[Pic] Daffodils in Bloom

Nice shot, Bud. It looks like one of those b&w, color memory flashback thing. Cool. If the image is sharp, maybe you can try a different tighter crop; The crop isn't the main subject and your emphasize the flowers a lot more.

Nice going.
Nick.
Hello -

I took this shot in my backyard yesterday using the 70-200 AFS VR.
The shot looked okay in color, but I thought it might be
interesting in a B&W/Color combo, plus I wanted to practice some PS
processing. :-) I added a channel mixer layer, converted the layer
to B&W (adjusted the RGB to my liking) and then erased the areas
over the daffodils and stems.

By no means is it perfect. If you blow this one up, you'd see that
I erased outside the lines a couple of times. :-)

Overall though, let me know what you think.



Thanks,

Teski
 
Thanks man...Glad you like it. As for a crop, what do you think of this one? It's not a crop but another shot zoomed in on the flowers more.



Let me know if this is what you were thinking.

Take care,

Teski
Nice going.
Nick.
Hello -

I took this shot in my backyard yesterday using the 70-200 AFS VR.
The shot looked okay in color, but I thought it might be
interesting in a B&W/Color combo, plus I wanted to practice some PS
processing. :-) I added a channel mixer layer, converted the layer
to B&W (adjusted the RGB to my liking) and then erased the areas
over the daffodils and stems.

By no means is it perfect. If you blow this one up, you'd see that
I erased outside the lines a couple of times. :-)

Overall though, let me know what you think.



Thanks,

Teski
 
Wow, that's definately better. Try cropping half the rock out and put the focus more on flower putting it somewhere in the "third". Was this shot with the 70-200? Suprisingly sharp. I just got mine and haven't had a chance to play with it, yet.

Nick.


Let me know if this is what you were thinking.

Take care,

Teski
Nice going.
Nick.
Hello -

I took this shot in my backyard yesterday using the 70-200 AFS VR.
The shot looked okay in color, but I thought it might be
interesting in a B&W/Color combo, plus I wanted to practice some PS
processing. :-) I added a channel mixer layer, converted the layer
to B&W (adjusted the RGB to my liking) and then erased the areas
over the daffodils and stems.

By no means is it perfect. If you blow this one up, you'd see that
I erased outside the lines a couple of times. :-)

Overall though, let me know what you think.



Thanks,

Teski
 
Hey Teski,

so, your daffodils are catching up with ours in London eh? Welcome to Spring! (fun, ain't it?)

I like your idea (I really enjoy that B&W+colour effect). I agree with Alex though, perhaps dropping the saturation/tone down a bit on flowers will allow them to work better with the tonality of the B&W portion of the image.

I'm gonna get me one of those VR lenses, just you wait! (and then you guys are gonna be in trouble :-)

Cheers!

Chas
I like this shot. Composition is really nice and I like the effect
of color and B&W. Is the second shot a crop ? At first, it seemed
to me that the flowers were a little blown but looking at second
shot (I guess it´s a crop) it looks OK.
Regards,
Hello -

I took this shot in my backyard yesterday using the 70-200 AFS VR.
The shot looked okay in color, but I thought it might be
interesting in a B&W/Color combo, plus I wanted to practice some PS
processing. :-) I added a channel mixer layer, converted the layer
to B&W (adjusted the RGB to my liking) and then erased the areas
over the daffodils and stems.

By no means is it perfect. If you blow this one up, you'd see that
I erased outside the lines a couple of times. :-)

Overall though, let me know what you think.



Thanks,

Teski
--
Paulo Abreu
http://www.pbase.com/psergio

'Buy a FujiFilm S2 Pro TODAY because ONE DAY you will be dead !'
--Very nice teski,

I will try this myself.
maybe when you fade the colours a bit the flowers will look less
blown.
give it a try

It's great to go out in the garden again ans see some flowers after
winter.

thanks for sharing

alex from holland

Fuji s2 pro
nikon 28-105
Sigma 105 macro
Sigma 50-500
Nikon sb24

'You don't take a picture, it's given to you'
 
Hey Teski,

May I offer a Photoshop tip that offers a bit more control in doing a combined image like yours? "Yes" you say? Ok, here you go! (the explanation is long, the implementation is short, ok?)

