Are Canon's L Series Lenses Worth It?

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The new 10D with it's prices and features will allow me to finally make the plunge into the Digital SLR community. Currently I have no lenses though. I am looking all over the place as far as what to buy. I have heard good things about the L Series from Canon, but the prices are amazing compard to non-L Lenses. I don't want to get a bad lens and strap it to my new toy, but at the same time, on my budget I can get a lot more glass if I stay away. I just wanted to know if those with experience with the L series could help me. Is it worth getting one L series vs a couple non-L Lenses?
 
The new 10D with it's prices and features will allow me to finally
make the plunge into the Digital SLR community. Currently I have
no lenses though. I am looking all over the place as far as what
to buy. I have heard good things about the L Series from Canon,
but the prices are amazing compard to non-L Lenses. I don't want
to get a bad lens and strap it to my new toy, but at the same time,
on my budget I can get a lot more glass if I stay away. I just
wanted to know if those with experience with the L series could
help me. Is it worth getting one L series vs a couple non-L Lenses?
 
I think the 24 or 28-70L 2.8 would be a great start. That and the 75-300IS lens would no most things you would want to do. A lot depends on what you want to shoot. I have the 16-35L too if you want a wider angle lens. 35mm is like 56mm which is in the normal lens range--normal being 50mm. I wish the search feature were working. There are so many discussion of lenses available when that's working again.
 
Hi Matthew,

It is best to go with quality rather than quantity, one good lens is better than 5 bad ones. If your going to do most of your photography outdoors during daylight and in well lit conditions then go with Canon's non L line of lens. The 28-135IS makes a really good 1st all around lens. It is the 1st lens I bought and if I started all over again my choice would be the same. I don't own the 50mm 1.8 ($70), but from what I;ve heard is really sharp and would make a decent portrait lens. It's build quality is what you would expect for $70 bucks though. These 2 lenses would be a great start until you get more experience under your belt, then maybe save for an L lens. If you need to do any low light work get a L lens (the 50 1.8 will work in a pinch, but is not very sharp wide open)

My advice would be to steer clear of 3rd party lens as they generally need to be stopped down somewhat to get a sharp image and often fall off toward the edge, build quailty and resale value is not nearly as good as Canon's line.

Jack
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http://www.pbase.com/joneill
 
The 10D is my first dSLR, too. I'm taking heed of the good advice I've culled from the Forum, especially:

1. Hold back a bit until you're sure you know what you need (in terms of focal length). Don't assume you need to cover 20-300mm, at least not at first. Your style will dictate what you need.

2. Get the best you can afford, even if that means 2 lenses instead of 3, or 1 instead of 2. Or 1 instead of 3. LOL. You'll have the lenses longer than your 10D.

3. Consider primes instead of zooms. The 50/1.8 ($70) is often mentioned. The 28/2.8 (well under $200) is rated well, as are the 85/1.8 ($330) and the 100/2 ($370). Keeping in mind the 1.6 crop factor, those would give you, in 35mm terms: 45mm, 80mm, and 136 or 160mm. All at top quality for between $600 and $700.
4. Consider better, but used, lenses.

BTW, while they're all pricey, there is a range in the "L" series: the 70-200/f4 is under $600 and the upcoming 17-40/f4 may be under $700. Add the 50/1.8 and for well under $1500 you're covered in quality glass (assuming you don't need the 2.8 for low light or background effect).
The new 10D with it's prices and features will allow me to finally
make the plunge into the Digital SLR community. Currently I have
no lenses though. I am looking all over the place as far as what
to buy. I have heard good things about the L Series from Canon,
but the prices are amazing compard to non-L Lenses. I don't want
to get a bad lens and strap it to my new toy, but at the same time,
on my budget I can get a lot more glass if I stay away. I just
wanted to know if those with experience with the L series could
help me. Is it worth getting one L series vs a couple non-L Lenses?
 
