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I have found that a certain kind of person/political affiliation doesnt like the truth. Yes in every state where guns are allowed to be carried on your person the crime rate has gone down. Not by a smal amount either. In some stated where ccw was inacted the crime rate went down 28-almost 40%

I realize this is hard to fathom for you. If I had the media telling me guns are bad guns are dangerous every 5 seconds I wouldnt believe it either.

You can choose any other object in the house or garage and according to statistics it kills more people than guns. When the media talks about kids that die from guns they are lumping in gang members under 21. That accounts for about 92% of the "kids" statistics.

I think they should ban alcohol it kills 60,000 people per year in car accidents alone. My father was killed by a drunk driver. If you then take all the medical related deaths from alcohol it would run into the millions.

If you then take all the crime perpetrated while people are drunk it would run into the hundreds of million more likely billions.

If you really care about something jump on the anti-alcohol bandwagon.

Oh by the way did the media tell you more kids drown in pools or for that matter more kids down in 5 gallon buckets then are shot by guns.

I have been shooting (targets) since I was 7 yo. I have never "killed" anyone. Guns in the hands of law abiding citizens keeps this society safe. Dont belive me look at any country where guns are banned.

Look at Australia or England and the signifcant rise in all areas of crime as soo as they banned guns. Austrailas crime rate went up somewhere in the range or 30%. Thats 30% more ****, murder, home invasion etc.

Law abiding citizens are by nature law abiding. Criminals are by nature law breakers. Therefore if you disarm one the other will thrive.

The victims will be the law abiders.

I could talk for hours but I need to go car jack someone with my evil black rifle. :)
Bruce Conner said:
I went to a gun show this weekend (USA midwest) and decided to take
along my new 10D to do some shots of two models that were supposed
to be working a booth there. The crowd was moderate and many had
guns with them to sell or trade. I bought my ticket and then they
wouldn't let me in because I had a camera! WOW! When did cameras
become more dangerous than a redneck with an assualt rifle? Our
society is seriously psychotic. 100,000 square feet of guns with
half of them being military and I had the most dangerous weapon.
What is next a special "carry permit" for a pocket camera? I
carried a camera everywhere in Vietnam in 1969 and no one thought
that pictures were a security risk.

BC
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Andreas Steiner said:
Member said:
Can't do that. Why? Then it would be fair and balanced:-)
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Not true (I posted my answer without having read your post) - I
would like to post pictures to every war tragedy, but that's not
possible, because there are simply too many. It also wouldn't add
much to my statement that cameras can be a "security risk" indeed.
But that's probably beyond your understanding of "fair and
balanced".
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The smiley face on the end of my sentence, indicates that I was joking with the poster of the comment.

The point we were trying to make was, sometimes people post the aftermath/results of the war, not the cause that brought us to the point of the photographs.

Examples are the carnage of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. What people don't post is what how we got to that point that anybody would consider the action reasonable. Are there any photographs of the "**** of Nanking" and the slaughter of three hundred thousand Chinese? Woops, the press missed that photographic opportunity. Some try to ignore the history that went on in Asia from 1910 to 1945. Others recognize the action to be the final action against those last thirty-five years. Not trying to go political but trying to post an example.

The "Highway of Death" was the earned result of a Dictator that invaded a soverign nation for the purpose of looting it. That's exactly what they did and the looters got what they deserved, in kind and in turn. But Saddam, neatly forgot to ask the press to his party, so his actions went undocumented by the press until after the fact.

The press has a wonderfull way of providing poignant images of the time and moment that sear our brain but they neatly forget the other side out of convenience so the story becomes one sided.
 
DON said:
A E Hansen said:
Photo Noob said:
Maybe they were thinking not of security risks, but of people
trying to "case" certain peoples inventory to make "later"
selectoins of the not so legal type. Most guns that commit crimes
in the USA are stolen. What a great way to find that piece that you
are looking for by documenting who has it and what it looks like.
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I think you might be right...there are many items of dubious
legality sold at many gun shows.
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How many gun shows in the last five years have you read about being invaded and busted by the FBI and BATF?

The fact that it's probably zero indicates the truth on the matter. You don't think the left wing wackos aren't walking the isles of the shows just hoping to find an excuse to make a case and but up the sales of guns? Notice that it's not happening. You're looking for fire where there isn't even smoke.
 
DavidP said:
She couldn't get to it until after she'd been violated, but she
finally managed to shoot and kill the rapist.

I'd say that's a very good thing. Would've been even better if
she'd offed him BEFORE he was able to complete the ****.

God forbid you're even in fear for your life, calling 9-1-1 on your
phone, you'll wish YOU had a gun, too.
Evrim said:
Sorry but how can you portray a weapon in a good light? Weapons are
made to kill living beings - how can that be good?
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The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
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I'm not part of the anti-gun crowd, but it's foolish to think guns are having a positive influence on our society.

