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I want to do some work which will have me beyond reach of the shutter button but I'd really prefer NOT to utilize the time-delay feature since it only stays active for one shot at a time. I can't deal with jumping up to re-set for delay for every shot. Not to mention, I'm IN the shot and it's really tough to hit my MARK and be where I need to be in the frame.

I will try to connect the 602z to my TV via the video cable so that I can see what the shot looks like even though I'm not behind the camera. That could solve the positioning dilemna, but I'd like (somehow) to trigger the shot without moving from the set.

Appreciate any ideas you "scene-catchers" can come up with. ; )
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Rusty Halverson
Corona CA
 
Rusty Halverson said:
I want to do some work which will have me beyond reach of the
shutter button but I'd really prefer NOT to utilize the time-delay
feature since it only stays active for one shot at a time. I can't
deal with jumping up to re-set for delay for every shot. Not to
mention, I'm IN the shot and it's really tough to hit my MARK and
be where I need to be in the frame.

I will try to connect the 602z to my TV via the video cable so that
I can see what the shot looks like even though I'm not behind the
camera. That could solve the positioning dilemna, but I'd like
(somehow) to trigger the shot without moving from the set.

Appreciate any ideas you "scene-catchers" can come up with. ; )
--
Rusty Halverson
Corona CA
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Rusty,

Well, you only need to hold the outer cable firm to the camera and the inner cable over the shutter release....... standard release cable of your choice.

Making a bracket (sheet aluminum ?) that the outer cable screws into and then slips under a soft (velcro ?) wrap for the camera body would hold it in place for your remote use.

I just can't think that it would take anything elaborate to get the job done, just something that holds around the body and holds the trigger in position to push the shutter release. You no doubt will need a little rubber tip on the standard cable release so it does not slip on the smooth camera button.

Hmmmm, now I might just have to play around with this more :-)

Best,
 
You're idea solves my catch 22 logistics problem perfectly.

Being a ditzy creative type, I am saved, once again, by the engineer's succinct and accomodating imagination. And your description provides a visual prototype in my mind's eye to work from.

I'll send you a shot of what your design looks like once it's built & functioning.

Thank you very much.

Rusty
 
Rusty Halverson said:
You're idea solves my catch 22 logistics problem perfectly.

Being a ditzy creative type, I am saved, once again, by the
engineer's succinct and accomodating imagination. And your
description provides a visual prototype in my mind's eye to work
from.

I'll send you a shot of what your design looks like once it's built
& functioning.

Thank you very much.

Rusty
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Do a search on http://www.google.com for DIY shutter release bracket or cable release bracket and you should find a site showing how to make one for a nikon coolpix out of some aluminum shelf bracket. I made one and it is very easy, would work for the s602 as well, you'd just need a long enough cable release and one that can mount to the bracket. You can buy the shelf bracket at Ace hardware or and hardware store of $2 , just bend it around the camera and it can mount between the tripod and camera.
 
Yet another reason that I wish they would release the s602Z PRO version in the US as it's set up with a cable release hole on the shutter button.

Macster X
Rusty Halverson said:
I want to do some work which will have me beyond reach of the
shutter button but I'd really prefer NOT to utilize the time-delay
feature since it only stays active for one shot at a time. I can't
deal with jumping up to re-set for delay for every shot. Not to
mention, I'm IN the shot and it's really tough to hit my MARK and
be where I need to be in the frame.

I will try to connect the 602z to my TV via the video cable so that
I can see what the shot looks like even though I'm not behind the
camera. That could solve the positioning dilemna, but I'd like
(somehow) to trigger the shot without moving from the set.

Appreciate any ideas you "scene-catchers" can come up with. ; )
--
Rusty Halverson
Corona CA
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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/product/109447/KACRASO/REG/4948
Rusty Halverson said:
I want to do some work which will have me beyond reach of the
shutter button but I'd really prefer NOT to utilize the time-delay
feature since it only stays active for one shot at a time. I can't
deal with jumping up to re-set for delay for every shot. Not to
mention, I'm IN the shot and it's really tough to hit my MARK and
be where I need to be in the frame.