1. Hold back a bit until you're sure you know what you need (in
terms of focal length). Don't assume you need to cover 20-300mm,
at least not at first. Your style will dictate what you need.
Some of the best advice. Keep in mind that you are investing in a system rather than a camera. Many of my Canon lenses are over 10 years old and have seen a variety of Canon bodies. I find it humorous that people have no trouble dropping $2-4k on a body and then quibble over a few measly bucks for a lens.

Besides, the lenses will hold on to value much better than the body will. Case in point: D60 bought 6 months ago is worth about 1/2 its value. A new 70-200L f2.8 would have decreased less than 10% and will depreciate much more slowly.
2. Get the best you can afford, even if that means 2 lenses
instead of 3, or 1 instead of 2. Or 1 instead of 3. LOL. You'll
have the lenses longer than your 10D.
Yup. See 1
3. Consider primes instead of zooms. The 50/1.8 ($70) is often
mentioned. The 28/2.8 (well under $200) is rated well, as are the
85/1.8 ($330) and the 100/2 ($370). Keeping in mind the 1.6 crop
factor, those would give you, in 35mm terms: 45mm, 80mm, and 136 or
160mm. All at top quality for between $600 and $700.
Absolutely. I started in photography before high quality zooms appeared and learned with primes. Admittedly, who doesn't like the convenience of a zoom lens, particularly outside of the studio? Still, one of the beautiful aspects of DSLR is its ease with which you can crop and manipulate, images. Consequently, it is much easier to use a prime and crop out distracting elements than it was in film.

If I had to recommend two primes for a beginner (I know this is a bit of heresy) with a D60 or 10D (mind the crop factor) it would be a relatively wider angle prime (20mm is a bit pricey, or the 24mm) and then the 85 or 100mm. I like the later lens for a variety of reasons including its laser sharpness and macro capabilities. Many people seem to like the 50mm 1.8 (~$70-80) or its much more expensive and better constructed f 1.4 brother; but its crop equivalent is 80mm which is way to long for most applications (landscapes, groups, etc.) Much of the hoopla associated with a 50mm is a legacy thing related to film photography and if you were dealing with a full-sized sensor, I would suggest buying one. With a 1.6 crop factor, it will sit in your bag more often than not.

This is why I also recommend the 24-85mm f3.5-4.5 zoom as a primary or all purpose lens. It is reasonably sharp (though no where near any of the primes), is a good value ($279), covers most commonly used focal lengths, provides great contrast color, and AF with a minimum of distortion, CA, etc.
4. Consider better, but used, lenses.
BTW, while they're all pricey, there is a range in the "L" series:
the 70-200/f4 is under $600 and the upcoming 17-40/f4 may be under
$700. Add the 50/1.8 and for well under $1500 you're covered in
quality glass (assuming you don't need the 2.8 for low light or
background effect).
This is really great advice and for reasons mentioned earlier is a wise way to go. Occasionally you can find some really good values and it is a useful and fun way to build a lens collection. Some useful older "L" series zoom lenses which can be found at reasonable prices include the 20-35, 80-200, and 28-80. There are some issues to consider which are beyond the scope here.
The new 10D with it's prices and features will allow me to finally
make the plunge into the Digital SLR community. Currently I have
no lenses though. I am looking all over the place as far as what
to buy. I have heard good things about the L Series from Canon,
but the prices are amazing compard to non-L Lenses. I don't want
to get a bad lens and strap it to my new toy, but at the same time,
on my budget I can get a lot more glass if I stay away. I just
wanted to know if those with experience with the L series could
help me. Is it worth getting one L series vs a couple non-L Lenses?
 
The new 10D with it's prices and features will allow me to finally
make the plunge into the Digital SLR community. Currently I have
no lenses though.
If you haven't a clue and money is tight, then ignorance is bliss.

Huh!

Sure, it means you won't be dissatisfied with less then the absolute best. And..... the most expensive isn't always the best.

