10D reset.....The fix all! Come on now!

Enough already.

With every new post, someone mentions how the 10D reset button gave them a new camera.

DID YOU EVER THINK THAT WHILE YOU WERE PLAYING AROUND WITH YOUR NEW TOY, YOU MESSED UP THE SETTINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

I'm reading about exposure corrections, focus improvements, less noise, etc....

Come on now.

Mind over matter my friends.

However, I do think it's rather clever of Canon.

I wonder how many people will avoid calling Canon service because of this neat little fix-all button?

BTW...If you hold the FEL button AND the focus assist button while blowing into the viewfinder, the camera will enlarge to a 1Ds.

And you thought you had to pay 7k..huh.

My problems with softness started before I ever changed a setting. Everything was on factory default. You migth not know as much as you think you do here...

Anthony said:

Enough already.

With every new post, someone mentions how the 10D reset button gave
them a new camera.

DID YOU EVER THINK THAT WHILE YOU WERE PLAYING AROUND WITH YOUR
NEW TOY, YOU MESSED UP THE SETTINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

I'm reading about exposure corrections, focus improvements, less
noise, etc....

Come on now.

Mind over matter my friends.

However, I do think it's rather clever of Canon.
I wonder how many people will avoid calling Canon service because
of this neat little fix-all button?

BTW...If you hold the FEL button AND the focus assist button while
blowing into the viewfinder, the camera will enlarge to a 1Ds.

And you thought you had to pay 7k..huh.

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Very powerful indeed. Just amazing.

Rich

Anthony said:

Enough already.

With every new post, someone mentions how the 10D reset button gave
them a new camera.

DID YOU EVER THINK THAT WHILE YOU WERE PLAYING AROUND WITH YOUR
NEW TOY, YOU MESSED UP THE SETTINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

I'm reading about exposure corrections, focus improvements, less
noise, etc....

Come on now.

Mind over matter my friends.

However, I do think it's rather clever of Canon.
I wonder how many people will avoid calling Canon service because
of this neat little fix-all button?

BTW...If you hold the FEL button AND the focus assist button while
blowing into the viewfinder, the camera will enlarge to a 1Ds.

And you thought you had to pay 7k..huh.

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the firmware upgrade a long time ago that fixed everyones low light AF ...

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Mine has been satisfactory, but I doubt everyone messed up a setting that would account for this. I just hope those who are unhappy will give it a try. I did just for good measure. I haven't shot enough to know yet if it makes a difference with mine.

There is some humor in my post....Maybe you're just feeling a little grumpy today.

If I knew everthing, I wouldn't have any questions to ask.

Oh BTW......Have you altered the settings to perhaps a higher level of sharpness?

Pixel Warp said:

Anthony said:

Enough already.

With every new post, someone mentions how the 10D reset button gave
them a new camera.

DID YOU EVER THINK THAT WHILE YOU WERE PLAYING AROUND WITH YOUR
NEW TOY, YOU MESSED UP THE SETTINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

I'm reading about exposure corrections, focus improvements, less
noise, etc....

Come on now.

Mind over matter my friends.

However, I do think it's rather clever of Canon.
I wonder how many people will avoid calling Canon service because
of this neat little fix-all button?

BTW...If you hold the FEL button AND the focus assist button while
blowing into the viewfinder, the camera will enlarge to a 1Ds.

And you thought you had to pay 7k..huh.

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http://www.pbase.com/chris_parrish

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RichW said:

Rich

Anthony said:

Enough already.

With every new post, someone mentions how the 10D reset button gave
them a new camera.

DID YOU EVER THINK THAT WHILE YOU WERE PLAYING AROUND WITH YOUR
NEW TOY, YOU MESSED UP THE SETTINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

I'm reading about exposure corrections, focus improvements, less
noise, etc....

Come on now.

Mind over matter my friends.

However, I do think it's rather clever of Canon.
I wonder how many people will avoid calling Canon service because
of this neat little fix-all button?

BTW...If you hold the FEL button AND the focus assist button while
blowing into the viewfinder, the camera will enlarge to a 1Ds.

And you thought you had to pay 7k..huh.

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I guess the "Simple message" post tuned me up a bit... Sorry if I seemed a little snappy.

As for my settings... Before the reset all my 10D pics were considerably softer than my D30 ever was and that's saying something because I shot with the D30 set at it's lowest setting and done my USM in PS. All of my initial 10D shots were made at the factory default settings to try and determine which way to go with the adjustments in the parameter settings.

