what's wrong with my eyes?

I am 44 years old and never needed eyeglasses in my life.
During the last half year my vision has deteriorated so much that I
need eyeglasses to read anything printed. I never needed glasses
for anything in my entire life, but lately things are getting quite
blurry.
Andrzej .... celibrate the fact that you made it to 44. When I turned 40, my father called me up to wish me a happy birthday .. but also said, "I have good news and bad news". I replied "whats the bad news". He said, "when the men in our family hit 40, every bone in their body gets stiff except one .... the good news is ..... you forget what its for."

It the penalty for living past 21! At 55, I can share with you ... growing old is not for sissies!
Warm regards
karl
Karll H. Timmerman M.A.,J.D.
http://www.karltimmerman.com
 
I appreciate the report. Eye strain is a fairly vague and poorly defined concept, and I have no problem with the concept that your eyes (and probably those of many others) are more comfortable looking at LCD's vs CRT's. I would be interested if there were controlled studies examining issue, but it certainly seems plausible.

At least one of the original poster's questions is whether or not the prolonged viewing of computer monitors was the cause of his now needing reading glasses. My response was intended to address this issue, since current scientific thinking would say the answer is no. People typically end up needing reading glasses in their 40's and it has no connection with how they used their eyes in the previous years.

Thanks for the input.

--
Don
http://www.dlcphotography.net

P.S. And just for clarification, people who are near-sighted can quite often see their computer screens life-long, without needing reading glasses. That is because the "near-point" of their eyes is naturally up close, allowing them to read without any glasses. But in order to see far away, they will need glasses (or contacts).
 
! was I needed glasses
  1. 2 was I cannot remember=======
ernie
I am 44 years old and never needed eyeglasses in my life.
During the last half year my vision has deteriorated so much that I
need eyeglasses to read anything printed. I never needed glasses
for anything in my entire life, but lately things are getting quite
blurry.
Andrzej .... celibrate the fact that you made it to 44. When I
turned 40, my father called me up to wish me a happy birthday ..
but also said, "I have good news and bad news". I replied "whats
the bad news". He said, "when the men in our family hit 40, every
bone in their body gets stiff except one .... the good news is
..... you forget what its for."
It the penalty for living past 21! At 55, I can share with you ...
growing old is not for sissies!
Warm regards
karl
Karll H. Timmerman M.A.,J.D.
http://www.karltimmerman.com
--

D-30 CANON 7E SONY CD 1000 420 EX PENTAX ME SUPER VIVITAR 3900 FLASH SONY CAM.
 
i just recently started needing glasses. At the eye exam he told me that if i wasnt sitting in front of the computer all day i wouldnt even know yet but because i always need a lot of close focussing it shows up as a problem. (Actually he said if i would be a housewife i wouldnt even know ...)

Get those glasses and enjoy life for another 40

--
Michael Salzlechner
StarZen Digital Imaging
http://www.starzen.com/imaging

photos at http://www.salzlechner.com/photo
 
Just kidding... I really enjoyed your new gallery. You should post more of it to NPN.
Matthew
The bottom line here is one word: presbyopia.

As a person ages, they gradually lose the ability to "accommodate"
where the focus of the lens of the eye shifts from distance to
near. It is our current understanding that this is caused by a
decrease in the lens elasticity. Normally the ciliary muscle in
the eye contracts, the 'zonules' which hold the lens in place
relax, and the lens 'bulges' somewhat, increasing the power of its
focus. This shifts the focal point from far to near. As one ages,
the loss of lens elasticity results in less and less change in the
power of the lens when the ciliary muscle contracts. There are
some current challenges to this as the physiologic explanation, but
this is the currently accepted one.

A child can accommodate extremely well, and the 'near point' (the
closest point which can be focused) is quite near to the eye. As
you age, this near point gradually gets further and further out, as
accommodative ability is lost. It reaches a 'critical' point
generally in the 40's, as the near point pushes reading material
further and further out. The solution is reading glasses, which is
basically just a plus lens (typically starting about +1.25
diopters).

