Firmware for E20

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Hi all.

As a result of my post titled Shutter failure poll, I have noticed that some E20 cams now have the firmware of 1.104 installed. Until now, I thought I had the latest firmware, but it seems there's been yet another update since.

Can anyone tell what the new 1.104 firmware update offers over the previous, and if it's something I should consider? I can't find any refernce to it on Oly's site (surprise, surprise).
Thanks a ton.

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Hi David:

Did you come to any conclusion about the Shutter?
Hi all.
As a result of my post titled Shutter failure poll, I have noticed
that some E20 cams now have the firmware of 1.104 installed. Until
now, I thought I had the latest firmware, but it seems there's been
yet another update since.
Can anyone tell what the new 1.104 firmware update offers over the
previous, and if it's something I should consider? I can't find
any refernce to it on Oly's site (surprise, surprise).
Thanks a ton.

--
(DC's)/ Oly E20, Kodak DC4800's, (DV)/ Canon GL1, ZR25,(35mm)/
Minolta HTsi+
PBase supporter
 
Hello George.

No, not yet. That was the point of the poll. A fellow old time member who now belongs to another forum and I discussed it after Gage's shutter failed and he came up with the idea that we should take the poll along with the pertinent information asked to attempt to see if there is anything really going on. We both used to not pay any attention to the old complaints and merely concluded that they were isolated incidents, but I've come around to think now that there is perhaps something going on. The other fellow in question (Dr. Gonzo for you old timers who would like to know) still believes that there is no "empirical evidence" to support a known issue, and I tend to agree with him still, but the fact remains that there is a certain number of cases now and it seems to be growing. So, the reason for the questions in the poll is to determine whether there may be some causal effects or circumstances that contribute to the Black Death, or if it's merely a case of poor design, or if there's a issue going on at all.

I am hoping more people will perhaps take the time to answer it after all the 4/3 hoopla dies down a bit and see if some useable data emerges from it at all that we can send to Oly to make a case if in fact an issue does exist.
Thanks for enquiring.
Did you come to any conclusion about the Shutter?
Hi all.
As a result of my post titled Shutter failure poll, I have noticed
that some E20 cams now have the firmware of 1.104 installed. Until
now, I thought I had the latest firmware, but it seems there's been
yet another update since.
Can anyone tell what the new 1.104 firmware update offers over the
previous, and if it's something I should consider? I can't find
any refernce to it on Oly's site (surprise, surprise).
Thanks a ton.

--
(DC's)/ Oly E20, Kodak DC4800's, (DV)/ Canon GL1, ZR25,(35mm)/
Minolta HTsi+
PBase supporter
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Can anyone answer this or shall I just assume from the lack of response that the newer firmware version is'nt really worth worrying about?
Hi all.
As a result of my post titled Shutter failure poll, I have noticed
that some E20 cams now have the firmware of 1.104 installed. Until
now, I thought I had the latest firmware, but it seems there's been
yet another update since.
Can anyone tell what the new 1.104 firmware update offers over the
previous, and if it's something I should consider? I can't find
any refernce to it on Oly's site (surprise, surprise).
Thanks a ton.

--
(DC's)/ Oly E20, Kodak DC4800's, (DV)/ Canon GL1, ZR25,(35mm)/
Minolta HTsi+
PBase supporter
--
(DC's)/ Oly E20, Kodak DC4800's, (DV)/ Canon GL1, ZR25,(35mm)/ Minolta HTsi+
PBase supporter
 
I also feel that the firmware might be related to shutter failure issues. I have 1.104 installed on mine, but can't help with your request for a comparison with a previous firmware - as I haven't used a previous E-20 with an earlier version, so don't know what improvements / changes have been made.

One question - has anyone with v.1.104 on their E-20 had shutter failure?
Hi all.
As a result of my post titled Shutter failure poll, I have noticed
that some E20 cams now have the firmware of 1.104 installed. Until
now, I thought I had the latest firmware, but it seems there's been
yet another update since.
Can anyone tell what the new 1.104 firmware update offers over the
previous, and if it's something I should consider? I can't find
any refernce to it on Oly's site (surprise, surprise).
Thanks a ton.