I will try to connect the 602z to my TV via the video cable so that
I can see what the shot looks like even though I'm not behind the
camera. That could solve the positioning dilemna, but I'd like
(somehow) to trigger the shot without moving from the set.

Appreciate any ideas you "scene-catchers" can come up with. ; )
--
Rusty Halverson
Corona CA
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BigWaveDave
 
I have seen pneumatic Bulb type shutter releases both on Ebay and on the net, just can't find the page right now it had a nice tiny piston and was threaded same as a cable release .

Since it is pretty hard for most people to find or built a small piston here is my Idea for totally LOWTECH Ludite version of a 'Bulb' type cable release to work with a homemade bracket.
Items required are :
1 tip of a soft rubber glove (source drugstore, dentist, doctor etc)
15 feet of small diameter clear aquarium tubing
1 3" soft rubber ball or the end of a turkey baster etc.
1 rubber glue (bicycle repair kit)

The idea is to form a small 1/2" balloon at the end of the tubing which is taped to the bracket, so when the rubber ball on the other end of the tubingis is pushed, the ballon expands and presses down the shutter release.

As I said totally low tech. Myself I would use a electric solenoid or a model airplane servo motor.
MrMagoo
MactsterX said:
Macster X
Rusty Halverson said:
I want to do some work which will have me beyond reach of the
shutter button but I'd really prefer NOT to utilize the time-delay
feature since it only stays active for one shot at a time. I can't
deal with jumping up to re-set for delay for every shot. Not to
mention, I'm IN the shot and it's really tough to hit my MARK and
be where I need to be in the frame.

I will try to connect the 602z to my TV via the video cable so that
I can see what the shot looks like even though I'm not behind the
camera. That could solve the positioning dilemna, but I'd like
(somehow) to trigger the shot without moving from the set.

Appreciate any ideas you "scene-catchers" can come up with. ; )
--
Rusty Halverson
Corona CA
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jredders said:
I've seen this on other sites and most clearly state that it does
not come with a cable. Now if only it were priced resonably... I
mean come on $30?
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It seems jolly pricey for what it is. But I'm sure you could adapt something yourself for next to nothing; a few inches of velcro, some elastic or webbing and something to position the cable release above the shutter. I liked the look of that idea initially compared to a bracket, but when you look at the 602, that positioning would cover a lot of controls. Unless you went through 90 degrees and fitted it over the protruding section at the front, but that might not fit well enough to stay in place. I have the stuff for this to hand and might have a fiddle if I can find a few minutes.

--
Fuji S602Z and 2800Z
http://www.peekaboo.me.uk
 
aperture said:
Well, you only need to hold the outer cable firm to the camera and
the inner cable over the shutter release....... standard release
cable of your choice.

Making a bracket (sheet aluminum ?) that the outer cable screws
into and then slips under a soft (velcro ?) wrap for the camera
body would hold it in place for your remote use.
Click to expand...
Excellent idea, just one minor additional point:

Fixing the other end of the cable release bracket between the tripod and camera (via the 1/4"-20 mounting bolt) would probably be firmer than a velcro strap.

Just drill a 1/4" clearence hole in the bracket and cussion (both sides of the bracket) with felt.

Slip the bracket over the camera and fix to tripod as usual. Presto!
 
Hello Boo,

I haven't tried to make one myself, but I'm sure you're right - it shouldn't be too much trouble. Here's a homemade one from a while ago:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=3152549
Boo said:
jredders said:
I've seen this on other sites and most clearly state that it does
not come with a cable. Now if only it were priced resonably... I
mean come on $30?
Click to expand...
It seems jolly pricey for what it is. But I'm sure you could adapt
something yourself for next to nothing; a few inches of velcro,
some elastic or webbing and something to position the cable release
above the shutter. I liked the look of that idea initially
compared to a bracket, but when you look at the 602, that
positioning would cover a lot of controls. Unless you went through
90 degrees and fitted it over the protruding section at the front,
but that might not fit well enough to stay in place. I have the
stuff for this to hand and might have a fiddle if I can find a few
minutes.