I am not aware of any studies that suggest computer use, or
prolonged reading or close work, have any effect on the rate of
loss of accommodation. In fact, it could be argued (or rather
hoped!) that prolonged use of the accommodative process might keep
it stronger for longer than it would otherwise, but this is just a
theoretical argument.

So to the best of my knowledge, there's no reason to blame your
computer (LCD, CRT or otherwise), or any other activity on your
part, for your need for reading glasses. It's just the passage of
time. I was determined that I would be the "exception that proved
the rule" and postponed getting reading glasses, hoping I would
never need them. I sit here with a pair of +1.25 reading glasses
perched on my nose as I type this. Sigh....

Hope this helps! As they say, getting older is bad news, but it's
better than the alternative.

--
Don
http://www.dlcphotography.net
--
------------------------------------------------
M.K. Whitley
http://www.mkwphotography.com

'I have never let my schooling interfere with my education.'
  • Mark Twain
 
Turning 46 this May and for about the last year I've been having problems focusing. Not reallyin front of the monitor 'cause I probably adjust and sit a bit futher back. But reading is noticeable - I'll need reading glasses soon. I helped my eyes a bit by bumping up the refresh rate from 60 to 85 - my eyes weren't so tired anymore. Davidk
Hello everyone.

This is a serious question to all heavy computer users.

I am 44 years old and never needed eyeglasses in my life. 2 years
ago I ventured fully into digital photography with my D30. These
days I spend hours daily in front of a computer looking at an
average 17 inch monitor.

During the last half year my vision has deteriorated so much that I
need eyeglasses to read anything printed. I never needed glasses
for anything in my entire life, but lately things are getting quite
blurry.

I do not know if it is because of age (some people say that after
40 your vision deteriorates), or if I have messed up my vision
through constant staring at the computer screen.

I wonder if any of you knows any facts about this subject and if it
is the fault of my computer work; what kind of screen should I use
to prevent
further deterioration of my eyes.

I am very concerned.

--
Andrzej
http://www.oysterstudio.com
 
I share your sensitivity to refresh rate on CRT monitors, although not to your degree of precision. I almost get physically sick looking at a monitor set to 60 hz -- I don't know how most people do it. The first thing I do when I sit down at someone else's screen that's set that way is surreptitiously set it to a higher refresh rate.

I have also had all the fluorescent lights removed from my office.

Nill
~~
http://www.toulme.net
But then again this is just me. I find my eyes be very sensitivy at
CRT monitor refreshings. I can actually tell monitor's refresh rate
is set to 60, or 75, or 85, or 100 quite acurately. So I guess the
down side to this is that my eyes gets tired of the scanning of the
CRT too. I've know people who works long hours in front of CRT and
they don't have any problem like mine. However, the same can be
said that they can hardly tell the refresh rate of the monitor is
low. They see a 60hz monitor the same as a 100hz. So it's really
different from person to person.
 
Like Don, I always took some pride in my excellent vision. Could read things on the end of my nose, and see a germ on the moon.(or something like that).

Had heard of presbyopia, ...watched smugly as my dad and uncles joked about 'needing longer arms', and always had a sort of "not ME" attitude.

Along came age 46.

Hmmm. seem to need to hold things a little "away", to see them clearly.

Oh well, no big deal, ...maybe it's that longer-arm presby-thing. I imagine that it will come on slowly over a number(high) of years.

WRONG!

Seemed to get worse WEEKLY, ...and within a relatively short time, I was at the "reading glasses" rack in the drugstore.

Not as long as i would have expected after-that, I was being examined/fitted for "my very own" glasses.

Which I ONLY used "for reading" don'tchaknow.

I still took pride in examining the moon-germs.

Well, today I'm 62, ...and I can't even see the MAN-in-the-moon clearly w/o my glasses.

But I've learned a trick for when (heaven forbid) I'm rounding-the-horn in a sailboat, and my last pair of glasses has fallen overboard.

Holy s* , Batman, ...how to read the charts?

Solution: Use "finger glasses"!

Make a circle with your thumb & forefinger, squeeze the circle (close the aperture) down until it is a tiny hole, and hold the reading-material close (preferably in GOOD light).