Steps 1 and 2: great, keep 'em.

My tip is a modification of Step 3: instead of using the eraser tool (which make a permanent change to your layer), create a layer mask for your B&W layer, then use a standard paintbrush to "paint in transparency" (what you'd actually be doing is masking, i.e. literally "hiding", parts of the B&W layer so that the colour layer shows through).

The advantage of this technique is that it's non-destructive (you're not permanently changing any part of any layer) and that it's very easy to bring back any part that's hidden. Totally powerful tool.

First, hit the "d" key, that'll set the two colour swatches to their default (hence "d") of black and white.

Then, under the "Layer" menu, choose "Add Layer Mask" and choose the "show all" option.

It's important to note that the icon to the left of your layer in the Layers palette will now be a sort of gray square with a white hole (it was a paintbrush before you added the layer mask). That means that you're now working in the layer mask of the layer. To work in the actual pixels of the layer itself (say, to clone out a bug off a daffodil bloom), just click on the layer thumbnail and that Layers palette icon will change back into a paintbrush. To go back to working in the layer mask, just click on that mostly white rectangle that's to the right of the image thumbnail (hmm, I really should provide screenshots. If I'm confusing you, ask and I'll put some up).

When you are working in a mask of any type, anywhere you paint using pure black you will hide that part of your layer (you are painting in a literal "mask", it's kindof like actually erasing it, but you're just hiding it, and you can show it again: that's the really useful part). So, just choose a brush of appropriate size and, using a black paintbrush just mask out the black and white flowers.

To show stuff again, just paint with white in the layer mask. A really quick way to switch from black to white with your paintbursh is to use the keyboard shortcut "x" (this just flips the foreground and background colours in your toolbar).

To partially hide a portion of your B&W layer, paint in your Layer Mask with a gray paintbrush (this is where a layer mask is really powerful).

Oh, and another helpful shortcut (this one's easy) is to use the square brackets: "[" and "]" to quickly change your brush size, instead of having to go back to the Brushes palette every time you want a bigger or smaller brush (e.g. mask with a big brush for big leaves, tiny brush size to mask the fiddly corners of flowers and tips of leaves). The "[" bracket will shrink your brush, the "]" will grow your brush.

So, using a layer mask, "x", "d", "[" and "]", you can quickly paint in any complicated mask. And the great part, is that you can tweak it until it's perfect by just removing or adding to the mask until you're satisfied (unlike using the eraser tool, which you can undo without resorting to the History palette, and then you're undoing everything back to a certain point! Pain in the butt)

Hope this is useful to you.

Cheers!

Chas

ps. get a graphics tablet, abolutely indespensible when painting in Photoshop (I use mine a lot when doing complicated masking, like with your daffodils). Way better than a mouse, far more precise control.
I actually spent about 30 minutes or so doing each one. Here's
what I did...

1. Created a Channel Mixer layer on the original.
2. Converted to monochrome and adjsuted the RGB channels so that
the B&W was to my liking.
3. I blew up the pic to around 200% and then used the eraser tool
to erase the areas of the flowers and stems on the channel mixer
layer to bring back the color from the original background.

The tough part was staying within the lines of the flowers and
stems. If you blow the pic up or look closely, you'll see a few
places of brown fence or ground where I goofed a little. It's hard
to tell on the web so I wasn't too worried. If I decide to print
one, I'll spend more time and be more precise! :-)

Take care,

Teski
I like the 1st shot (b&w) a lot more--it's more interesting scene.
The placement and strong colors of the flowers command my attention
there.
How much time did you spent post-proc. this image and how did you
sellect just flowers and leaves to keep the colors? I tried using
magic-wan in my last attempt but I find myself having to select and
select and keep selecting... a bit of frustration.