The first pics almost made me vomit. Then they seemd a bit better from the next day on but were still below what I had expected in sharpness and detail. They required TONS of USM, again compared to D30 files, and some wouldn't sharpen to acceptable levels at all. Some of them could be attributed to my techniques as mentioned in another thread I started. Some I had no explaination for.

FWIW, changing the in camera settings appeared to have little or no effect at all on the sharpening of the images I was getting. It didn't appear to improve detail either.

After the reset I didn't make any changes so that I could compare to my intiial results at default settings. The difference was amazing. My exposure problem was gone and the sharpness/detail is now above and beyond anything I ever remember getting with the D30. I can also see a difference between the sharpness settings in parameters in my end results. It definitely made a difference in what I get from my 10D.

I just wonder if it doesn't have something to do with the DIGIC processor needing rebooted or something. It definitely seems like some sort of software glitch that gets uncorrupted during the reset. I can't explain it but I know that it gave me a new 10D...

Sorry again for the snap!

Anthony said:

There is some humor in my post....Maybe you're just feeling a
little grumpy today.

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I suspect we'll see a firmware upgrade for the 10D sooner rather than later... something obviously is going on

Cheers,

Tony Bonanno

Mike Salzlechner said:

the firmware upgrade a long time ago that fixed everyones low light
AF ...

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StarZen Digital Imaging
http://www.starzen.com/imaging

photos at http://www.salzlechner.com/photo

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10D (2), EOS 3, EOS 5, EF 50 1.8, 28-70L, 28-135IS, 70-200 f/4L, Sigma 15-30EX, 550EX (2), ST-E2, Sigma EF500-Super, Pentax 67 w/45/90/165/300 lenses, lots of flash gear and old FD gear. Pocket camera - Canon S40. Printer - Epson 2200.

Did you happen to notice what the "factory settings" were when you getting soft pics? Did you change them at all?
Maybe they were set all the way back.

Just a guess.

I remember the first firmware upgrade for the D30.
Absolutely everyone insisted that the AF improved.

Still smiling.

Good day.

Pixel Warp said:

As for my settings... Before the reset all my 10D pics were
considerably softer than my D30 ever was and that's saying
something because I shot with the D30 set at it's lowest setting
and done my USM in PS. All of my initial 10D shots were made at the
factory default settings to try and determine which way to go with
the adjustments in the parameter settings.

The first pics almost made me vomit. Then they seemd a bit better
from the next day on but were still below what I had expected in
sharpness and detail. They required TONS of USM, again compared to
D30 files, and some wouldn't sharpen to acceptable levels at all.
Some of them could be attributed to my techniques as mentioned in
another thread I started. Some I had no explaination for.

FWIW, changing the in camera settings appeared to have little or no
effect at all on the sharpening of the images I was getting. It
didn't appear to improve detail either.

After the reset I didn't make any changes so that I could compare
to my intiial results at default settings. The difference was
amazing. My exposure problem was gone and the sharpness/detail is
now above and beyond anything I ever remember getting with the D30.
I can also see a difference between the sharpness settings in
parameters in my end results. It definitely made a difference in
what I get from my 10D.

I just wonder if it doesn't have something to do with the DIGIC
processor needing rebooted or something. It definitely seems like
some sort of software glitch that gets uncorrupted during the
reset. I can't explain it but I know that it gave me a new 10D...


Sorry again for the snap!

Anthony said:

There is some humor in my post....Maybe you're just feeling a
little grumpy today.

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There were no custom functions set and the parameters were set to the middle. The only thing I changed was to lock the focus point in the middle. That's the only change I made and it was made after a few soft shots had already been made. I was eliminating error in focus point selection as the problem.

As crazy as this fix sounds, there are no settings in the camera that can duplicate what I was getting. Nowhere...

Anthony said:

Just a guess.

I remember the first firmware upgrade for the D30.
Absolutely everyone insisted that the AF improved.

Still smiling.

Good day.

Pixel Warp said:

As for my settings... Before the reset all my 10D pics were
considerably softer than my D30 ever was and that's saying
something because I shot with the D30 set at it's lowest setting
and done my USM in PS. All of my initial 10D shots were made at the
factory default settings to try and determine which way to go with
the adjustments in the parameter settings.

The first pics almost made me vomit. Then they seemd a bit better
from the next day on but were still below what I had expected in
sharpness and detail. They required TONS of USM, again compared to
D30 files, and some wouldn't sharpen to acceptable levels at all.
Some of them could be attributed to my techniques as mentioned in
another thread I started. Some I had no explaination for.