Voila!! Do-it-yourself miracle!! (SO much more dependable than the other kind ;-)

Make a metal or plastic dog-tag-on-a-lanyard, drill a .03 inch (or smaller) hole in it, and hang it around your neck ---Break-proof glasses for emergency use.

HTH,

Larry
The bottom line here is one word: presbyopia.
 
I wonder if I had stopped playing with myself at a younger age, I wonder, would it have saved my vision? hmmmm .... probably not. Just glad I didn't go blind at 15.
Karl
Karl H. Timmerman M.A.,J.D.
http://www.karltimmerman.com
 
I have also had all the fluorescent lights removed from my office.

Nill
~~
http://www.toulme.net
But then again this is just me. I find my eyes be very sensitivy at
CRT monitor refreshings. I can actually tell monitor's refresh rate
is set to 60, or 75, or 85, or 100 quite acurately. So I guess the
down side to this is that my eyes gets tired of the scanning of the
CRT too. I've know people who works long hours in front of CRT and
they don't have any problem like mine. However, the same can be
said that they can hardly tell the refresh rate of the monitor is
low. They see a 60hz monitor the same as a 100hz. So it's really
different from person to person.
--
----------------------------------------------------------------
Aaron Kennedy
http://students.ou.edu/K/Aaron.D.Kennedy-1/
 
Larry, thanks for the tip.

I know that will come in handy, my day job is AirConditioning contractor and today I crawled under a house and due to the position of the airhandler I found myself so close to the wiring diagram glued to the blower housing I couldn't read it...no room to pull my head back to get in focus.
I just tried the "trick" and I'm sure it would have worked!
Posting under this new title, to catch the attention of those the
trick may help ;-)
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=4759646
 
Hello everyone.

This is a serious question to all heavy computer users.

I am 44 years old and never needed eyeglasses in my life. 2 years
ago I ventured fully into digital photography with my D30. These
days I spend hours daily in front of a computer looking at an
average 17 inch monitor.

During the last half year my vision has deteriorated so much that I
need eyeglasses to read anything printed. I never needed glasses
for anything in my entire life, but lately things are getting quite
blurry.

I do not know if it is because of age (some people say that after
40 your vision deteriorates), or if I have messed up my vision
through constant staring at the computer screen.

I wonder if any of you knows any facts about this subject and if it
is the fault of my computer work; what kind of screen should I use
to prevent
further deterioration of my eyes.

I am very concerned.

--
Andrzej
http://www.oysterstudio.com
--

I know the feeling. I'm turning 41 in a couple weeks and I have been in denial about my vision for the last 3 years. I had my first eye exam 2 weeks ago and couldn't believe it-- 20/40 in one eye and 20/70 in the other and needed bifocals! My glasses will be here in another week and I can't wait. I have gone through several pair of reading glasses in the last 2-3 years with while slowly needing increased magnification. My advice, don't wait, go get an exam, get prescriptions, and start enjoying what you've been missing!!!

I work with graphics and I'm on computers all the time. I'm not convinced an LCD is any better than glass, at least not for my vision. Most of the day I use a laptop (with LCD screen). After getting home, I use a high quality 17" HP mx-75 (CRT). I have yet to see an LCD screen that beats glass for high-res!

BTW - I bought the little Canon eye-piece extender for my 10D and it seems to work great-- highly recommend it for anyone with vision problems!

With respect,

ReneM
 
During the last half year my vision has deteriorated so much that I
need eyeglasses to read anything printed. I never needed glasses
for anything in my entire life, but lately things are getting quite
blurry.
In my late 20s I was horrified to realise that I needed glasses to read. I had no eyesight problems up till then.

Over the years my uncorrected eyesight has got progressively worse and I get my eyes checked every few years.

I am now well into my 50s and I need bifocals. But with my glasses on I can still (just) read the smallest line in the opticians chart. And I have no trouble reading the tiny font in this forum on my 19 inch 1600x1200 screen.

If you are sitting a long time at the computer it is a good idea to let your eyes focus at infinity from time to time. I doubt if the changes in your eyesight are due to the computer screen but it is a good idea to discuss it with your optician.

--
Steve Horn
 

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