review of the s400 can be found here:
http://dcresource.com/reviews/canon/powershot_s400-review/index_pfv.shtml
http://dcresource.com/reviews/canon/powershot_s400-review/index_pfv.shtml
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Jared Hunter
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You may wish to upgrade to a high quality Sony Trinitron monitor. I don't think you realize the level of detail the S400 can capture. It's detail that is important, not how much destructive in-camera sharpening the camera applies.
I have a 19" .25 Sony Trinitron monitor.
Daniel Mott
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I think it's a pity if folks don't buy a camera just because it doesn't apply agressive in-camera sharpening... You can do it much better yourself in the programs that come with the camera, or in Photoshop, with much moe control. The S400 captures excellent detail and you can often see every straw of grass, later when you sharpen the pics or downsize them, the high detail level will be kept and you'll have a picture without jaggies or other sharpening artifacts.
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Jared Hunter
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The .25 dot pitch might be your problem. The better 19" Sonys are .24mm
Another factor is the video card. Some cards are not very sharp when it comes to higher refresh rates and resolutions.
Another factor is the video card. Some cards are not very sharp when it comes to higher refresh rates and resolutions.
Jared Hunter
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I fullly agree and hope Canon doesn't change their policy to suit newbies. Some cameras are soft because they are inferior and don't capture a lot of detail while others do capture much detail but back off on the sharpening. The S400 is in the latter category.
The argument "I don't want to have to process every picture" doesn't hold water because one doesn't generally use images straight from the camera. For web posting you have to downsample anyways and an extra sharpening step is required (if you want good results) regardless of camera. For printing, you want to sharpen more than what looks good on the screen for optimal results. Therefore, there is not one level of sharpening that is optimal for all purposes. I'm glad Canon realizes this and doesn't try to apply excessive destructive sharpening to give the images artificial 'snap'.
The argument "I don't want to have to process every picture" doesn't hold water because one doesn't generally use images straight from the camera. For web posting you have to downsample anyways and an extra sharpening step is required (if you want good results) regardless of camera. For printing, you want to sharpen more than what looks good on the screen for optimal results. Therefore, there is not one level of sharpening that is optimal for all purposes. I'm glad Canon realizes this and doesn't try to apply excessive destructive sharpening to give the images artificial 'snap'.
Please provide some sharpened samples from the review site and I may believe you. From what I see they lack detail to the degree the S230 images did.
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LokTo
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u may simply do it yourself with a simple application like IrfanView...
It's all about LUCK!
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LokTo
--Please provide some sharpened samples from the review site and I
may believe you. From what I see they lack detail to the degree the
S230 images did.
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LokTo
I don't think I made myself clear Dan. I canceled because of problems with Dell. I will probally buy the S400 from another vendor but not untill after I see more website and user reviews.
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LokTo
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Agree, low quality video cards just can't do at 19"+
It's all about LUCK!
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LokTo
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LokTo
make sure you set your rez to 1600x1200 (or hightest you can get) before you compare pics .... many perfectly good multimeg shots can look 'soft' at 800x600.. the default that many operate Win at ... I always view/edit (although I get most outdoor or higher light level shots which need no editing ) my 230 shots with monitor at high rez setting ....
tonkabaydog
Member
I just purchased my S230. I like it very much. What brand card would you recommend with the S230. I am considering 256 or 512. Also, why do suppose Canon limits you to 30 second video in 640X480?
I'm using a Gainward GeForce4 4600 Ultra 750 XP in the latest 3gig P4 box I built last month. It serves as both a gaming and photo imaging box. I downloaded a few of the images and sharpened them in photoshop 7 and yes they do look better.
Daniel Mott
Active member
I use a Sandisk Ultra 128MB card and think it's great and fast. The reason of the 30 sec. limit is that the movie has to be written to an internal buffer (most memory cards are to slow to take the quick stream of images in 640x480) and then write to the memory card.
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Jared Hunter
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The S230/S400 DO NOT lack detail. Here's a crop from the original and a sharpened version for comparison. The worst thing a digicam can do is oversharpen and image in-camera.
http://www.pbase.com/image/14271344/original
http://www.pbase.com/image/14271344/original
I came up with the same results using Photoshop. They turned out very sharp and clear after all. Now if I could only get Dell to give me an honest delivery or ship date!
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