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S2 Pro focus problem: Do you think this picture is out of focus?

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You're shooting at the worst part of the lens. You're at full wide angle and all the way open at 24mm and f/2.8. Part of your out-of-focus is the lack of depth of field.

Try stopping the lens down to f/8 and see what you get.

Teski
WangYang said:
Do you think this picture is out of focus?

Focal Length (fixed, not zoom) 24 mm
Exposure Time 1/4000 sec
Aperture f/2.8
ISO Equivalent 400

http://www.pbase.com/image/15326108/original
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Yep, I'd say thats why its a bit soft. More depth of feild and make sure you sharpen it in Photoshop.
There are no cameras out there that give you optomized sharpening.

Grant
Teski said:
Try stopping the lens down to f/8 and see what you get.

Teski
WangYang said:
Do you think this picture is out of focus?

Focal Length (fixed, not zoom) 24 mm
Exposure Time 1/4000 sec
Aperture f/2.8
ISO Equivalent 400

http://www.pbase.com/image/15326108/original
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I'm fine, except for that Suran Rap incident, but I'm feeling much better now
 
Grant A said:
There are no cameras out there that give you optomized sharpening.
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You haven't seen the S2 with a Sigma 180mm Macro. Tack sharp at full resolution with no in camera, or post sharpening. I'll do my best to get some samples up.
 
Teski,

I mentioned I was using a fixed focus lens, not a zoom lens. Look at this picture with the aperture of 8, the same, out of focus.
http://www.pbase.com/image/15335712/original

Even when I use aperture 11 with flash, the picture is not sharp either.
http://www.pbase.com/image/15335718/original

I try different lens, the result is always the same. No of my flash pictures is sharp. I think my S2 pro got a serious focus problem. I need to send it back to Fuji for repair.
Teski said:
Try stopping the lens down to f/8 and see what you get.

Teski
WangYang said:
Do you think this picture is out of focus?

Focal Length (fixed, not zoom) 24 mm
Exposure Time 1/4000 sec
Aperture f/2.8
ISO Equivalent 400

http://www.pbase.com/image/15326108/original
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By the way, next week, I will borrow my friend's Olympus 4040 Zoom and take the picture at the same place, I am sure it will be sharper my S2 pro.

I will post the picture so that you can compare.

WangYang
WangYang said:
I mentioned I was using a fixed focus lens, not a zoom lens. Look
at this picture with the aperture of 8, the same, out of focus.
http://www.pbase.com/image/15335712/original

Even when I use aperture 11 with flash, the picture is not sharp
either.
http://www.pbase.com/image/15335718/original

I try different lens, the result is always the same. No of my flash
pictures is sharp. I think my S2 pro got a serious focus problem. I
need to send it back to Fuji for repair.
Teski said:
Try stopping the lens down to f/8 and see what you get.

Teski
WangYang said:
Do you think this picture is out of focus?

Focal Length (fixed, not zoom) 24 mm
Exposure Time 1/4000 sec
Aperture f/2.8
ISO Equivalent 400

http://www.pbase.com/image/15326108/original
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I remember you having this problem and posting about it here months ago. I just looked at your profile and you started complaining about this 7 months ago. Why didn't you just return your camera for a new one, or send it to Fuji in the last 7 months?

Sorry about not noticing you said fixed lens. I knew you had the 24-85 AFS so I assumed you were using that. :-)

I'd contact Fuji support if you aren't happy.

Have you tried shooting on a tripod, indoors, on a hard surface, using the self-timer to avoid all possible camera shake?

Good luck,

Teski
WangYang said:
I mentioned I was using a fixed focus lens, not a zoom lens. Look
at this picture with the aperture of 8, the same, out of focus.
http://www.pbase.com/image/15335712/original

Even when I use aperture 11 with flash, the picture is not sharp
either.
http://www.pbase.com/image/15335718/original

I try different lens, the result is always the same. No of my flash
pictures is sharp. I think my S2 pro got a serious focus problem. I
need to send it back to Fuji for repair.
Teski said:
Try stopping the lens down to f/8 and see what you get.

Teski
WangYang said:
Do you think this picture is out of focus?

Focal Length (fixed, not zoom) 24 mm
Exposure Time 1/4000 sec
Aperture f/2.8
ISO Equivalent 400

http://www.pbase.com/image/15326108/original
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WangYang said:
Do you think this picture is out of focus?

Focal Length (fixed, not zoom) 24 mm
Exposure Time 1/4000 sec
Aperture f/2.8
ISO Equivalent 400

http://www.pbase.com/image/15326108/original
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I am looking at the picture and see a brick wall with everything else out of focus? The brick wall is tack sharp on my screen, maybe I should readjust my monitor but it is tack sharp. On my monitor that is what the camera focused on and not the background. The background is x feet behind the brick wall further than the depth of field for this lense at f/2.8. If I am way off please help me so I understand what is happening, I sometimes do not see what others see on my monitor. f2.8 on this lens has a DOF of about 10" does it not or am I confused with another lens or it works backwards from what I am use to.
Let the light in! Walt
[email protected]
 
The bricks are not sharp. Slight blurred. I will post a sharp picture with Olympus 4040 Zoom next week. You can compare then.
wgc said:
WangYang said:
Do you think this picture is out of focus?

