[Pic] Seattle Boat Co.

Mahesh · Mar 7, 2003

One more icon of Seattle. This was taken 12MP orig tone/hard saturation/hard sharpness. No increased saturation adjustment in PS...the neon lights were really that bright. I tried something on this shot that I normally wouldn't think of. I put a graduated neutral density filter infront of my lens (3 stops at the darkest area) and that did the trick. The highlights in lights may be a bit blown out but it's not too bad, compared to the shadow detail I was able to get. Yet another use for a graduated ND filter...it's not just for landscapes!

S2 & 20mm f2.8. Iso 100. Matrix-metering. f2.8. 2 sec.

--
At first I shot JPEG because I was naive and wanted quantity over quality.
Then I shot RAW, because I was still naive but wanted quality over
quantity. Now I've gone back to JPEG because I'm no longer naive, and I
want both quantity and quality.

--Mahesh Thapa

John Fulton · Mar 7, 2003

Mahesh said:
One more icon of Seattle. This was taken 12MP orig tone/hard
saturation/hard sharpness. No increased saturation adjustment in
PS...the neon lights were really that bright. I tried something on
this shot that I normally wouldn't think of. I put a graduated
neutral density filter infront of my lens (3 stops at the darkest
area) and that did the trick. The highlights in lights may be a
bit blown out but it's not too bad, compared to the shadow detail I
was able to get. Yet another use for a graduated ND filter...it's
not just for landscapes!

S2 & 20mm f2.8. Iso 100. Matrix-metering. f2.8. 2 sec.

--
At first I shot JPEG because I was naive and wanted quantity over
quality.
Then I shot RAW, because I was still naive but wanted quality over
quantity. Now I've gone back to JPEG because I'm no longer naive,
and I
want both quantity and quality.

--Mahesh Thapa

Hi Mahesh,
I like the content of this image !

Good 1 !
JHF

DF · Mar 7, 2003

Hi Mahesh,

Superb job on this one. Great idea to use the grad ND filter. Love the color reflections on the propeller.

Best wishes,

David

Rodger144066 · Mar 7, 2003

I was there last year and thats what it looked like, and thats how I felt.....thanks for the memory

Rodger

Ashok Rai · Mar 7, 2003

Mahesh,

Good shot bud. The graduated ND filter was a great idea (I've always wanted one of those for landscapes but can never find them in the store). I've been toying with the idea of picking up a 20mm before my trip to San Diego, and I really have liked the last few pics you've posted with your 20. I'm thinking about the Sigma 20 to get the extra stop for low light pics. Thanks as always for sharing the technical details of your pics. I see this forum has now brought you fame, and maybe a date?

Ashok

ps American Thoracic Society is meeting in Seattle in May and I may be making the trip! It all depends on my schedule. If I would get off my butt and get my case report done I could have been presenting at this conference. Oh well, hopefully I can make the trip.

Mahesh said:
One more icon of Seattle. This was taken 12MP orig tone/hard
saturation/hard sharpness. No increased saturation adjustment in
PS...the neon lights were really that bright. I tried something on
this shot that I normally wouldn't think of. I put a graduated
neutral density filter infront of my lens (3 stops at the darkest
area) and that did the trick. The highlights in lights may be a
bit blown out but it's not too bad, compared to the shadow detail I
was able to get. Yet another use for a graduated ND filter...it's
not just for landscapes!

S2 & 20mm f2.8. Iso 100. Matrix-metering. f2.8. 2 sec.

--
At first I shot JPEG because I was naive and wanted quantity over
quality.
Then I shot RAW, because I was still naive but wanted quality over
quantity. Now I've gone back to JPEG because I'm no longer naive,
and I
want both quantity and quality.

--Mahesh Thapa

--
Fuji S2 Pro
Sigma 70-200 2.8
Tokina 28-70 2.8
Nikon 50 1.8
Nikon SB-28dx

Zephalephelah · Mar 7, 2003

I don't like this one. It seems rather bland. But at least now you know that when I say I like your other ones it was my honest opinion and not just polite society talk.

Mahesh said:
One more icon of Seattle. This was taken 12MP orig tone/hard
saturation/hard sharpness. No increased saturation adjustment in
PS...the neon lights were really that bright. I tried something on
this shot that I normally wouldn't think of. I put a graduated
neutral density filter infront of my lens (3 stops at the darkest
area) and that did the trick. The highlights in lights may be a
bit blown out but it's not too bad, compared to the shadow detail I
was able to get. Yet another use for a graduated ND filter...it's
not just for landscapes!

S2 & 20mm f2.8. Iso 100. Matrix-metering. f2.8. 2 sec.

--
At first I shot JPEG because I was naive and wanted quantity over
quality.
Then I shot RAW, because I was still naive but wanted quality over
quantity. Now I've gone back to JPEG because I'm no longer naive,
and I
want both quantity and quality.

--Mahesh Thapa

--
--

There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary & those that don't.

Mahesh · Mar 7, 2003

John Fulton said:
Hi Mahesh,
I like the content of this image !