--
Fuji S602Z and 2800Z
http://www.peekaboo.me.uk
Click to expand...
--
BigWaveDave
 
Steve's Digicams has a whole page full of homemade cable releases for the Nikon 950. Shouldn't be too difficult to adapt one (or more) of the ideas to the 602:

http://www.steves-digicams.com/nikon_cable.html
Tom Luttrell said:
tomthumb said:
Well, you only need to hold the outer cable firm to the camera and
the inner cable over the shutter release....... standard release
cable of your choice.

Making a bracket (sheet aluminum ?) that the outer cable screws
into and then slips under a soft (velcro ?) wrap for the camera
body would hold it in place for your remote use.
Click to expand...
Excellent idea, just one minor additional point:

Fixing the other end of the cable release bracket between the
tripod and camera (via the 1/4"-20 mounting bolt) would probably be
firmer than a velcro strap.

Just drill a 1/4" clearence hole in the bracket and cussion (both
sides of the bracket) with felt.

Slip the bracket over the camera and fix to tripod as usual. Presto!
Click to expand...
--
BigWaveDave
 
MactsterX said:
Yet another reason that I wish they would release the s602Z PRO
version in the US as it's set up with a cable release hole on the
shutter button.
Click to expand...
That explains why I haven't been able to find it. I saw one on E-bay last week FS by some Canadian camera store that was called the s602 Special Edition and they shipped to the US, so I guess it wouldn't be like buying a grey market one as far as warranty. The "buy now"(which is also apparently the reserve) is $669 US.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3337&item=2917185187&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2919092822
 
Amazing - Is this the only product to be cheaper in the UK?

Kaiser adaptor is seven quid at speedgraphic or eight quid at jessops! Let's buy the lot and ship them to the states!

Rob
Boo said:
jredders said:
I've seen this on other sites and most clearly state that it does
not come with a cable. Now if only it were priced resonably... I
mean come on $30?
Click to expand...
It seems jolly pricey for what it is. But I'm sure you could adapt
something yourself for next to nothing; a few inches of velcro,
some elastic or webbing and something to position the cable release
above the shutter. I liked the look of that idea initially
compared to a bracket, but when you look at the 602, that
positioning would cover a lot of controls. Unless you went through
90 degrees and fitted it over the protruding section at the front,
but that might not fit well enough to stay in place. I have the
stuff for this to hand and might have a fiddle if I can find a few
minutes.

--
Fuji S602Z and 2800Z
http://www.peekaboo.me.uk
Click to expand...
 
The turkey baster and latex glove approach had me pining for a hit of whatever drug Mr. Magoo was under the influence of . But then he floored me with the brilliance of his electronic actuator comment: couldn't we rig it to trigger the shot with a remote/button? The cable ideas limit the distance one can be from the camera -- not to mention the fact that you'd have to be sure to conceal it in the shots. but with a remote, I could be at the opposite end of the studio, and no worries about concealment. Out-of-the-box thinking frequently yeilds suprising innovation. I am chagrined and humbled for thinking such a mind bent in any direction other than providing a dynamic solution. Although the construction will certainly be a complex challenge -- for my use it provides benefits important enough to merit the complexity.

So, how about it Mr. Magoo? Shall we turn our digital cameras into borgs?

We can always sell them to Terry Gillian when we upgrade, they'll fit right in if he ever makes a sequel to BRAZIL!

My previous digicam was an Oly 3000 which had a remote that was about half a credit card in size and worked fairly well although, I believe, it required line of sight with the front of the camera to work.

