Graham Snook
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How did she take this picture?!?
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Scotty B
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I'm not doubting your opinion, and that could be....
but....
....if you've looked at her other work, you'll find she's that good all the time!
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but....
....if you've looked at her other work, you'll find she's that good all the time!
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scott b.
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Nill Toulme
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Tom Crowning
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When you look at the blur of the spray and the calm (sharp) water just above and below it you'll see that the spray part was added afterwards.
But, overall, a very interesting photo.
tc
Some digital cameras, some lenses, 2 eyes
http://www.tom-crowning.com
But, overall, a very interesting photo.
tc
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This looks like a hard picture to take! Everything is in focus,
with the exception of the spray. I would think that it would be
very hard to keep the camera steady enough to get such clarity. Any
idea what kind of shutter speed was being used? How about the DOF?
Just for personal interest, the photo was taken by a Canadian
photographer, Sharon Green – one of (if not the most) famous
sailing photographers in the world. As far as the photography
world is concerned, she is my idol.
Oh by the way, she was using a Canon EOS camera with L glass
Duncan
Some digital cameras, some lenses, 2 eyes
http://www.tom-crowning.com
Scotty B
Senior Member
Haven't done much sailing, have you?
I just don't buy that it was PS'd...her work is always that good IMO.
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scott b.
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I just don't buy that it was PS'd...her work is always that good IMO.
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scott b.
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Graham Snook
Senior Member
I worked for a photographer called Tim Page (Ex Vietnam War)...It was one of the many things I learnt from him....
Think about the format of written media, book covers, magazine covers newspaper covers all are vertical....if you want to get yer pix on a cover you have to shoot vertical.
He often had a lot of clients come back to him asking for a portrait shot "I really like this one, but we need it for a cover....you haven't got it upright have you?" sale made! :-D
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Think about the format of written media, book covers, magazine covers newspaper covers all are vertical....if you want to get yer pix on a cover you have to shoot vertical.
He often had a lot of clients come back to him asking for a portrait shot "I really like this one, but we need it for a cover....you haven't got it upright have you?" sale made! :-D
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Tom Crowning
Veteran Member
Not much sailing, that's true.
But I've taken a lot of photos from within trains and never got a picture were the central (in moving direction) is blured and above and below everything is NOT blured.
tc
Some digital cameras, some lenses, 2 eyes
http://www.tom-crowning.com
But I've taken a lot of photos from within trains and never got a picture were the central (in moving direction) is blured and above and below everything is NOT blured.
tc
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Paul Greenleaf
Senior Member
panned with wide angle lens. Frankly, not really very good shots for what she charges.
http://www.printroom.com/ViewGalleryPhoto.asp?userid=sailing&gallery_id=9243&image_id=3
This looks like a hard picture to take! Everything is in focus,
with the exception of the spray. I would think that it would be
very hard to keep the camera steady enough to get such clarity. Any
idea what kind of shutter speed was being used? How about the DOF?
Just for personal interest, the photo was taken by a Canadian
photographer, Sharon Green – one of (if not the most) famous
sailing photographers in the world. As far as the photography
world is concerned, she is my idol.
Oh by the way, she was using a Canon EOS camera with L glass
Duncan
Graham Snook
Senior Member
The contrast of the white water stands out more than the dark water...if you look carefully the dark water is moving, also the spray is traveling further (through the air) than the water under the boat.
It's slow shutter speed, I've done it myself many times
It's easy to say "photoshop" without giving the photographer credit for the skills they have, sure you can do a lot of things in photoshop, but lets not forget that photographers have been creating outstanding images without computers.
Do the best you can IN camera, then worry about post production
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m5laser
Leading Member
Graham,
First of all, let me bow down to any full time sailing photographers
Could you tell me a little about yourself? How did you start? Who do you usually work for, and what do you shoot? Do you absolutely love your job?
If I thought I could make a career out of it, that would certainly be my job of choice!
Duncan
First of all, let me bow down to any full time sailing photographers
Could you tell me a little about yourself? How did you start? Who do you usually work for, and what do you shoot? Do you absolutely love your job?
If I thought I could make a career out of it, that would certainly be my job of choice!