--
(DC's)/ Oly E20, Kodak DC4800's, (DV)/ Canon GL1, ZR25,(35mm)/
Minolta HTsi+
PBase supporter
--
Kind regards,

Rich Simpson
CP 950, 995, 5000
Olympus E100RS E20P FL-40 TCON-14B WCON-08 TCON300 MCON
 
Thanks anyway Rich. And good question about the shutter/firmware connection.

Though I fail actually to see where there could be a connection between firmware and an actual mechanical failure, who knows?

As far as the firmware goes, I had mine updated once already by Oly when I sent my cam in to get a lens replacement. That was last summer. I thought I still had the newest version until recently.

I have'nt had any trouble with my cam so I don't know what this newer firmware is supposed to address. Low-light focusing is still a bear at times for me, so I thought maybe the newer version addressed that perhaps. At any rate, I was just curious as to what it's supposed to rectify.
One question - has anyone with v.1.104 on their E-20 had shutter
failure?
Hi all.
As a result of my post titled Shutter failure poll, I have noticed
that some E20 cams now have the firmware of 1.104 installed. Until
now, I thought I had the latest firmware, but it seems there's been
yet another update since.
Can anyone tell what the new 1.104 firmware update offers over the
previous, and if it's something I should consider? I can't find
any refernce to it on Oly's site (surprise, surprise).
Thanks a ton.

--
(DC's)/ Oly E20, Kodak DC4800's, (DV)/ Canon GL1, ZR25,(35mm)/
Minolta HTsi+
PBase supporter
--
Kind regards,

Rich Simpson
CP 950, 995, 5000
Olympus E100RS E20P FL-40 TCON-14B WCON-08 TCON300 MCON
--
(DC's)/ Oly E20, Kodak DC4800's, (DV)/ Canon GL1, ZR25,(35mm)/ Minolta HTsi+
PBase supporter
 
I have had 1.104 for about a month now. I'm not sure but it feels that autofocus works better now. Previously the autofocus wasn't good when batteries were low. After the update I haven't had any problems with autofocus.
Hi all.
As a result of my post titled Shutter failure poll, I have noticed
that some E20 cams now have the firmware of 1.104 installed. Until
now, I thought I had the latest firmware, but it seems there's been
yet another update since.
Can anyone tell what the new 1.104 firmware update offers over the
previous, and if it's something I should consider? I can't find
any refernce to it on Oly's site (surprise, surprise).
Thanks a ton.

--
(DC's)/ Oly E20, Kodak DC4800's, (DV)/ Canon GL1, ZR25,(35mm)/
Minolta HTsi+
PBase supporter
--
Juha Koskela
 
I know this has been covered in previous posts, but the search function for the forum is down. What is the combination of buttons one pushes to determine the firmware. I can't remember.

Dave Dougherty
 
Thanks. My E-20 has version 1.103. With the exception that it may have trouble with Autofocus on low batteries, is there anything else I should know about? I hate to be without it for any length of time having sent it to Olympus.

Dave Dougherty
Here's the link for the firmware check procedure. My E20n is about
2 1/2 months old and has firmware version 1.104.

http://davidweikel.com/E20_Page/Firmware/version.shtml

Jerry

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E20n, LiPO, TCON-14b, WCON-08b, Vivitar 285/Wein Safe-Sync,
Lumiquest Pocket Bouncer, Vivitar heavy duty bracket system, Pbase
supporter, Bronica, Nikon, Gossen, and several pounds of glass.
 
A later post mentions that autofocus works fine with his v1.104. I would agree - I have tested mine in all low lighting conditions - down to low wattage indoor lamps, and don't have any problems.

