum you're going to hear, "Buy the 10D of course". In the Nikon Forum you'll hear, "Buy the D100!". Seeing as how I have neither and reading Phil's reviews I would say 10D. Sharper images, better color, less noise.

Bill

avovochka said:

I am thinking about buying a new D-SLR camera. And I have a hard
decision to make between those two cameras. Both of them looks
atractive and I dont have any equpment from any of these companies.

What sugestions can you give me about this decision? What to choose?

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...the D60 was a generation behind the D100, and the 10d has finally caught up.

10d has some interesting perks -- the orientation sensore, the simultaneous RAW+JPG capture option.

D100 has a true spot meter, and by many accounts better software.

I'd also look at the lens line ups of both manufacturers to see which offers the glass most suited to the type of photography you do.

aevoegels said:

Alfred

avovochka said:

I am thinking about buying a new D-SLR camera. And I have a hard
decision to make between those two cameras. Both of them looks
atractive and I dont have any equpment from any of these companies.

What sugestions can you give me about this decision? What to choose?

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avovochka said:

I am thinking about buying a new D-SLR camera. And I have a hard
decision to make between those two cameras. Both of them looks
atractive and I dont have any equpment from any of these companies.

What sugestions can you give me about this decision? What to choose?

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Nikon, they have a large selection of lenses for all needs and keep improving on DSLR technology at a rapid pace and now have a new logo

Phil Flash said:

...the D60 was a generation behind the D100, and the 10d has
finally caught up.

10d has some interesting perks -- the orientation sensore, the
simultaneous RAW+JPG capture option.

D100 has a true spot meter, and by many accounts better software.

I'd also look at the lens line ups of both manufacturers to see
which offers the glass most suited to the type of photography you
do.

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I seriously doubt the person asking will be making use of the spot meter

10D is the best value for dollar right now I do hope Nikon comes out with a 10D killer soon I like to see competition a Nikon D200 for 1200 us dollars with 8mp full frame mag body

I, myself, is now still fiddling over this. I had D100 since Jan and just got 10D a few weeks ago. If you ask me, i would say that I'm still thinking about it but the fact is I have already ordered more Canon gears e.g. EF16-35, EF 24-70, more batteries.

So by behavior, I've chosen Canon. Then I'm writing my personal mini-review about D100 and 10D. Still working on it but... the more I'm writing about them, comparing between the 2, I got hesitated again since the D100. TO ME, the D100 seems to get the edges over 10D.

Again, notice - TO ME (not always to you or to everyones) the D100 is actually suits me better than the 10D. And then why would I go with 10D anyway ? I think afterall, I'd stick with the system (either Canon or Nikon) more than just the camera body (10D or D100). I like the company that is aggressive in marketing and competitive in releasing the products. Basically, I feel that Nikon is too conservative and doesn't listen to the consumers much. The way that 10D was built compare to D60 has indicated that Canon listen to us and make improvements in their product. Since the digital camera is just like a computer that it's value doesn't hold and there will be always a better (much better) model coming out. So most likely that either D100 or 10D won't stay with me for decades !, so I rather stay with the company that is more aggressive !

that's my 0.02

Kui
http://www.digital4to.com

Kui said:

I, myself, is now still fiddling over this. I had D100 since Jan
and just got 10D a few weeks ago. If you ask me, i would say that
I'm still thinking about it but the fact is I have already ordered
more Canon gears e.g. EF16-35, EF 24-70, more batteries.

So by behavior, I've chosen Canon. Then I'm writing my personal
mini-review about D100 and 10D. Still working on it but... the more
I'm writing about them, comparing between the 2, I got hesitated
again since the D100. TO ME, the D100 seems to get the edges over
10D.

Again, notice - TO ME (not always to you or to everyones) the D100
is actually suits me better than the 10D. And then why would I go
with 10D anyway ? I think afterall, I'd stick with the system
(either Canon or Nikon) more than just the camera body (10D or
D100). I like the company that is aggressive in marketing and
competitive in releasing the products. Basically, I feel that Nikon
is too conservative and doesn't listen to the consumers much. The
way that 10D was built compare to D60 has indicated that Canon
listen to us and make improvements in their product. Since the
digital camera is just like a computer that it's value doesn't hold
and there will be always a better (much better) model coming out.
So most likely that either D100 or 10D won't stay with me for
decades !, so I rather stay with the company that is more
aggressive !

that's my 0.02

Kui
http://www.digital4to.com

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Nikon is too conservative even in the glass department. This is why I have chosen Canon I really want to stick with a company that likes to innovate and push the envelope since it will trickle down across the entire product line.