FWIW, changing the in camera settings appeared to have little or no
effect at all on the sharpening of the images I was getting. It
didn't appear to improve detail either.

After the reset I didn't make any changes so that I could compare
to my intiial results at default settings. The difference was
amazing. My exposure problem was gone and the sharpness/detail is
now above and beyond anything I ever remember getting with the D30.
I can also see a difference between the sharpness settings in
parameters in my end results. It definitely made a difference in
what I get from my 10D.

I just wonder if it doesn't have something to do with the DIGIC
processor needing rebooted or something. It definitely seems like
some sort of software glitch that gets uncorrupted during the
reset. I can't explain it but I know that it gave me a new 10D...


Sorry again for the snap!

Anthony said:

There is some humor in my post....Maybe you're just feeling a
little grumpy today.

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are the instructions on how to "reset" included in the 10D manual?

Mark

Juli Valley said:

Mine has been satisfactory, but I doubt everyone messed up a
setting that would account for this. I just hope those who are
unhappy will give it a try. I did just for good measure. I
haven't shot enough to know yet if it makes a difference with mine.

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I really want to see what it is that's happened ( before the fix of course)

Pixel Warp said:

As crazy as this fix sounds, there are no settings in the camera
that can duplicate what I was getting. Nowhere...

Anthony said:

Just a guess.

I remember the first firmware upgrade for the D30.
Absolutely everyone insisted that the AF improved.

Still smiling.

Good day.

Pixel Warp said:

As for my settings... Before the reset all my 10D pics were
considerably softer than my D30 ever was and that's saying
something because I shot with the D30 set at it's lowest setting
and done my USM in PS. All of my initial 10D shots were made at the
factory default settings to try and determine which way to go with
the adjustments in the parameter settings.

The first pics almost made me vomit. Then they seemd a bit better
from the next day on but were still below what I had expected in
sharpness and detail. They required TONS of USM, again compared to
D30 files, and some wouldn't sharpen to acceptable levels at all.
Some of them could be attributed to my techniques as mentioned in
another thread I started. Some I had no explaination for.

FWIW, changing the in camera settings appeared to have little or no
effect at all on the sharpening of the images I was getting. It
didn't appear to improve detail either.

After the reset I didn't make any changes so that I could compare
to my intiial results at default settings. The difference was
amazing. My exposure problem was gone and the sharpness/detail is
now above and beyond anything I ever remember getting with the D30.
I can also see a difference between the sharpness settings in
parameters in my end results. It definitely made a difference in
what I get from my 10D.

I just wonder if it doesn't have something to do with the DIGIC
processor needing rebooted or something. It definitely seems like
some sort of software glitch that gets uncorrupted during the
reset. I can't explain it but I know that it gave me a new 10D...


Sorry again for the snap!

Anthony said:

There is some humor in my post....Maybe you're just feeling a
little grumpy today.

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Hi Mark... Yes, page 35 (clear camera settings), page 44 (LCD menu info) and page 152 (clear custom functions). Not sure which does the trick, so I cleared (reset) both camera settings and custom functions...

The option is in the Menu on the rear LCD.

Hope this helps...

Tony Bonanno

mark douglas 3 said:

Mark

Juli Valley said:

Mine has been satisfactory, but I doubt everyone messed up a
setting that would account for this. I just hope those who are
unhappy will give it a try. I did just for good measure. I
haven't shot enough to know yet if it makes a difference with mine.

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10D (2), EOS 3, EOS 5, EF 50 1.8, 28-70L, 28-135IS, 70-200 f/4L, Sigma 15-30EX, 550EX (2), ST-E2, Sigma EF500-Super, Pentax 67 w/45/90/165/300 lenses, lots of flash gear and old FD gear. Pocket camera - Canon S40. Printer - Epson 2200.

I don't know of any way for the user to change the Focus setting. There are a NUMBER of people that had front/back focusing problem that have reported it Fixing their camera. I did not have the problem (I checked for it) but I think it is wonderful that there is a quick fix and it seems to be a common but potentially serious problem.

I will agree that there may be other "fixes" being attributed to the Reset that may fix other problems. It is also possible/likely that SOME of the problems are user error. But it is ALSO POSSIBLE that the some other parameters may have gotten messed up without user intervention. If it can happen, apparently verifiably, to the focus it MIGHT happen for other parameters.

Overall, I think you are more than a little early/rude to attribute this to user error. I would think it would be good for people to try the reset and see if it fixes ther problem. What is the harm. If people find/think it fixes other problems, let them report it. It might help somebody else.

Anthony said:

Enough already.