Seriously I tried very hard to find where the system might have a problem - but it performs without fault for me. Maybe this is where the new firmware was targetted? Prior to the E-20 I had a late model E-10, and again focus was quick & precise.
One question - has anyone with v.1.104 on their E-20 had shutter
failure?
Hi all.
As a result of my post titled Shutter failure poll, I have noticed
that some E20 cams now have the firmware of 1.104 installed. Until
now, I thought I had the latest firmware, but it seems there's been
yet another update since.
Can anyone tell what the new 1.104 firmware update offers over the
previous, and if it's something I should consider? I can't find
any refernce to it on Oly's site (surprise, surprise).
Thanks a ton.

--
(DC's)/ Oly E20, Kodak DC4800's, (DV)/ Canon GL1, ZR25,(35mm)/
Minolta HTsi+
PBase supporter
--
Kind regards,

Rich Simpson
CP 950, 995, 5000
Olympus E100RS E20P FL-40 TCON-14B WCON-08 TCON300 MCON
--
(DC's)/ Oly E20, Kodak DC4800's, (DV)/ Canon GL1, ZR25,(35mm)/
Minolta HTsi+
PBase supporter
--
Kind regards,

Rich Simpson
CP 950, 995, 5000
Olympus E100RS E20P FL-40 TCON-14B WCON-08 TCON300 MCON
 
That's exactly my questions. But I do have issues from time to time with low-light AF. Perhaps I should look into getting the update. I WISH the darn firmware was downloadable!!!!!
I also suspect Oly will charge for it now that the cam is out of warranty?
Dave Dougherty
Here's the link for the firmware check procedure. My E20n is about
2 1/2 months old and has firmware version 1.104.

http://davidweikel.com/E20_Page/Firmware/version.shtml

Jerry

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E20n, LiPO, TCON-14b, WCON-08b, Vivitar 285/Wein Safe-Sync,
Lumiquest Pocket Bouncer, Vivitar heavy duty bracket system, Pbase
supporter, Bronica, Nikon, Gossen, and several pounds of glass.
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PBase supporter
 
Thanks for the info on price J.

On a side note, since there is no user-downloadable firmware for the Oly my opinion is the schmucks ought to do it for free (minus shipping costs even) but oh...well....
I remember reading that they charge $20 USD for a firmware upgrade
for a camera out of warranty. I have V1.102 and after reading this
thread am now considering if it worth sending it in. Don't know
when I want to be without my camera.

Leo

http://www2.photosig.com/userphotos.php?portfolioId=71618
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PBase supporter
 
I have sent an email to Olympus asking about the cost of upgrading my E-20 to version 1.104. I will let you all know the response.

Dave Dougherty
 
Thanks Dave!!
I have sent an email to Olympus asking about the cost of upgrading
my E-20 to version 1.104. I will let you all know the response.

Dave Dougherty
--
(DC's)/ Oly E20, Kodak DC4800's, (DV)/ Canon GL1, ZR25,(35mm)/ Minolta HTsi+
PBase supporter
 
Good grief, I really think Olympus is cutting their own throats by not allowing users to update their cameras with the latest firmware (hopefully, the new E series will allow for this). Anyway, I'm in the process of buying a new E-20, and the last thing I want is a new camera with out-dated/problematic firmware.
Thanks for the info on price J.
On a side note, since there is no user-downloadable firmware for
the Oly my opinion is the schmucks ought to do it for free (minus
shipping costs even) but oh...well....
 
Hi David,

I think the only way you'll get this information is if an Olympus insider posts it. I honestly can't understand Olympus' thinking about keeping the changes that were made secret, or not posting them on the web site.

This goes along with their decision of not allowing customers to upgrade their own firmware.

In the E-20 I haven't seen any accurate post concerning the differences between 1.101, 1.102, 1.103 and 1.104. Casual comparisons of feature changes by users on this forum is incomplete and doesn't offer much in terms of any minute changes in the internal operation of the camera.

--VJS
Hi all.
As a result of my post titled Shutter failure poll, I have noticed
that some E20 cams now have the firmware of 1.104 installed. Until
now, I thought I had the latest firmware, but it seems there's been
yet another update since.
Can anyone tell what the new 1.104 firmware update offers over the
previous, and if it's something I should consider? I can't find
any refernce to it on Oly's site (surprise, surprise).
Thanks a ton.