YES

that new logo design was a good responce from NIKON
that will teach CANON a thing or two about competition

bet CANON was blindside with that one

:=))

jdobbs2001 said:

avovochka said:

I am thinking about buying a new D-SLR camera. And I have a hard
decision to make between those two cameras. Both of them looks
atractive and I dont have any equpment from any of these companies.

What sugestions can you give me about this decision? What to choose?

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Nikon, they have a large selection of lenses for all needs and keep
improving on DSLR technology at a rapid pace and now have a new
logo

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Maybe not immediately but as the person learns and develops, he may begin using hte spot meter more and more. and at that time it'll be one less feature he would need in a new camera (i.e. less of a reason to upgrade).

Joo

jdobbs2001 said:

Phil Flash said:

...the D60 was a generation behind the D100, and the 10d has
finally caught up.

10d has some interesting perks -- the orientation sensore, the
simultaneous RAW+JPG capture option.

D100 has a true spot meter, and by many accounts better software.

I'd also look at the lens line ups of both manufacturers to see
which offers the glass most suited to the type of photography you
do.

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I seriously doubt the person asking will be making use of the spot
meter
10D is the best value for dollar right now I do hope Nikon comes
out with a 10D killer soon I like to see competition a Nikon D200
for 1200 us dollars with 8mp full frame mag body

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I have seen advocated the fact that you should chose the lenses to do the job you want and then select the camera based on the lens choice. I would go with that.

avovochka said:

I am thinking about buying a new D-SLR camera. And I have a hard
decision to make between those two cameras. Both of them looks
atractive and I dont have any equpment from any of these companies.

What sugestions can you give me about this decision? What to choose?

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I don't mean to offend, but if you are offended, then maybe you're too sensitive or I've overdone it.

Phil Flash said:

...the D60 was a generation behind the D100, and the 10d has
finally caught up.

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No rational person could possibly agree with this -- the D60 and D100 were, overall, very close -- the D60 had slightly better image quality and buffering, whilst the D100 had slightly better AF and responsiveness. Thus each had its pros and cons, but in totality they were very close. This conclusion was reinforced by every magazine review that I read -- they were rated more or less equally (with, if anything, the balance of ratings falling very slightly in favour of the D60).

However, the 10D has improved on the D60 in almost every respect (with the exception of the sensor pixel-count, which at 6.3 megapixels does not need to be increased in order to meet the demands of most users). In particular, the AF, exposure metering, availability of higher ISO ratings and build quality have all been greatly improved in the 1-D over the D60. So much so that the 10D far surpasses the D100 in terms of AF speed, image noise and build quality.

The current edition of the UK magazine "Professional Photographer" (dated May 2003) contains a review of the 10D, and in its conclusion says of the 10D: "While the D60 sat directly opposite the budget-priced Nikon D100, this camera's improved build quality and higher specification make it more akin to Nikon's upmarket offering, the D1X. At the price, that's pretty remarkable."

The D100 is a nice camera (that is why I bought one when it was launched), but the 10D is far, far better.

Terry.

Phil Flash said:

10d has some interesting perks -- the orientation sensore, the
simultaneous RAW+JPG capture option.

D100 has a true spot meter, and by many accounts better software.

I'd also look at the lens line ups of both manufacturers to see
which offers the glass most suited to the type of photography you
do.

aevoegels said:

Alfred

avovochka said:

I am thinking about buying a new D-SLR camera. And I have a hard
decision to make between those two cameras. Both of them looks
atractive and I dont have any equpment from any of these companies.

What sugestions can you give me about this decision? What to choose?

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I have been a Nikon user for 15 years, so I went into my local Wolf's camera with the intention of shooting some pictures with the Nikon D100 in the store, taking the CF card home and looking at the images on my computer, and then buying it. But they also had one 10D in stock, so I took pictures with both cameras under the same conditions and looked at them on my computer at home. I was really bowled over by how much better the Canon was over the Nikon, especially at the higher iso's (800 and 1600) which is where I do most of my shooting (indoor sports). Well, since the only lens I need for sports phototgraphy with a digital SLR is a 70-200 f2.8, I decided to get the Canon D10 and use my Nikon gear for film photography. I also bought a Sigma 70-200 f2.8 EX HSM which is a fantastic lens.

