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I've had the Super DigiBin for about 6 months now, through two major trips, and I've been completely happy. What I like about it is the fact that the transfers to the PHD are very fast (6 min per gig) and that there's an optional auxilliary power pack (two models, in fact) available to extend life in the field. I used to carry the laptop too, but on my coming trip I'm not taking it.

Tom
James Noble said:
Ive been looking and cant see buying more and more cf cards

What is the best "digital wallet"
x-drive
nexveau
efilm delkin
superdigibin

please let me know you feelings
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James,

Sorry to say none of them. I would suggest putting your money into additional CF cards. If space is still an issue, use a laptop computer to offload the images from your cards. With a laptop you can truly verify that your images are in fact there.

rob
James Noble said:
Ive been looking and cant see buying more and more cf cards

What is the best "digital wallet"
x-drive
nexveau
efilm delkin
superdigibin

please let me know you feelings
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The Delkin system does verify that the images are there, it has a digital LCd panel to review them. It's expensive, tho, at 529 for a 20GB drive.

I plan on getting a digital wallet soon. Probably the image tank. If you can keep microdrives alive, as fragile as they are, the wallet shouldn't be a problem.

Russ
 
After looking at the Delkin Becasue you can look to see that the files are there and the pictures come up. and looking thru more info I have decided to get .....

http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=67&osCsid=a013f03e38d078e6b75d1f6703060f4e

I lets me do more things then just save files ( which I may not use but has larger screen and 20ghd (like delkin efilm) and is only $299

I have 4 512mb cf 2 256mb and 1 128 md

Im not looking to use this every day out but when I know I will be filling the cards like this past saturday when I shot over 1800 pictures I think this tool will be very handy.

I do have a laptop that I take out on the road but would rather leave it locked up then drag it around everywhere. Have enough to carry with just the picture stuff.

Thanks for everyones input I will let you know how I like it once I get it and have tried it out.

Thanks Again
Russ Jennings said:
The Delkin system does verify that the images are there, it has a
digital LCd panel to review them. It's expensive, tho, at 529 for
a 20GB drive.

I plan on getting a digital wallet soon. Probably the image tank.
If you can keep microdrives alive, as fragile as they are, the
wallet shouldn't be a problem.

Russ
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Russ Jennings said:
The Delkin system does verify that the images are there, it has a
digital LCd panel to review them. It's expensive, tho, at 529 for
a 20GB drive.

I plan on getting a digital wallet soon. Probably the image tank.
If you can keep microdrives alive, as fragile as they are, the
wallet shouldn't be a problem.

Russ
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I do not use microdrives. I use flash cards exclusively. 1G cards are only $200 or so, there is no excuse to lose clients' images. I would rather shoot less raw images and use fine JPEG instead of keeping all my eggs from one shooting in one basket. Unless it's a reshootable situation, your professional reputation is done for if the single drive crashes on you.
 
Unless I have the time to proof ALL the images that I download from my CF or Microdrives to my laptop, burn them to CD and spot check the majority of images on CD, I keep the filled CD/Microdrive in the alumnium version of the Media cases (either hakuba or microtek), and these cases in a sealed anti-static bag. Call it overly cautious or downright crazy. Most of the images that I have been paid to create are of live events, weddings, etc. and cannot easily be re-created.

Once I am back in the studio with another verified copy on my production server, which has mirrored drives, and a backup has been made to DVD+RW, I won't let the master images from CF or Microdrive out of my sight, or at least control. Even after all this I leave the images on the CF or Microdrives until I format the cards, in camera, as I am ready to use them for the next job.

"Knock On Wood" I have never had to tell a bride that her wedding memories were lost, damaged or destroyed. And I don't plan on starting now.

Some may say that there was never that much security with film, but my peace of mind is much better now than in my film days.

The days of being nervous while the film was being processed and printed at the lab is now long gone, what a relief. After I received negs back from the lab they went straight to enviromentally controlled, fireproof storage. Believe me when I tell you that it has been a real pain caring for some 25 years of negs.

With digital I keep one permenant DVD backup at the studio and one in storage for each job. I use Pictage for online ordering and order fulfillment and they keep a complete backup of all the images as well.