--
(DC's)/ Oly E20, Kodak DC4800's, (DV)/ Canon GL1, ZR25,(35mm)/
Minolta HTsi+
PBase supporter
 
Hey David,

Sorry I'm coming in late in the game, but I usually avoid heavy fimware topics and stick with the fluff pieces.

How's Gonzo doing? I forgot how much I miss him.
still believes that there is no "empirical evidence" to support a known issue, and I tend to agree with him still, but the fact remains that there is a certain number of cases now and it seems to be growing.
What sort of empirical evidence would he like? Would his shutter freezing on him be enough evidence? What about you? If was enough for me.

Here's the thing. Back when the black death announcements started showing up, the camera was relatively new. There weren't too many people around putting TENS of thousands of shots on the camera aside from Jono. Jono's camera made it past 30,000 in a relatively short period of time and that was kinda the evidence that there is no ABSOLUTE shutter count for the E. If Jono has made it to 30,000 than there must be something wrong with the cameras that dies, not all of the cameras. Well, it may b true that not ALL the cameras have frozen, but we seem to have inappropriately dismissed the breakdown and freak events when we should have considered Jono to be a freak event. But that would be too difficult. I believed my camera would live forever. I'M invincible, why not my camera too? The death of my camera has shown me that it is most likely that it is a design flaw and that the cameras are mortal and given time, the majority will end up back at Oly, on eBay or in the sh!tpile. (The experience still hasn't convinced me that I'm mortal. In time.)

I never had MF problems. It took me a while to get used to AF, but it worked fine. I had a dead pixel that I never noticed unless I ran tests for it. NOise never ruined any photos. All these problems that people were having with their cameras did not apply to me, so I figured a) all these people are nuts, b) all these people have bum cameras, and c) my camera rocks. Well, a week ago my camera was rendered as useless as a rock. Or as usefu as a rock if there were any Palistinian tanks I could throw it at. There weren't.

The evidence is there. And remember, we at DPR are a small number of E owners. Imagine how many are out there that we never hear about. The peace protestors believe there are no war supporters because the war supporters are not out there marching. Do you believe there are no other dead E's out there just because they have been posted on DPR?

Someday your shutter will die. SOME day. Maybe not tomorrow or even this year, but someday. Be ready.

Also: the "known issue"? Oly lists (listed) the shutter at 20,000 cycles. Do you think they'd OVERexaggerate ot UNDERexaggerate?

-Disillustioned and waiting for the 10D - the savior of the universe. God's gift to photographers. The camera that will not only last forever, be completely noiseless, write files to cards in .03 seconds and also end world hunger - it will also make your photos smell like vanilla and chocolate. Well, not YOURS, Mark.

-GageFX
Did you come to any conclusion about the Shutter?
Hi all.
As a result of my post titled Shutter failure poll, I have noticed
that some E20 cams now have the firmware of 1.104 installed. Until
now, I thought I had the latest firmware, but it seems there's been
yet another update since.
Can anyone tell what the new 1.104 firmware update offers over the
previous, and if it's something I should consider? I can't find
any refernce to it on Oly's site (surprise, surprise).
Thanks a ton.

--
(DC's)/ Oly E20, Kodak DC4800's, (DV)/ Canon GL1, ZR25,(35mm)/
Minolta HTsi+
PBase supporter
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Minolta HTsi+
PBase supporter
 
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Hi all.
As a result of my post titled Shutter failure poll, I have noticed
that some E20 cams now have the firmware of 1.104 installed. Until
now, I thought I had the latest firmware, but it seems there's been
yet another update since.
Can anyone tell what the new 1.104 firmware update offers over the
previous, and if it's something I should consider? I can't find
any refernce to it on Oly's site (surprise, surprise).
Thanks a ton.

--
(DC's)/ Oly E20, Kodak DC4800's, (DV)/ Canon GL1, ZR25,(35mm)/
Minolta HTsi+
PBase supporter
 

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