With every new post, someone mentions how the 10D reset button gave
them a new camera.

DID YOU EVER THINK THAT WHILE YOU WERE PLAYING AROUND WITH YOUR
NEW TOY, YOU MESSED UP THE SETTINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

I'm reading about exposure corrections, focus improvements, less
noise, etc....

Come on now.

Mind over matter my friends.

However, I do think it's rather clever of Canon.
I wonder how many people will avoid calling Canon service because
of this neat little fix-all button?

BTW...If you hold the FEL button AND the focus assist button while
blowing into the viewfinder, the camera will enlarge to a 1Ds.

And you thought you had to pay 7k..huh.

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here's a sample someone left in a different thread:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=4745115

Anthony said:

Pixel Warp said:

As crazy as this fix sounds, there are no settings in the camera
that can duplicate what I was getting. Nowhere...

Anthony said:

Just a guess.

I remember the first firmware upgrade for the D30.
Absolutely everyone insisted that the AF improved.

Still smiling.

Good day.

Pixel Warp said:

As for my settings... Before the reset all my 10D pics were
considerably softer than my D30 ever was and that's saying
something because I shot with the D30 set at it's lowest setting
and done my USM in PS. All of my initial 10D shots were made at the
factory default settings to try and determine which way to go with
the adjustments in the parameter settings.

The first pics almost made me vomit. Then they seemd a bit better
from the next day on but were still below what I had expected in
sharpness and detail. They required TONS of USM, again compared to
D30 files, and some wouldn't sharpen to acceptable levels at all.
Some of them could be attributed to my techniques as mentioned in
another thread I started. Some I had no explaination for.

FWIW, changing the in camera settings appeared to have little or no
effect at all on the sharpening of the images I was getting. It
didn't appear to improve detail either.

After the reset I didn't make any changes so that I could compare
to my intiial results at default settings. The difference was
amazing. My exposure problem was gone and the sharpness/detail is
now above and beyond anything I ever remember getting with the D30.
I can also see a difference between the sharpness settings in
parameters in my end results. It definitely made a difference in
what I get from my 10D.

I just wonder if it doesn't have something to do with the DIGIC
processor needing rebooted or something. It definitely seems like
some sort of software glitch that gets uncorrupted during the
reset. I can't explain it but I know that it gave me a new 10D...


Sorry again for the snap!

Anthony said:

There is some humor in my post....Maybe you're just feeling a
little grumpy today.

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Anthony14707 said:

With every new post, someone mentions how the 10D reset button gave
them a new camera.

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I hereby declare that I reset my camera as described and did not experience any difference at all.

Anthony14707 said:

I'm reading about exposure corrections, focus improvements, less
noise, etc....
Come on now.

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...I fully agree that these things sound unreal. But the fact is that a lot of people experience them as real, as real as firmware upgrades that fix AF problems of the D30/D60 cameras, underexposure issues with the 28-135 on D30/D60 cameras, properly exposed E-TTL metered flash pictures, moral warefare and and and...

Anthony14707 said:

However, I do think it's rather clever of Canon.
I wonder how many people will avoid calling Canon service because
of this neat little fix-all button?

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LOL!

Anthony14707 said:

BTW...If you hold the FEL button AND the focus assist button while
blowing into the viewfinder, the camera will enlarge to a 1Ds.
And you thought you had to pay 7k..huh.

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The relevant question is - will this affect the warranty???

Andi

I agree the post was somewhat rude but..........

You have to admit that:

Pixel Warp said:

Pixel Warp said:

BTW...If you hold the FEL button AND the focus assist button while
blowing into the viewfinder, the camera will enlarge to a 1Ds.

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That is pretty funny, I tried it but so far it has not worked, I am keeping a close eye on my 10d!

I for one can see that a reset COULD make a difference if it was like a re-boot on a computer, we have all had that issue! and it is only common sense that it COULD make a difference.

I left you a message on another thread about the re-boot issue, to clarify how to do it, hope you see it.

Rick

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dimage said:

There are a NUMBER of people that had front/back focusing problem
that have reported it Fixing their camera.

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The cases I have seen were the result of limitations of the person handling the camera, not the camera itself.

dimage said:

Overall, I think you are more than a little early/rude to attribute
this to user error.

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I know it sounds a bit harsh, buit this is just nonsense.

dimage said:

I would think it would be good for people to
try the reset and see if it fixes ther problem. What is the harm.
If people find/think it fixes other problems, let them report it.
It might help somebody else.

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It doesn't help and the reputational risks for this forum are simply too large.

Andi

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