Good 1 !
JHF

Thanks Jonh! Kinda caught my eye

--
At first I shot JPEG because I was naive and wanted quantity over quality.
Then I shot RAW, because I was still naive but wanted quality over
quantity. Now I've gone back to JPEG because I'm no longer naive, and I
want both quantity and quality.

--Mahesh Thapa

Mahesh · Mar 7, 2003

DF said:
Hi Mahesh,

Superb job on this one. Great idea to use the grad ND filter.
Love the color reflections on the propeller.

Best wishes,

David

Thanks, David! The grad ND filter really came through for me

Even if the picture isn't spectacular it was a good technique and I thought I'd share.

--
At first I shot JPEG because I was naive and wanted quantity over quality.
Then I shot RAW, because I was still naive but wanted quality over
quantity. Now I've gone back to JPEG because I'm no longer naive, and I
want both quantity and quality.

--Mahesh Thapa

Mahesh · Mar 7, 2003

Rodger said:
I was there last year and thats what it looked like, and thats how
I felt.....thanks for the memory

Rodger

Thanks, Rodger! The place is eye-catching, isn't it? The main purpose of the image was to illustrate the cool use of the grad ND filter for less "conventional" stuff

--
At first I shot JPEG because I was naive and wanted quantity over quality.
Then I shot RAW, because I was still naive but wanted quality over
quantity. Now I've gone back to JPEG because I'm no longer naive, and I
want both quantity and quality.

--Mahesh Thapa

Mahesh · Mar 7, 2003

Ashok Rai said:
Mahesh,
Good shot bud. The graduated ND filter was a great idea (I've
always wanted one of those for landscapes but can never find them
in the store). I've been toying with the idea of picking up a 20mm
before my trip to San Diego, and I really have liked the last few
pics you've posted with your 20. I'm thinking about the Sigma 20
to get the extra stop for low light pics. Thanks as always for
sharing the technical details of your pics. I see this forum has
now brought you fame, and maybe a date?

Ashok
ps American Thoracic Society is meeting in Seattle in May and I may
be making the trip! It all depends on my schedule. If I would get
off my butt and get my case report done I could have been
presenting at this conference. Oh well, hopefully I can make the
trip.

Thanks, Ashok. I'm glad the picts and info has been helpful to you. I don't know much about the Sigma 20, but the Nikkor is great! With a focal length of 20 mm, I personally don't need any more light gathering ability than f2.8.

I hope you make it down here for the ATS meeting! Teski, you, maybe Zeph (if he's free) and I may be able to go shooting!

--
At first I shot JPEG because I was naive and wanted quantity over quality.
Then I shot RAW, because I was still naive but wanted quality over
quantity. Now I've gone back to JPEG because I'm no longer naive, and I
want both quantity and quality.

--Mahesh Thapa

Mahesh · Mar 7, 2003

Zephalephelah said:
I don't like this one. It seems rather bland. But at least now you
know that when I say I like your other ones it was my honest
opinion and not just polite society talk.

Thanks for the honesty, bud!

I don't think it's blad, myself but oh well! The main point of the image was to illustrate a different use for the grad ND filter. Just wait till I come back from my trip to the grand canyon/zyon NP/Death Valley NP...maybe I'll be able to impress you with those images

Take care bud! Let's all go shooting one of these days...you, Teski, and me.

--
At first I shot JPEG because I was naive and wanted quantity over quality.
Then I shot RAW, because I was still naive but wanted quality over
quantity. Now I've gone back to JPEG because I'm no longer naive, and I
want both quantity and quality.

--Mahesh Thapa

Jenny Sanders · Mar 7, 2003

I love the neon colors and how blue the sky came out, even in the darkness. What's a graduated neutral density filter, Mahesh? Sorry if that's a stupid question.

alex from holland · Mar 7, 2003

Mahesh said:
One more icon of Seattle. This was taken 12MP orig tone/hard
saturation/hard sharpness. No increased saturation adjustment in
PS...the neon lights were really that bright. I tried something on
this shot that I normally wouldn't think of. I put a graduated
neutral density filter infront of my lens (3 stops at the darkest
area) and that did the trick. The highlights in lights may be a
bit blown out but it's not too bad, compared to the shadow detail I
was able to get. Yet another use for a graduated ND filter...it's
not just for landscapes!

S2 & 20mm f2.8. Iso 100. Matrix-metering. f2.8. 2 sec.

--
At first I shot JPEG because I was naive and wanted quantity over
quality.
Then I shot RAW, because I was still naive but wanted quality over
quantity. Now I've gone back to JPEG because I'm no longer naive,
and I
want both quantity and quality.

--Mahesh Thapa

--As usual : great shot mahesh. i like the reflections in that propeller blade.
BTW Did you bought a boot ??
alex from holland

'You don't take a picture, it's given to you'

Dioni · Mar 8, 2003

Nice one, again. Nothing seems to be blown and the detail in the lower part is great.

About the usage of the filter, take a look at this page by Thom ( http://www.bythom.com/filters.htm ). He used one of those filters in a very creative way to create the image in the top of the page.

Thx for sharing, bud.