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MrMagoo said:
MactsterX said:
Macster X
Rusty Halverson said:
I want to do some work which will have me beyond reach of the
shutter button but I'd really prefer NOT to utilize the time-delay
feature since it only stays active for one shot at a time. I can't
deal with jumping up to re-set for delay for every shot. Not to
mention, I'm IN the shot and it's really tough to hit my MARK and
be where I need to be in the frame.

I will try to connect the 602z to my TV via the video cable so that
I can see what the shot looks like even though I'm not behind the
camera. That could solve the positioning dilemna, but I'd like
(somehow) to trigger the shot without moving from the set.

Appreciate any ideas you "scene-catchers" can come up with. ; )
--
Rusty Halverson
Corona CA
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Rusty Halverson
Corona CA
 
That's gonna have me laughing for a while!
Frog
Rusty Halverson said:
So, how about it Mr. Magoo? Shall we turn our digital cameras into
borgs?
We can always sell them to Terry Gillian when we upgrade, they'll
fit right in if he ever makes a sequel to BRAZIL!

My previous digicam was an Oly 3000 which had a remote that was
about half a credit card in size and worked fairly well although, I
believe, it required line of sight with the front of the camera to
work.

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MrMagoo said:
MactsterX said:
Macster X
Rusty Halverson said:
I want to do some work which will have me beyond reach of the
shutter button but I'd really prefer NOT to utilize the time-delay
feature since it only stays active for one shot at a time. I can't
deal with jumping up to re-set for delay for every shot. Not to
mention, I'm IN the shot and it's really tough to hit my MARK and
be where I need to be in the frame.

I will try to connect the 602z to my TV via the video cable so that
I can see what the shot looks like even though I'm not behind the
camera. That could solve the positioning dilemna, but I'd like
(somehow) to trigger the shot without moving from the set.

Appreciate any ideas you "scene-catchers" can come up with. ; )
--
Rusty Halverson
Corona CA
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Rusty Halverson
Corona CA
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S602Z, TL-FX9
 
Well about the turkey baster bulb, I could have sugested the bulb from a discarded blood pressure monitor.

But yes I am seriously thinking of hacking one of those $15 remote electronic doorbell receivers to operate a small solenoid via the remote RF bell button. I did this once five years ago as a emergency remote shutdown for a piece of machinery.

Here are some links for making cable release brakets and some comercial RF camera trigger systems
http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/photo/bracket.html
http://home.hiwaay.net/~drcannon/cp950/cablerelease.htm
http://www.steves-digicams.com/nikon_cable.html
http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/kap/equip/lowcost.html

Wireless Rf remote control (expensive)
http://www.pocketwizard.com
http://www.kapturegroup.com/kap_htmls/electronic_cable.html
MrMagoo
Frog said:
Rusty Halverson said:
So, how about it Mr. Magoo? Shall we turn our digital cameras into
borgs?
We can always sell them to Terry Gillian when we upgrade, they'll
fit right in if he ever makes a sequel to BRAZIL!

My previous digicam was an Oly 3000 which had a remote that was
about half a credit card in size and worked fairly well although, I
believe, it required line of sight with the front of the camera to
work.

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MrMagoo said:
MactsterX said:
Macster X
Rusty Halverson said:
I want to do some work which will have me beyond reach of the
shutter button but I'd really prefer NOT to utilize the time-delay
feature since it only stays active for one shot at a time. I can't
deal with jumping up to re-set for delay for every shot. Not to
mention, I'm IN the shot and it's really tough to hit my MARK and
be where I need to be in the frame.

I will try to connect the 602z to my TV via the video cable so that
I can see what the shot looks like even though I'm not behind the
camera. That could solve the positioning dilemna, but I'd like
(somehow) to trigger the shot without moving from the set.

Appreciate any ideas you "scene-catchers" can come up with. ; )
--
Rusty Halverson
Corona CA
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Rusty Halverson
Corona CA
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S602Z, TL-FX9
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