Cool effect, bud.
The'
 
Thanks for the details. What you say makes total sense! I'm going to give this a shot ASAP. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks!

Teski
May I offer a Photoshop tip that offers a bit more control in doing
a combined image like yours? "Yes" you say? Ok, here you go! (the
explanation is long, the implementation is short, ok?)

Steps 1 and 2: great, keep 'em.

My tip is a modification of Step 3: instead of using the eraser
tool (which make a permanent change to your layer), create a layer
mask for your B&W layer, then use a standard paintbrush to "paint
in transparency" (what you'd actually be doing is masking, i.e.
literally "hiding", parts of the B&W layer so that the colour layer
shows through).

The advantage of this technique is that it's non-destructive
(you're not permanently changing any part of any layer) and that
it's very easy to bring back any part that's hidden. Totally
powerful tool.

First, hit the "d" key, that'll set the two colour swatches to
their default (hence "d") of black and white.

Then, under the "Layer" menu, choose "Add Layer Mask" and choose
the "show all" option.

It's important to note that the icon to the left of your layer in
the Layers palette will now be a sort of gray square with a white
hole (it was a paintbrush before you added the layer mask). That
means that you're now working in the layer mask of the layer. To
work in the actual pixels of the layer itself (say, to clone out a
bug off a daffodil bloom), just click on the layer thumbnail and
that Layers palette icon will change back into a paintbrush. To go
back to working in the layer mask, just click on that mostly white
rectangle that's to the right of the image thumbnail (hmm, I really
should provide screenshots. If I'm confusing you, ask and I'll put
some up).

When you are working in a mask of any type, anywhere you paint
using pure black you will hide that part of your layer (you are
painting in a literal "mask", it's kindof like actually erasing it,
but you're just hiding it, and you can show it again: that's the
really useful part). So, just choose a brush of appropriate size
and, using a black paintbrush just mask out the black and white
flowers.

To show stuff again, just paint with white in the layer mask. A
really quick way to switch from black to white with your paintbursh
is to use the keyboard shortcut "x" (this just flips the foreground
and background colours in your toolbar).

To partially hide a portion of your B&W layer, paint in your Layer
Mask with a gray paintbrush (this is where a layer mask is really
powerful).

Oh, and another helpful shortcut (this one's easy) is to use the
square brackets: "[" and "]" to quickly change your brush size,
instead of having to go back to the Brushes palette every time you
want a bigger or smaller brush (e.g. mask with a big brush for big
leaves, tiny brush size to mask the fiddly corners of flowers and
tips of leaves). The "[" bracket will shrink your brush, the "]"
will grow your brush.

So, using a layer mask, "x", "d", "[" and "]", you can quickly
paint in any complicated mask. And the great part, is that you can
tweak it until it's perfect by just removing or adding to the mask
until you're satisfied (unlike using the eraser tool, which you can
undo without resorting to the History palette, and then you're
undoing everything back to a certain point! Pain in the butt)

Hope this is useful to you.

Cheers!

Chas

ps. get a graphics tablet, abolutely indespensible when painting in
Photoshop (I use mine a lot when doing complicated masking, like
with your daffodils). Way better than a mouse, far more precise
control.
I actually spent about 30 minutes or so doing each one. Here's
what I did...

1. Created a Channel Mixer layer on the original.
2. Converted to monochrome and adjsuted the RGB channels so that
the B&W was to my liking.
3. I blew up the pic to around 200% and then used the eraser tool
to erase the areas of the flowers and stems on the channel mixer
layer to bring back the color from the original background.

The tough part was staying within the lines of the flowers and
stems. If you blow the pic up or look closely, you'll see a few
places of brown fence or ground where I goofed a little. It's hard
to tell on the web so I wasn't too worried. If I decide to print
one, I'll spend more time and be more precise! :-)

Take care,

Teski
I like the 1st shot (b&w) a lot more--it's more interesting scene.
The placement and strong colors of the flowers command my attention
there.
How much time did you spent post-proc. this image and how did you
sellect just flowers and leaves to keep the colors? I tried using
magic-wan in my last attempt but I find myself having to select and
select and keep selecting... a bit of frustration.