Now, as I climb off my soap box, use the level of security that you feel is necessary and that you trust.

Dan.
 
James,

I only briefly looked at the unit your planning on purchasing, but it appears to not support RAW. Does it support firewire or at least USB 2.0. The lack of RAW support or high speed transfer would keep me from buying it.

The Vista/PicturePad does both, but viewing CRWs from your 10D will be tedious as they take a long time to generate the thimbnails, while eating your battery the whole time. I've only used the Vista, so maybe the PicturePad is quicker. The Vista reliably copies the CFs & I've never had a loss or corruption due to it. I would be happy with no color LCD, since the color screen eats batteries quicker than a monochrome one would.

Regards,
Bern Caughey
 
Precisely! Any image tank device should be used for on-site back purpose only, not a way to save on CF card purchases. I have a policy of not formatting any CF cards on site; all formatting has to be done the night before. There are just way too many things to keep track of for any act that is intended to destroy whosale images created that day.

BTW, I use a thick metal case too for carrying CF cards with clients' images. Sometimes I wonder if that's the last thing that would be destroyed even in case of a serious car accident on the way home ;-)

Jim
Dan Christenson said:
Unless I have the time to proof ALL the images that I download from
my CF or Microdrives to my laptop, burn them to CD and spot check
the majority of images on CD, I keep the filled CD/Microdrive in
the alumnium version of the Media cases (either hakuba or
microtek), and these cases in a sealed anti-static bag. Call it
overly cautious or downright crazy. Most of the images that I
have been paid to create are of live events, weddings, etc. and
cannot easily be re-created.

Once I am back in the studio with another verified copy on my
production server, which has mirrored drives, and a backup has been
made to DVD+RW, I won't let the master images from CF or Microdrive
out of my sight, or at least control. Even after all this I leave
the images on the CF or Microdrives until I format the cards, in
camera, as I am ready to use them for the next job.

"Knock On Wood" I have never had to tell a bride that her wedding
memories were lost, damaged or destroyed. And I don't plan on
starting now.

Some may say that there was never that much security with film, but
my peace of mind is much better now than in my film days.

The days of being nervous while the film was being processed and
printed at the lab is now long gone, what a relief. After I
received negs back from the lab they went straight to
enviromentally controlled, fireproof storage. Believe me when I
tell you that it has been a real pain caring for some 25 years of
negs.

With digital I keep one permenant DVD backup at the studio and one
in storage for each job. I use Pictage for online ordering and
order fulfillment and they keep a complete backup of all the images
as well.

Now, as I climb off my soap box, use the level of security that you
feel is necessary and that you trust.

Dan.
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WOW WHAT KILLER ITEM... how big is 15 centimeters?
James Noble said:
http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=67&osCsid=a013f03e38d078e6b75d1f6703060f4e

I lets me do more things then just save files ( which I may not use
but has larger screen and 20ghd (like delkin efilm) and is only $299

I have 4 512mb cf 2 256mb and 1 128 md
Im not looking to use this every day out but when I know I will be
filling the cards like this past saturday when I shot over 1800
pictures I think this tool will be very handy.

I do have a laptop that I take out on the road but would rather
leave it locked up then drag it around everywhere. Have enough to
carry with just the picture stuff.

Thanks for everyones input I will let you know how I like it once
I get it and have tried it out.

Thanks Again
Russ Jennings said:
The Delkin system does verify that the images are there, it has a
digital LCd panel to review them. It's expensive, tho, at 529 for
a 20GB drive.

I plan on getting a digital wallet soon. Probably the image tank.
If you can keep microdrives alive, as fragile as they are, the
wallet shouldn't be a problem.