If you're just starting out, get Canon's 75-300mm IS. It's relatively inexpensive and the images are of a decent quality.

Since you're new to the digital world, you have a huge learning curve ahead of you. You have printers, printing, paper, inks and computer programs to learn about to process the images after you capture them. You have compact flash memory cards and readers to learn about and get. You have to learn about the care and feeding of your camera. You have a lot of time and money to spend ahead of you and lenses isn't one of them:-)

With that in mind, get the 75-300mm IS by Canon. Pick up the 24-70mm f/2.8 by Sigma. Between these two lenses, you'll have all the lens you'll need to learn with and the image quality of the two lenses I mentioned ain't bad either. Don't worry, all the other things I mentioned, will do a lot in the way of keeping your wallet empty, so don't worry, the money that's burning a hole in your pocket today, has already been spent for the next year:-)

Hope my above is both insightful and helpful.
 
with the exception of the Canon 50mm f1.4, it's as good as L.
The new 10D with it's prices and features will allow me to finally
make the plunge into the Digital SLR community. Currently I have
no lenses though. I am looking all over the place as far as what
to buy. I have heard good things about the L Series from Canon,
but the prices are amazing compard to non-L Lenses. I don't want
to get a bad lens and strap it to my new toy, but at the same time,
on my budget I can get a lot more glass if I stay away. I just
wanted to know if those with experience with the L series could
help me. Is it worth getting one L series vs a couple non-L Lenses?
--
Tom
 
I am amazed at the difference! I just bought a 28-70 2.8L and it's worth every penny! As a matter of fact, the job I shot Monday paid for that lens and probably another L lens. I have been avoiding the plunge for years. First when shooting film, I always used to convince myself I could get by without one. I've had Tokinas, Tamrons, Sigmas.. none even comes close to the quallity of images I got with my 28-70 Monday!

I am a true believer now!

I will pay top dollar for that kind of quality from now on... after all, my clients are paying me for that quality.
The new 10D with it's prices and features will allow me to finally
make the plunge into the Digital SLR community. Currently I have
no lenses though. I am looking all over the place as far as what
to buy. I have heard good things about the L Series from Canon,
but the prices are amazing compard to non-L Lenses. I don't want
to get a bad lens and strap it to my new toy, but at the same time,
on my budget I can get a lot more glass if I stay away. I just
wanted to know if those with experience with the L series could
help me. Is it worth getting one L series vs a couple non-L Lenses?
 
to buy. I have heard good things about the L Series from Canon,
but the prices are amazing compard to non-L Lenses. I don't want
to get a bad lens and strap it to my new toy, but at the same time,
on my budget I can get a lot more glass if I stay away.
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/03022709canonef1740.asp

That lens there, they are saying "available in May for around $700".

On the 10D, it will be 27-64 mm, that's a very significant range
that you might use a real, real lot. In that case, $700 for an L
might be worth it.
 
There's no question that the images made with most of the L lenses and the ease in making them makes the well worth it. I really appreciated the advice that 1 great lens is worth 5 bad ones. It could also be said that a fairly well used and worn 70-200 2.8L or 28-70 2.8L is worth much more than a similarly priced new 24-85USM or 75-300. It's the glass! I know many pros that shoot POS cameras and the best glass. I own most of the L lenses (16-35,28-70,70-200 IS,300 2.8IS), but was very patient in aquiring them as I could afford, and they paid for themselves.

All that being said, there are some advantages to many non L lenses, that at careful apetures (F5.6-F8) make great images, and are far more compact and attract less attention. The 28-105 USM is a favorite of mine as well as the 20-35 USM. I still would rather own an old 20-35 2.8L than a new 20-35 3.5 USM and they both sell for about the same price.