Cool effect, bud.
The'
 
Yup, and I'm gearing up for the Tulip Festival that takes place out here in April. Should be good! Lots of color! :-)

Thanks for the tip...I responded to your detailed PS post in the thread. I appreciate the suggestions and help.

Take care,

Teski
so, your daffodils are catching up with ours in London eh? Welcome
to Spring! (fun, ain't it?)

I like your idea (I really enjoy that B&W+colour effect). I agree
with Alex though, perhaps dropping the saturation/tone down a bit
on flowers will allow them to work better with the tonality of the
B&W portion of the image.

I'm gonna get me one of those VR lenses, just you wait! (and then
you guys are gonna be in trouble :-)

Cheers!

Chas
I like this shot. Composition is really nice and I like the effect
of color and B&W. Is the second shot a crop ? At first, it seemed
to me that the flowers were a little blown but looking at second
shot (I guess it´s a crop) it looks OK.
Regards,
Hello -

I took this shot in my backyard yesterday using the 70-200 AFS VR.
The shot looked okay in color, but I thought it might be
interesting in a B&W/Color combo, plus I wanted to practice some PS
processing. :-) I added a channel mixer layer, converted the layer
to B&W (adjusted the RGB to my liking) and then erased the areas
over the daffodils and stems.

By no means is it perfect. If you blow this one up, you'd see that
I erased outside the lines a couple of times. :-)

Overall though, let me know what you think.



Thanks,

Teski
--
Paulo Abreu
http://www.pbase.com/psergio

'Buy a FujiFilm S2 Pro TODAY because ONE DAY you will be dead !'
--Very nice teski,

I will try this myself.
maybe when you fade the colours a bit the flowers will look less
blown.
give it a try

It's great to go out in the garden again ans see some flowers after
winter.

thanks for sharing

alex from holland

Fuji s2 pro
nikon 28-105
Sigma 105 macro
Sigma 50-500
Nikon sb24

'You don't take a picture, it's given to you'
 
I'll have to play more with it and see what I think. This was shot with the new 70-200 AFS VR. It's really a rockin' lens! You'll love it!

Teski
Nick.


Let me know if this is what you were thinking.

Take care,

Teski
Nice going.
Nick.
Hello -

I took this shot in my backyard yesterday using the 70-200 AFS VR.
The shot looked okay in color, but I thought it might be
interesting in a B&W/Color combo, plus I wanted to practice some PS
processing. :-) I added a channel mixer layer, converted the layer
to B&W (adjusted the RGB to my liking) and then erased the areas
over the daffodils and stems.

By no means is it perfect. If you blow this one up, you'd see that
I erased outside the lines a couple of times. :-)

Overall though, let me know what you think.



Thanks,

Teski
 
Hey Teski,

Never a problem, just giving back :-)

Enjoy!

Chas
Teski
May I offer a Photoshop tip that offers a bit more control in doing
a combined image like yours? "Yes" you say? Ok, here you go! (the
explanation is long, the implementation is short, ok?)

Steps 1 and 2: great, keep 'em.

My tip is a modification of Step 3: instead of using the eraser
tool (which make a permanent change to your layer), create a layer
mask for your B&W layer, then use a standard paintbrush to "paint
in transparency" (what you'd actually be doing is masking, i.e.
literally "hiding", parts of the B&W layer so that the colour layer
shows through).

The advantage of this technique is that it's non-destructive
(you're not permanently changing any part of any layer) and that
it's very easy to bring back any part that's hidden. Totally
powerful tool.

First, hit the "d" key, that'll set the two colour swatches to
their default (hence "d") of black and white.

Then, under the "Layer" menu, choose "Add Layer Mask" and choose
the "show all" option.