Duncan
http://www.printroom.com/ViewGalleryPhoto.asp?userid=sailing&gallery_id=9243&image_id=3
This looks like a hard picture to take! Everything is in focus,
with the exception of the spray. I would think that it would be
very hard to keep the camera steady enough to get such clarity. Any
idea what kind of shutter speed was being used? How about the DOF?
Just for personal interest, the photo was taken by a Canadian
photographer, Sharon Green – one of (if not the most) famous
sailing photographers in the world. As far as the photography
world is concerned, she is my idol.
Oh by the way, she was using a Canon EOS camera with L glass
Duncan
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Brian Kennedy
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--http://www.printroom.com/ViewGalleryPhoto.asp?userid=sailing&gallery_id=9243&image_id=3
This looks like a hard picture to take! Everything is in focus,
with the exception of the spray. I would think that it would be
very hard to keep the camera steady enough to get such clarity. Any
idea what kind of shutter speed was being used? How about the DOF?
Just for personal interest, the photo was taken by a Canadian
photographer, Sharon Green – one of (if not the most) famous
sailing photographers in the world. As far as the photography
world is concerned, she is my idol.
Oh by the way, she was using a Canon EOS camera with L glass
Duncan
Brian Kennedy
http://www.briankennedy.net/
Graham Snook
Senior Member
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1414342&size=lg
to see an example of slow slow shutter speed and moving objects
He was wrong, you might be too. Go for it
if you want to contact me go through the web address below
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I shoot on 35mm Canon and 6x7 Pentax
http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=280578
to see an example of slow slow shutter speed and moving objects
Many thanks, a soggy bow backFirst of all, let me bow down to any full time sailing
photographers
Short, fat and ugly! I work full time for two big marine publications over here in the UK, one motorboat orientated, one sailing. I'm one of just 2 staff photographers for the marine side of this company and one of 3 full time staff photographers for the sailing magazines in the UK...most mags have regular freelancers they use but we're the only ones with full time staff,
Always had a love of sailing and photography, thought it would be cool to make a living out of it. I studied photography in college for 4 year, gave me firm a technical grounding, got accepted to a picture library before I left college. Left there and worked for Allsport, the biggest sporting picture agency in the world which was snapped up by Getty images...I was a Darkroom Tech, Studio Tech, Wire Tech and also took a few pics, but most of my time was spent in the darkroom, two years down the line, I saw this job and went for it, got the job, here I am
Just the two magazines, although I do do a little freelance if the job interests me. I've photograph sailing boats from 10ft to 120 ft, motorboats that travel at 4 knots to class 1 powerboats travelling at over 150mph...the fastest I've been on the water is just over 90mph...the most expensive boat was over £10M. I do sailing and running shots, interiors, got out in a force 9 gale, hang out of helicopters, travel the world photographing boats
Do you have to ask?....Love it to pieces
My tutor at college told me "you'll never make a career out of being a yachting photographer, it's too specialised"
He was wrong, you might be too. Go for it
if you want to contact me go through the web address below
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Always give the client a vertical-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
I shoot on 35mm Canon and 6x7 Pentax
http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=280578
1, Please have a look between the bottom of the boat and the water.
2, Everything is sharp. To freeze the boat, shutter speed should be fast enough. While the fast shutter could produce this kind of silk-like spray.
2, Everything is sharp. To freeze the boat, shutter speed should be fast enough. While the fast shutter could produce this kind of silk-like spray.
http://www.printroom.com/ViewGalleryPhoto.asp?userid=sailing&gallery_id=9243&image_id=3
This looks like a hard picture to take! Everything is in focus,
with the exception of the spray. I would think that it would be
very hard to keep the camera steady enough to get such clarity. Any
idea what kind of shutter speed was being used? How about the DOF?
Just for personal interest, the photo was taken by a Canadian
photographer, Sharon Green – one of (if not the most) famous
sailing photographers in the world. As far as the photography
world is concerned, she is my idol.
Oh by the way, she was using a Canon EOS camera with L glass
Duncan
Graham Snook
Senior Member
Slight motion
WRONG and wrong again, you can shoot moving objects at slower speed as long as you are moving with them
A fast shutter speed freezes the water into droplets
Have a look at this, failing that try the link at the bottom and go to the last shot
1/30 at f22 at 120mph from a helicopter...I can down load examples from a helicopter shot at 1/8th of a second if you'd like
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1414342&size=lg
My shot, I took it, boat is sharp, spray is blured
Take it from someone who actually does it
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At this point, I agree. But why the mountain looks so good if the camera moved with the boat?