If you need to protect your home, get a dog or two (not a viscious one). Any police officer will tell you criminals fear dogs more than anything. If you want to protect your equipment investment on location, get insurance.

Regards,
Bern Caughey
 
DavidP said:
Sounds nice, but you don't have the right to take a camera in to
where one isn't allowed.
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And would it be safe to say that it's okay for those inside to not want cameras or to have their activities photographed? Isn't that their right to say, "Hey!" "I don't want no stinkin cameras!"

Where's the grind? It's a private, pay to get in show? They can set no camera policies at a circus. Don't read anybody complaining. And when Babs says "HEY!" "No stinking cameras!" You don't read about anybody whining.

Is this just more of the left wing wackos saying whats good for us isn't good for the otherside? :-)
 
Tell'um, not that anybody is listening. The choir doesn't need preaching to and the folks that have bought into the "guns are evil" theory ain't going to be persuaded by facts or statistics, they have emotion on their side.

I am selling my benchrest rifle to finance some of my new camera equipment. My EBR's and 1911's and assorted party guns ain't going nowhere.

"An armed society is a polite society"

Hu
 
A E Hansen said:
Chiz said:
Even if a band such as the Clinton chicks or is that the Baghdad
chicks (the ones that used to be the dixie chicks)(my new name for
them - not theirs) rent a public facility they have a right to
prohibit cameras
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Sure it matters...if public you start writing letters to your
public officals bitching about how stupid it is that they allow
renters to ban photography is a taxpayer supported facility. Will
it necessarily get results, no, but it most certainly matters.
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Sorry. Doesn't work that way. It doesn't matter who does the renting. Once the rental agreement is signed, standard leasing/rental agreements apply. Public venue or not.
 
The three radio stations around here have taken the Chicks music off the air.

The good news is that at least one of them is playing "Traveling Soldier" (their latest single) by Bruce Robison (the songwriter, who's from Texas). I love to hear the songwriters.

The bad news is that I thought this would give me the opporuntity to buy some cheap floor tickets to their July 30th concert here in Houston, TX. Two just went on Ebay last night for over $300.

Oh, well. Maybe the radio stations will give me their promo tickets. ;)

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The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
 
I can assure you they fear the sound of a 12-gage pump being pumped more than a non-viscious dog.
Bern Caughey said:
If you need to protect your home, get a dog or two (not a viscious
one). Any police officer will tell you criminals fear dogs more
than anything. If you want to protect your equipment investment on
location, get insurance.
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--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
 
I was out late at night shooting and 2 gang members walked out of no where. They started talking to me and were looking around like (is anyone looking) they were about to commit a crime. I asked them if they wanted to see my new H&K 45 and yanked it out of my coat pocket. You should have seen the look on their faces. Whats that commercial about "priceless"?
Bern Caughey said:
I'm not part of the anti-gun crowd, but it's foolish to think guns
are having a positive influence on our society.

If you need to protect your home, get a dog or two (not a viscious
one). Any police officer will tell you criminals fear dogs more
than anything. If you want to protect your equipment investment on
location, get insurance.

Regards,
Bern Caughey
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Bruce Conner said:
I went to a gun show this weekend (USA midwest) and decided to take
along my new 10D to do some shots of two models that were supposed
to be working a booth there. The crowd was moderate and many had
guns with them to sell or trade. I bought my ticket and then they
wouldn't let me in because I had a camera! WOW! When did cameras
become more dangerous than a redneck with an assualt rifle? Our
society is seriously psychotic. 100,000 square feet of guns with
half of them being military and I had the most dangerous weapon.
What is next a special "carry permit" for a pocket camera? I
carried a camera everywhere in Vietnam in 1969 and no one thought
that pictures were a security risk.

BC
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“What actually happens in the real world is what photographers needs to know.”
Michael Reichmann – Luminous Landscape
 
Well, I mutter under my breath when I can't bring a "pro camera" into a concert venue. Usually for some big shot.

Thank God for Kenny Rogers.
Thomas Gardner said:
And when Babs says "HEY!" "No stinking cameras!" You
don't read about anybody whining.
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The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
 
Technically speaking, the name comes from blue-collar workers in the South, whose necks get red from being out in the sun all day. Primarily a Southern thing, too, I guess. Sun ain't hot enough up in Yankee-land, I guess. ;)

It's generally applied as a pejorative, and is somewhat akin to accusing somebody of being "trailer trash".

It's also applied many times to those living in the South (mainly Caucasians).

The funny thing about trying to insult rednecks: weez be too dumb to knows weez bein insulted, so weez just laf along wit ya.

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The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
 
usually the stores don't allow cameras for product espionage or someone using pictures of their products for their own use... i remember getting a rude seller coming and almost taking my camera in a fashion store, but he actually let me take the picture when he saw i was just shooting the price-tag... (i had to take a picture of the pricetag of a 500 euro umbrella(no I'm not kidding)).
 
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