It's important to note that the icon to the left of your layer in
the Layers palette will now be a sort of gray square with a white
hole (it was a paintbrush before you added the layer mask). That
means that you're now working in the layer mask of the layer. To
work in the actual pixels of the layer itself (say, to clone out a
bug off a daffodil bloom), just click on the layer thumbnail and
that Layers palette icon will change back into a paintbrush. To go
back to working in the layer mask, just click on that mostly white
rectangle that's to the right of the image thumbnail (hmm, I really
should provide screenshots. If I'm confusing you, ask and I'll put
some up).

When you are working in a mask of any type, anywhere you paint
using pure black you will hide that part of your layer (you are
painting in a literal "mask", it's kindof like actually erasing it,
but you're just hiding it, and you can show it again: that's the
really useful part). So, just choose a brush of appropriate size
and, using a black paintbrush just mask out the black and white
flowers.

To show stuff again, just paint with white in the layer mask. A
really quick way to switch from black to white with your paintbursh
is to use the keyboard shortcut "x" (this just flips the foreground
and background colours in your toolbar).

To partially hide a portion of your B&W layer, paint in your Layer
Mask with a gray paintbrush (this is where a layer mask is really
powerful).

Oh, and another helpful shortcut (this one's easy) is to use the
square brackets: "[" and "]" to quickly change your brush size,
instead of having to go back to the Brushes palette every time you
want a bigger or smaller brush (e.g. mask with a big brush for big
leaves, tiny brush size to mask the fiddly corners of flowers and
tips of leaves). The "[" bracket will shrink your brush, the "]"
will grow your brush.

So, using a layer mask, "x", "d", "[" and "]", you can quickly
paint in any complicated mask. And the great part, is that you can
tweak it until it's perfect by just removing or adding to the mask
until you're satisfied (unlike using the eraser tool, which you can
undo without resorting to the History palette, and then you're
undoing everything back to a certain point! Pain in the butt)

Hope this is useful to you.

Cheers!

Chas

ps. get a graphics tablet, abolutely indespensible when painting in
Photoshop (I use mine a lot when doing complicated masking, like
with your daffodils). Way better than a mouse, far more precise
control.
I actually spent about 30 minutes or so doing each one. Here's
what I did...

1. Created a Channel Mixer layer on the original.
2. Converted to monochrome and adjsuted the RGB channels so that
the B&W was to my liking.
3. I blew up the pic to around 200% and then used the eraser tool
to erase the areas of the flowers and stems on the channel mixer
layer to bring back the color from the original background.

The tough part was staying within the lines of the flowers and
stems. If you blow the pic up or look closely, you'll see a few
places of brown fence or ground where I goofed a little. It's hard
to tell on the web so I wasn't too worried. If I decide to print
one, I'll spend more time and be more precise! :-)

Take care,

Teski
I like the 1st shot (b&w) a lot more--it's more interesting scene.
The placement and strong colors of the flowers command my attention
there.
How much time did you spent post-proc. this image and how did you
sellect just flowers and leaves to keep the colors? I tried using
magic-wan in my last attempt but I find myself having to select and
select and keep selecting... a bit of frustration.

Cool effect, bud.
The'
 
Thanks man! Glad you liked it! Chas gave me some good tips in his response in case you're looking for some info...I love playing around in PS...Too fun!

Glad you had a good birthday. We'll buy ya a beer when you get here.

Teski
The mix of color and B&W here is really nice to the eye, I think.
Well done, and thx for sharing.

Best,
Dioni
You don't take a photograph, you make it (Ansel Adams)
 
Hey Teski,

I've been away for a while, and have missed you guys (one guy more so than others, of course :)). This is a wonderful shot, Teski. I love how you've isolated the flower and haven't forgotten the little bit of leaf just to the right. Cool!
 
Welcome back...Glad to see ya around again! Thanks for the compliment...I'm having a blast with PS.

I'm sure others missed you as well...Particularly one person. He he...

Teski
Hey Teski,

I've been away for a while, and have missed you guys (one guy more
so than others, of course :)). This is a wonderful shot, Teski. I
love how you've isolated the flower and haven't forgotten the
little bit of leaf just to the right. Cool!
 

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