Ben Jacobsen
Well-known member
Sharon Green has the best sailing callendar every year. I get one every year from my Mother, and she gives one to my Father also. I have this shot in my Ultimate Sailing callendar and It's an awesome shot. She can charge whatever she wants because she is good enough that most of you can't figure it out. I have studied her work for the last 10 years and I doubt she has been using photoshop for that long. I am also a sailor and I sail skiffs a lot so i can vouch for the speeds of these boats.
The 49er is an amaizing boat and it's probably going 20 knots in this picture. Much like the iceboats mentioned above these boats generate their own wind. In 12~15 knots of wind it's not uncommon to go 20! And you apparent wind angle is a broad reach, but your true angle to the wind is almost dead downwind. As you go faster the wind goes forward and it's sort of a catch 22. The faster you go the faster the wind is and the more forward it goes so the more you can bear away. Very fun.
As for this shot it was taken from a power boat pacing the 49er with a slow shutter and WA lens. The 49er will not hold course though as you are ALWAYS adjusting you course and trim. These boats are grossly overpowered so they must do this to stay on their feet. If you can do it is is like no other experience. Iceboating is very similar as I used to have a doubleseater DN with my father and I have been in a sceeter.
For those that are interested Vanguard has made a new boat to bridge the gap between the 49er (expensive and fragile hotrod) and 29er (slow and built for 300lbs. total crew weight). It's called the vector and they are fast. I live in Newport RI and I own one. They are designed to be bullet proof and fast. I have gone 25~30 knots in mine on a day when it was blowing 22~25 and we were outrunning small powerboats because they couln't maintain that speed in the waves. I can sail it alone in up to 18 knots for a real challenge and they are a blast to sail with weights from 250~440! I sail with my Dad at 440 combined in 18+ and we have a blast and People race with a wide assortment of different weights. Check out http://www.vectorsailing.com or some pictures and videos on my site at http://www.cs.montana.edu/~jacobsen and then click on the vector link on the left.
enjoy!
Ben Jacobsen
The 49er is an amaizing boat and it's probably going 20 knots in this picture. Much like the iceboats mentioned above these boats generate their own wind. In 12~15 knots of wind it's not uncommon to go 20! And you apparent wind angle is a broad reach, but your true angle to the wind is almost dead downwind. As you go faster the wind goes forward and it's sort of a catch 22. The faster you go the faster the wind is and the more forward it goes so the more you can bear away. Very fun.
As for this shot it was taken from a power boat pacing the 49er with a slow shutter and WA lens. The 49er will not hold course though as you are ALWAYS adjusting you course and trim. These boats are grossly overpowered so they must do this to stay on their feet. If you can do it is is like no other experience. Iceboating is very similar as I used to have a doubleseater DN with my father and I have been in a sceeter.
For those that are interested Vanguard has made a new boat to bridge the gap between the 49er (expensive and fragile hotrod) and 29er (slow and built for 300lbs. total crew weight). It's called the vector and they are fast. I live in Newport RI and I own one. They are designed to be bullet proof and fast. I have gone 25~30 knots in mine on a day when it was blowing 22~25 and we were outrunning small powerboats because they couln't maintain that speed in the waves. I can sail it alone in up to 18 knots for a real challenge and they are a blast to sail with weights from 250~440! I sail with my Dad at 440 combined in 18+ and we have a blast and People race with a wide assortment of different weights. Check out http://www.vectorsailing.com or some pictures and videos on my site at http://www.cs.montana.edu/~jacobsen and then click on the vector link on the left.
enjoy!
Ben Jacobsen
Ben Jacobsen
Well-known member
because the mountain doesn't move much in the frame. At that distance it is practically stationary.
m5laser
Leading Member
I agree! She really has a way of capturing the moment. Have you bought her book? It is worth it! Some day I hope to be able to just shake her hand haha
Up until now, I had completely forgotten about the Vector. Ever since its release a few years ago, I really have not heard much of anything about it. Although it did win the Sailing World Boat of The Year award... I think.
How does it compare to the 29er? From the picture, it looks somewhat heavy.
Reminds me a lot of the old Australian Buzz... although that boat was only quick when running.
Nice to see some fellow sailors on the board
Duncan
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