The reasons I like the Canon more?

1. Lower noise: The 10D has lower noise, which is most noticeable at the higher ISO's. The D100's pictures need NeatImage to look acceptable (and even then they're not as good as the 10D).

2. Sharper jpeg's: The D100's pictures are very, very soft compared to the 10D. Sure, you can shoot raw and use USM after the fact, but I'm not going to bother with that for sports photography. And even then, the results are still not as good as with the 10D.

3. Solid camera: The Magnesium bodied 10D feels much more solid compared to the plasticky D100. I'm used to the Nikon F100, and the 10D feels much more like that camera whereas the D100 feels cheap like the Nikon N80.

4. Less expensive: Even with the price reduction on the D100, the 10D is still $200 cheaper. That paid for the vertical grip which I use for 99% of my shooting.

I hated like hell to switch brands, but I'm not going to stay loyal to a brand that makes an inferior (and more expensive) product. Keeping my customers happy is the most important thing for me, and I'm going to use the best tool I can afford to do just that!

avovochka said:

I am thinking about buying a new D-SLR camera. And I have a hard
decision to make between those two cameras. Both of them looks
atractive and I dont have any equpment from any of these companies.

What sugestions can you give me about this decision? What to choose?

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I have been reading these kind of arguments/posts for while now as I had to make the same kind of descision - I made up my mind when I decided for a Canon D30 and I just bought a 10D.

I hardly ever see an argument for Canon E-TTL flash system - and most importantly the possibility for HIGH SYNC FLASH ... it's a great feature for outdoor fill-in flash up to 1/4000 & open aperture -- I wonder how you would get a nice background blurr using Nikon equipment in that case or am I missing something??

Agreed it is a special use (but I have used it quite a bit) - E-TTL has its drawbacks too - (that's why I have the Metz 54MZ-3) but for ME it was a very important factor in the decision Nikon vs Canon.

and then there are the lenses - just an example: is there a Nikon equivalent to the 24-70mm L lens? not that I could afford right now but it's nice to know that this lens is out there for a future purchase ;-) - it would be a perfect lens for the next DSLR upgrade to a full frame version

oh - the so often mentioned missing spot metering - well, it would be nice to have but the camera has a DISPLAY - if the metering is off just correct it and shot again if you can ...

PS> the solid magnesium alloy body is really sweet & the AF rocks (that really needed improvement to the D30) - just pick up a 10D and you will know! ;-)

• oLi

avovochka said:

I am thinking about buying a new D-SLR camera. And I have a hard
decision to make between those two cameras. Both of them looks
atractive and I dont have any equpment from any of these companies.

What sugestions can you give me about this decision? What to choose?

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bill jones said:

Go with the Canon just buy it from somewhere that has a return
policy in case your not happy or end up with a camera that doesn't
work. I made the mistake of buying mine mail order and although
canon covers all the repairs it would have been much easier to
exchange it.

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by just exchanging it, you'll get another camera who's autofocus is setup on the manufacturing line. If you send it for service, a tech will take the time to get your AF calibration "spot on"..it doesn't get better.

Yep, they "ought" to come from the factory like that - nope, they don't. Fact of life, but that doesn't make it any less of an impressive piece of hardware - it just may need calibration.

The faster you send it in - the faster it will come back.

--
Gary

All of this is excellent information. Thanks for reporting on issues that I'm also very interested in.

Jay Adeff said:

I have been a Nikon user for 15 years, so I went into my local
Wolf's camera with the intention of shooting some pictures with the
Nikon D100 in the store, taking the CF card home and looking at the
images on my computer, and then buying it. But they also had one
10D in stock, so I took pictures with both cameras under the same
conditions and looked at them on my computer at home. I was really
bowled over by how much better the Canon was over the Nikon,
especially at the higher iso's (800 and 1600) which is where I do
most of my shooting (indoor sports).

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if you haven't done so already, D100 is compared to D60 and 10D is compared to D60. You'll probably get more unbiased info there than here. After all, this is a Canon forum. The 10D is clearly the better camera IMBO provided you get a good sample. Also thought the D60 was a better camera than the D100. Think Phil did too.

avovochka said:

I am thinking about buying a new D-SLR camera. And I have a hard
decision to make between those two cameras. Both of them looks
atractive and I dont have any equpment from any of these companies.

What sugestions can you give me about this decision? What to choose?

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