Russ
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Pete Biro
 
What is the fault tolerance of a notebook? What is the fault tolerance of a PCMCIA HD? A drop of your bag could well kill both, while a CF card would do just fine. Now I'm not arguing against on-site backing up using hard drive or CD-ROM. However, I personally would not attempt recycling the CF cards on-site during one shooting because (1) solid state storage represent the most shock-, maganetic-, and adverse temperature/pressure-resistent storage medium there is; (2) formatting CF cards on site dramaticly magnifies the propability of a distinct form of catastrophic user error: accidentally formatting a card before it's backed up. BTW, I use multiple CF cards for any shooting session, so there are more baskets to spread around on one hand, and higher probability of accidentally erasing one of them if I did on-site recycling.
Jeffrey Behr said:
...keeping all your image eggs in one CFcard basket.

I download to the notebook and then copy to a Toshiba PCCard-slot
HD. That makes 2 copies and I then erase the card and return it to
the rotation.

--
http://community.webshots.com/user/jeffreybehr
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Whlie of course it's not a good idea to drop them, dropping a hard drive when it is powered off will not often damage it, as the heads are parked.

Though of course I'm just talking about dropping it whilst handheld, not if you drop it over a balcony 20 floors up :)
Philip Hutson said:
James Noble said:
Reno said:
This "pro" uses a laptop with CD burner. It offers plenty of
storage plus holds other paper work needed when working in the
field.
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James

i dont think they are worth the money

I have enough cards to shoot for quite a while and then i rather have a laptop that allows me to really check out my pictures with full photoshop on it and also allows me to write CD's and do email and stuff also.

Only neg is that a laptop is bigger but i dont need it during the day anyway only at the end of the day to offload.

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Michael Salzlechner
StarZen Digital Imaging
http://www.starzen.com/imaging

photos at http://www.salzlechner.com/photo
 
I happen to like my MindStor and have not any issues with it in the 15 months I've owned it.

What are your specific issues with the MindStor?

Thanks,
Kev King said:
...
Btw... stay away from the MindStor - what a piece of junk.
Borrowed one once before getting my laptop and I'll never use one
again. Yuck.

Hope that helps. :-)
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TonyK
 
I have to agree. Downloading 10GB, let alone 20GB, over USB 1.1 will take forever.

If seeing the images is important then I would suggest a nice laptop and then a PCCARD adapter to transfer the images with. Unfortunately I would not take a laptop with me to the field. That is why I have a 10GB MindStor.

Viewing images, while nice, is not something I would do in the field. I would rather wait and make decisions when I have a larger screen and the toolset I use to process them.

Take care,
Bern Caughey said:
James,

I only briefly looked at the unit your planning on purchasing, but
it appears to not support RAW. Does it support firewire or at least
USB 2.0. The lack of RAW support or high speed transfer would keep
me from buying it.

The Vista/PicturePad does both, but viewing CRWs from your 10D will
be tedious as they take a long time to generate the thimbnails,
while eating your battery the whole time. I've only used the Vista,
so maybe the PicturePad is quicker. The Vista reliably copies the
CFs & I've never had a loss or corruption due to it. I would be
happy with no color LCD, since the color screen eats batteries
quicker than a monochrome one would.

Regards,
Bern Caughey
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TonyK
 
Dave said:
Dave
candyflip69 said:
jon.s.
James Noble said:
Ive been looking and cant see buying more and more cf cards

What is the best "digital wallet"
x-drive
nexveau
efilm delkin
superdigibin

please let me know you feelings
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I was looking at the nixvue myself but decided against it because of the price factor as well. I went with an Image Tank and have had no problems at all and have used it a lot. The only advantage to the nixvue was the on board screen to confirm that files were in place but it was so painfully slow to use that it wasn't a real advantage. As far as download speed I'm sure the firewire would be nice but I usually set my Image tank to download at night before I go to bed... so speed isn't really an issue.
I'm sure you wouldn't be sorry with an Image tank or xDrive.

--
Steve Hiebert
http://www.personalexpressions.ca
 
Never said I didn't. I carry 3 1G and 1 512M cards which hold about 350 raws from my 1Ds. I've never filled them in one day. And I NEVER format a card. Back in the motel room, after I download all cards' contents onto the notebook's HD, I cull the duds from the HD and then copy the remainder to the Toshiba PCCard HD. When I'm satisfied with my copy testing, I erase all images from each card and put it in the card case, leaving the last in the camera.

--
http://community.webshots.com/user/jeffreybehr
 
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