Dioni
You don't take a photograph, you make it (Ansel Adams)

Mahesh · Mar 8, 2003

Jenny Sanders said:
I love the neon colors and how blue the sky came out, even in the
darkness. What's a graduated neutral density filter, Mahesh?
Sorry if that's a stupid question.

No stupid questions here, kiddo!

A grad ND filter is a filter that goes from dark to clear. Some are hard and some are soft. Hard means there is a quick transitions between the dark and clear areas and soft means there is a gradual transition. I used the soft one on this shot. Thanks for the comments, Jenny.

--
At first I shot JPEG because I was naive and wanted quantity over quality.
Then I shot RAW, because I was still naive but wanted quality over
quantity. Now I've gone back to JPEG because I'm no longer naive, and I
want both quantity and quality.

--Mahesh Thapa

Mahesh · Mar 8, 2003

alex from holland said:
--As usual : great shot mahesh. i like the reflections in that
propeller blade.
BTW Did you bought a boot ??
alex from holland

'You don't take a picture, it's given to you'

LOL!

Nope, I didn't buy a boat...I'm poor :-(...maybe some day

Thanks for the comments, bud!

--
At first I shot JPEG because I was naive and wanted quantity over quality.
Then I shot RAW, because I was still naive but wanted quality over
quantity. Now I've gone back to JPEG because I'm no longer naive, and I
want both quantity and quality.

--Mahesh Thapa

Mahesh · Mar 8, 2003

Dioni said:
Nice one, again. Nothing seems to be blown and the detail in the
lower part is great.

About the usage of the filter, take a look at this page by Thom
( http://www.bythom.com/filters.htm ). He used one of those filters
in a very creative way to create the image in the top of the page.

Thx for sharing, bud.

Dioni
You don't take a photograph, you make it (Ansel Adams)

Thanks, bud! I just read the article...very good! The grad ND filter is gonna come in really handy for our trip in Late April...you should get one too if you don't already have one. I think Thom recommended 3stop hard and 2 stop soft as a starter.

--
At first I shot JPEG because I was naive and wanted quantity over quality.
Then I shot RAW, because I was still naive but wanted quality over
quantity. Now I've gone back to JPEG because I'm no longer naive, and I
want both quantity and quality.

--Mahesh Thapa

Teski · Mar 8, 2003

Hey man...You're all over the place. I actually haven't seen this place before. Where exactly is it?

Anyway, I love the bright colors, and the composition is very cool. You're right about some of the blowout on the bright lights, but I think it adds to the pic. Nicely done.

Teski

Mahesh said:
One more icon of Seattle. This was taken 12MP orig tone/hard
saturation/hard sharpness. No increased saturation adjustment in
PS...the neon lights were really that bright. I tried something on
this shot that I normally wouldn't think of. I put a graduated
neutral density filter infront of my lens (3 stops at the darkest
area) and that did the trick. The highlights in lights may be a
bit blown out but it's not too bad, compared to the shadow detail I
was able to get. Yet another use for a graduated ND filter...it's
not just for landscapes!

S2 & 20mm f2.8. Iso 100. Matrix-metering. f2.8. 2 sec.

--
At first I shot JPEG because I was naive and wanted quantity over
quality.
Then I shot RAW, because I was still naive but wanted quality over
quantity. Now I've gone back to JPEG because I'm no longer naive,
and I
want both quantity and quality.

--Mahesh Thapa

Phil Askey117952 · Mar 8, 2003

While I know you were trying to demonstrate the effectiveness of the ND filter, there is a way that shot could be about 10 times better using half the content.

1. Frame it so that the spiral-object is the main subject.
2. Frame it from a 45 degree angle.
3. Shoot low down, looking up at the object.
4. Be sure that some of the subject extends into the foreground.
5. Round the image by using a short focal length.
6. Use large depth of field by setting apperture as closed as it will go.

You will probably need to do a long exposure if you're going to use a large depth of field.

You had extremely nice lighting on that object (sorry I don't know what it is). You should have taken advantage of it and taken a shot with lots of thrust (eye directing by the use of lines and texture).

I guess my suggestions are for doing a different shot, but just so you know what you could have done.

Arnie Itzkowitz · Mar 8, 2003

Love the color!

Mahesh said:
One more icon of Seattle. This was taken 12MP orig tone/hard
saturation/hard sharpness. No increased saturation adjustment in
PS...the neon lights were really that bright. I tried something on
this shot that I normally wouldn't think of. I put a graduated
neutral density filter infront of my lens (3 stops at the darkest
area) and that did the trick. The highlights in lights may be a
bit blown out but it's not too bad, compared to the shadow detail I
was able to get. Yet another use for a graduated ND filter...it's
not just for landscapes!

S2 & 20mm f2.8. Iso 100. Matrix-metering. f2.8. 2 sec.

--
At first I shot JPEG because I was naive and wanted quantity over
quality.
Then I shot RAW, because I was still naive but wanted quality over
quantity. Now I've gone back to JPEG because I'm no longer naive,
and I
want both quantity and quality.

--Mahesh Thapa

--
Arnie Itzkowitz
http://www.aerialexposures.com

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