The 1st image that you see the rich colors, high resolution, and softly blurred backgrounds will sell you on getting the best whenever possible.
best wishes,
Jon
The new 10D with it's prices and features will allow me to finally
make the plunge into the Digital SLR community. Currently I have
no lenses though. I am looking all over the place as far as what
to buy. I have heard good things about the L Series from Canon,
but the prices are amazing compard to non-L Lenses. I don't want
to get a bad lens and strap it to my new toy, but at the same time,
on my budget I can get a lot more glass if I stay away. I just
wanted to know if those with experience with the L series could
help me. Is it worth getting one L series vs a couple non-L Lenses?
 
... and WAY too expensive.

But they make up for what nature didn't bless me with, so I carry at least four of them at all times.

You will never regret buying red stripe lenses, whether the black or the (off-) white variety.
KP
The new 10D with it's prices and features will allow me to finally
make the plunge into the Digital SLR community. Currently I have
no lenses though. I am looking all over the place as far as what
to buy. I have heard good things about the L Series from Canon,
but the prices are amazing compard to non-L Lenses. I don't want
to get a bad lens and strap it to my new toy, but at the same time,
on my budget I can get a lot more glass if I stay away. I just
wanted to know if those with experience with the L series could
help me. Is it worth getting one L series vs a couple non-L Lenses?
--

29 lbs. of Canon stuff in a backpack that I carry everywhere. A closet full of things that are banned in Britain. A minivan and a Fender Stratocaster. A three bedroom ranch with three owls on an acre. An aversion to rumours. Also, absolutely no Canon 1200mm f/5.6. Yet.
 
Since I don't have any L glass, I wouldn't know.

But I do have non-L glass (Canon and Tamron) that works wonderfully, sharp, contrast, color...

Ultimately your budget wins. If you can pay for them because you're pro, cool. If you're like me and have a family that wants food on the table, well...high quality alternatives exist!
 
The new 10D with it's prices and features will allow me to finally
make the plunge into the Digital SLR community. Currently I have
no lenses though. I am looking all over the place as far as what
to buy. I have heard good things about the L Series from Canon,
but the prices are amazing compard to non-L Lenses. I don't want
to get a bad lens and strap it to my new toy, but at the same time,
on my budget I can get a lot more glass if I stay away. I just
wanted to know if those with experience with the L series could
help me. Is it worth getting one L series vs a couple non-L Lenses?
Yes, I'd recommend the L series. But you don't have to buy the most expensive L glass you can find! For example 70-200/4L is a great lens and it works very nicely with the 1.4x extender. Combined price should be less than $1000.

Consider also buying the lenses 2nd hand, there's a lot of used L series lenses around.
 
... can't compensate for lack of skill behind the viewfinder. You'll run into folks around here who firmly believe that having the best glass makes them the best photographers. But it doesn't really work that way.

Get a couple of lenses that appeal to you and work with them awhile. When and if you notice that they're limiting your artistic genius, go for the L lineup. It can cost more to do it that way -- but it can also cost a lot less, if you find that the cheaper glass floats your boat.
The new 10D with it's prices and features will allow me to finally
make the plunge into the Digital SLR community. Currently I have
no lenses though. I am looking all over the place as far as what
to buy. I have heard good things about the L Series from Canon,
but the prices are amazing compard to non-L Lenses. I don't want
to get a bad lens and strap it to my new toy, but at the same time,
on my budget I can get a lot more glass if I stay away. I just
wanted to know if those with experience with the L series could
help me. Is it worth getting one L series vs a couple non-L Lenses?
--
http://www.pbase.com/davek/
 
The new 10D with it's prices and features will allow me to finally
make the plunge into the Digital SLR community. Currently I have
no lenses though. I am looking all over the place as far as what
to buy. I have heard good things about the L Series from Canon,
but the prices are amazing compard to non-L Lenses. I don't want
to get a bad lens and strap it to my new toy, but at the same time,
on my budget I can get a lot more glass if I stay away. I just
wanted to know if those with experience with the L series could
help me. Is it worth getting one L series vs a couple non-L Lenses?
I would only recommend L lenses for people who fit in one of the following categories:
1) if you are a professional photog who can make money with them
2) if you are a very serious and dedicated amateur photog
3) if you are well off financially

The non L lenses fall into two categories:
1) the low cost lenses for casual amateur
2) the high quality for serious amateur

If you stick to the latter, you'll get perfectly good photos that you will enjoy.