Focal Length (fixed, not zoom) 24 mm
Exposure Time 1/4000 sec
Aperture f/2.8
ISO Equivalent 400

http://www.pbase.com/image/15326108/original
Click to expand...
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I am looking at the picture and see a brick wall with everything
else out of focus? The brick wall is tack sharp on my screen,
maybe I should readjust my monitor but it is tack sharp. On my
monitor that is what the camera focused on and not the background.
The background is x feet behind the brick wall further than the
depth of field for this lense at f/2.8. If I am way off please
help me so I understand what is happening, I sometimes do not see
what others see on my monitor. f2.8 on this lens has a DOF of
about 10" does it not or am I confused with another lens or it
works backwards from what I am use to.
Let the light in! Walt
[email protected]
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The fact is that you've been complaining about this since you got the camera. Why compare? Why not call Fuji and send it in? If it's truely a focus problem, it should be fixed under warranty.

I'm confused as to why you want to keep testing and playing. You're wasting precious shooting time.

Teski
WangYang said:
wgc said:
WangYang said:
Do you think this picture is out of focus?

Focal Length (fixed, not zoom) 24 mm
Exposure Time 1/4000 sec
Aperture f/2.8
ISO Equivalent 400

http://www.pbase.com/image/15326108/original
Click to expand...
--

I am looking at the picture and see a brick wall with everything
else out of focus? The brick wall is tack sharp on my screen,
maybe I should readjust my monitor but it is tack sharp. On my
monitor that is what the camera focused on and not the background.
The background is x feet behind the brick wall further than the
depth of field for this lense at f/2.8. If I am way off please
help me so I understand what is happening, I sometimes do not see
what others see on my monitor. f2.8 on this lens has a DOF of
about 10" does it not or am I confused with another lens or it
works backwards from what I am use to.
Let the light in! Walt
[email protected]
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teski,

I have to say, you really have very good memory.

The reason why I waited for such a long time to send the camera back to Fuji for repairing, is that in spite of the some (many) blurred pictures, I did get some sharp pictures. Such as:
http://www.pbase.com/image/15355239/original
and
http://www.pbase.com/image/15355243

I thought that it was because of my Nikon 28-70 3.5D lens did not work well with the new Nikon focus system. Then I bought one 24-85 EDAF-S 3.5-4.5G lens. At beginning, things seemed to be ok, less out-of-fucus pictures. But the blurred pictures become more and more. Now it has so series that on Thursday evening, I shot for the whole evening 125 pictures, and got only one sharp picture http://www.pbase.com/image/15355525 . All the other pictures (both with 24-85mm and 24mm lens) are like this:
http://www.pbase.com/image/15355323/original
Some are even much worse, unacceptably blurred.

I got really frustrated and need to send the camera to Fuji for repairing next week.

Wang Yang
Teski said:
Sorry about not noticing you said fixed lens. I knew you had the
24-85 AFS so I assumed you were using that. :-)

I'd contact Fuji support if you aren't happy.

Have you tried shooting on a tripod, indoors, on a hard surface,
using the self-timer to avoid all possible camera shake?

Good luck,

Teski
WangYang said:
I mentioned I was using a fixed focus lens, not a zoom lens. Look
at this picture with the aperture of 8, the same, out of focus.
http://www.pbase.com/image/15335712/original

Even when I use aperture 11 with flash, the picture is not sharp
either.
http://www.pbase.com/image/15335718/original

I try different lens, the result is always the same. No of my flash
pictures is sharp. I think my S2 pro got a serious focus problem. I
need to send it back to Fuji for repair.
Teski said:
Try stopping the lens down to f/8 and see what you get.

Teski
WangYang said:
Do you think this picture is out of focus?

Focal Length (fixed, not zoom) 24 mm
Exposure Time 1/4000 sec
Aperture f/2.8
ISO Equivalent 400

http://www.pbase.com/image/15326108/original
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You do have some sharp pics there. Not sure why you are having such inconsistency. Again, I would try some shots on a tripod with and without flash and see what you get. Shoot things with text like books. Print a few out, and see what you get. If things are still soft after all that, the camera definitely needs to go to Fuji.

Remember to stop the lens down to around f/8 or f/9.5

Teski
WangYang said:
I have to say, you really have very good memory.