Ultimately, having good affordable lenses that allow you to take photos that you can enjoy is preferable to having a great lense that can't.
--
xsy
 
To answer you question: Yes, the L lenses are wirth their money. But this doesn't mean that you have to buy L lenses. Alternatives do exist....
The new 10D with it's prices and features will allow me to finally
make the plunge into the Digital SLR community.
Good choice. Budget a lot of money for lenses. High-resolution cameras like the 10D operate very close to the optical limits of even very good lenses.
Currently I have no lenses though.
That's a good sarting point... ;-)
I have heard good things about the L Series from Canon,
They make up the best Canon has to offer. Check out...
http://www.usa.canon.com/eflenses/technology/lseries.html
but the prices are amazing compard to non-L Lenses.
...with one exception: The 70-200/f4. Note that in general, zooms (and especially the L zooms) are very expensive. You can save a lot of money by staying away from L zooms.
I don't want
to get a bad lens
Non-L doesn't necessarily mean "bad", especially when comparing L lenses to primes. As a rule, non-L primes deliver more or less the same optical performance as L zooms (contrast can be expected even to be a bit better).

Have you considered buying used lenses? As a beginner, I wouldn't recommend eBay, but check out the used section of dealers like http://www.adorama.com , for example.

Opinions differ a bit on that topic, but I would strongly recommend you staying away from third party manufactorers like Sigma etc. Especially as a newbie in the SLR world, you will probably discover your needs later and sell some of the lenses you buy now. The resale values of Canon optics is much better.

Andi
--
http://www.andreassteiner.net/photography
 
Hi Matthew,

You've already received plenty of excellent advice. For what it's worth, here's my bit. If you buy quality glass, you only have to buy it once. You get to use it, virtually trouble free, for as long as you want. In use, it will improve your photography, and then when you're done with it, you can sell it for almost what you paid for it. Compared to a highly perishable camera body (film or digital) lenses are like Gold Bullion. They're never likely to get much easier or cheaper to make, and (at least in the EOS scheme of things) they're not likely to be vastly improved upon.

The 'L' designation is mostly about expensive flourite elements, robust build quality, smooth operation and a healthy dash of red-stripe snob appeal. Qualitatively, some 'L's are more 'L' than other 'L's, and some 'Non-L's are more 'L' than some 'L's. Confused? Of course you are...;-)

Two Non-L lenses that approach L quality include the 50 f1.4, and the 100 Macro. Two 'L' lenses that approach Non-L price are the excellent 200 f2.8, and the previously mentioned 70-200 f4. One other potential bargain is the supurb 135 f2, which is rather pricey, but absolutely one of the best lenses Canon will ever make, at any focal length, at any price.

So to wrap up this ramble, in your position I would pick a budget, and keep my eyes open. Listen to opinion, and take your time. Buy one lens that everybody agrees is great, and use it a lot. Don't be in any hurry to fill out your arsenal, from 14mm to 600mm. Buying lenses is so much fun that the process just takes care of itself...
The new 10D with it's prices and features will allow me to finally
make the plunge into the Digital SLR community. Currently I have
no lenses though. I am looking all over the place as far as what
to buy. I have heard good things about the L Series from Canon,
but the prices are amazing compard to non-L Lenses. I don't want
to get a bad lens and strap it to my new toy, but at the same time,
on my budget I can get a lot more glass if I stay away. I just
wanted to know if those with experience with the L series could
help me. Is it worth getting one L series vs a couple non-L Lenses?
 

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