The reason why I waited for such a long time to send the camera
back to Fuji for repairing, is that in spite of the some (many)
blurred pictures, I did get some sharp pictures. Such as:
http://www.pbase.com/image/15355239/original
and
http://www.pbase.com/image/15355243
I thought that it was because of my Nikon 28-70 3.5D lens did not
work well with the new Nikon focus system. Then I bought one 24-85
EDAF-S 3.5-4.5G lens. At beginning, things seemed to be ok, less
out-of-fucus pictures. But the blurred pictures become more and
more. Now it has so series that on Thursday evening, I shot for the
whole evening 125 pictures, and got only one sharp picture
http://www.pbase.com/image/15355525 . All the other pictures (both
with 24-85mm and 24mm lens) are like this:
http://www.pbase.com/image/15355323/original
Some are even much worse, unacceptably blurred.

I got really frustrated and need to send the camera to Fuji for
repairing next week.

Wang Yang
Teski said:
Sorry about not noticing you said fixed lens. I knew you had the
24-85 AFS so I assumed you were using that. :-)

I'd contact Fuji support if you aren't happy.

Have you tried shooting on a tripod, indoors, on a hard surface,
using the self-timer to avoid all possible camera shake?

Good luck,

Teski
WangYang said:
I mentioned I was using a fixed focus lens, not a zoom lens. Look
at this picture with the aperture of 8, the same, out of focus.
http://www.pbase.com/image/15335712/original

Even when I use aperture 11 with flash, the picture is not sharp
either.
http://www.pbase.com/image/15335718/original

I try different lens, the result is always the same. No of my flash
pictures is sharp. I think my S2 pro got a serious focus problem. I
need to send it back to Fuji for repair.
Teski said:
Try stopping the lens down to f/8 and see what you get.

Teski
WangYang said:
Do you think this picture is out of focus?

Focal Length (fixed, not zoom) 24 mm
Exposure Time 1/4000 sec
Aperture f/2.8
ISO Equivalent 400

http://www.pbase.com/image/15326108/original
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Teski,

How much did your Nikon 28-70 f/2.8 AFS lens cost you? Is it the type with motor in the lens?

Wang Yang
Teski said:
I'm confused as to why you want to keep testing and playing.
You're wasting precious shooting time.

Teski
WangYang said:
wgc said:
WangYang said:
Do you think this picture is out of focus?

Focal Length (fixed, not zoom) 24 mm
Exposure Time 1/4000 sec
Aperture f/2.8
ISO Equivalent 400

http://www.pbase.com/image/15326108/original
Click to expand...
--

I am looking at the picture and see a brick wall with everything
else out of focus? The brick wall is tack sharp on my screen,
maybe I should readjust my monitor but it is tack sharp. On my
monitor that is what the camera focused on and not the background.
The background is x feet behind the brick wall further than the
depth of field for this lense at f/2.8. If I am way off please
help me so I understand what is happening, I sometimes do not see
what others see on my monitor. f2.8 on this lens has a DOF of
about 10" does it not or am I confused with another lens or it
works backwards from what I am use to.
Let the light in! Walt
[email protected]
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First I'm not sure why you are shooting at 2.8. There's not lens that I know of that is sharpest wide open. Have you tried f8?

Second, send it to Fuji and have it checked.

When you get it back start shooting something other than tests and enjoy your camera.

j
 
The CR123's control the autofocus. So try this...

Replace your Cr123's with brand new CR123's and then do some test shots with your problem lenses. If the photos look sharp, then the problem is your batteries. If still unsharp, then probably your body.

Declan
 
Declan,

My CR123 batteries are of no problem. Last night I followed Teski's advice to take several pictures of a book, at F8, with flash. It blurrs. I will send the body to Fuji next week. Thanks.

WangYang
Declan said:
The CR123's control the autofocus. So try this...

Replace your Cr123's with brand new CR123's and then do some test
shots with your problem lenses. If the photos look sharp, then the
problem is your batteries. If still unsharp, then probably your
body.

Declan
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I tried at F8 too. The result is the same. I will send it to Fuji next week.
Joe Lacy said:
First I'm not sure why you are shooting at 2.8. There's not lens
that I know of that is sharpest wide open. Have you tried f8?

Second, send it to Fuji and have it checked.

When you get it back start shooting something other than tests and
enjoy your camera.

j
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Hi WangYang,

About the bricks picture, I think the reason for not being so sharp could be that you're shooting f2.8. Not many lenses are sharp at f2.8. I think the pic is in focus, though.

About this picture



the people in the background are (I think), sharper than your main subjects. One possibility is that you had set your focus to one of the side focus points in the S2. That would explain some of the inconsistences you're having with your sharpness.

I cannot see the fist picture you posted in this second message.

Best,
Dioni
You don't take a photograph, you make it (Ansel Adams)
 
WangYang,

Try f8 with the bricks again, and from a tripod. You cannot compare apples with pears, and I think that's what you're doing comparing your indoor shooting in the restaurant at f11 with the brick at f2.8 (which IMHO is properly focused, but not tack sharp due to the f2.8).

Best,
Dioni
You don't take a photograph, you make it (Ansel Adams)
 
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