Jason C.
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Can I say farewell to Nikon?
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Otel Garcia
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and if you decide to come back, no problem either. point is, ultimately you have to decide for yourself. as long as you're still shootin', everything is well.
you remind me of a hunter who once wrote to a gun editor in a magazine asking "should I upgrade to a .300 Blast-and-flash Magnum? [this was a newly introduced small compact cartridge that's supposed to do the job of a much older, larger one] or is my .30-06 just fine for mule deer?"
Now, I don't want to offend anybody here, knowing guns are a sensitive subject in some circles, but the reply of the editor is still worth pondering. He wrote back: "I wouldn't do it myself, and I don't think you need to, but if you are really bent on buying the Blast-and-flash magnum, then nothing will change your mind, even you have one pointed at you."
Cheers and keep shooting CAMERAS
Otel
you remind me of a hunter who once wrote to a gun editor in a magazine asking "should I upgrade to a .300 Blast-and-flash Magnum? [this was a newly introduced small compact cartridge that's supposed to do the job of a much older, larger one] or is my .30-06 just fine for mule deer?"
Now, I don't want to offend anybody here, knowing guns are a sensitive subject in some circles, but the reply of the editor is still worth pondering. He wrote back: "I wouldn't do it myself, and I don't think you need to, but if you are really bent on buying the Blast-and-flash magnum, then nothing will change your mind, even you have one pointed at you."
Cheers and keep shooting CAMERAS
Otel
Shutzman
Senior Member
Why can't the Nikon bashers just leave this forum quitely, sell their stuff on e-bay and let us move along shooting?
It is almost stressful following every few months a new digicam. I know it would take me 18 months to master the D100, so who the hell wants to deal with another new model?
The quality we have already must be appreciated. I'll bet Dollars to Doughnuts that 90% of the "ship jumpers" would not even dream to drop Nikon equipment - Hey , you chose Nikon over Canon after all - why?
With so many "ship jumpers", I can't understand why the 80-200mm NIKKOR AFS is selling for $1260 on e-bay. I was hoping for bargains.
All this idiotic argument about 10d, 1Ds, dropping price of D100, raising price of Pentax ist. All I am interested is taking great shots and after all it is 90% the shooter, 8% the lens and maybe 2% the body - so who cares?
It is almost stressful following every few months a new digicam. I know it would take me 18 months to master the D100, so who the hell wants to deal with another new model?
The quality we have already must be appreciated. I'll bet Dollars to Doughnuts that 90% of the "ship jumpers" would not even dream to drop Nikon equipment - Hey , you chose Nikon over Canon after all - why?
With so many "ship jumpers", I can't understand why the 80-200mm NIKKOR AFS is selling for $1260 on e-bay. I was hoping for bargains.
All this idiotic argument about 10d, 1Ds, dropping price of D100, raising price of Pentax ist. All I am interested is taking great shots and after all it is 90% the shooter, 8% the lens and maybe 2% the body - so who cares?
you remind me of a hunter who once wrote to a gun editor in a
magazine asking "should I upgrade to a .300 Blast-and-flash Magnum?
[this was a newly introduced small compact cartridge that's
supposed to do the job of a much older, larger one] or is my .30-06
just fine for mule deer?"
Now, I don't want to offend anybody here, knowing guns are a
sensitive subject in some circles, but the reply of the editor is
still worth pondering. He wrote back: "I wouldn't do it myself,
and I don't think you need to, but if you are really bent on buying
the Blast-and-flash magnum, then nothing will change your mind,
even you have one pointed at you."
Cheers and keep shooting CAMERAS
Otel
Canon's problem is that Sony sensor, the camera bodies are state of the art but the sensor and probably software ( nikons algorithmns maybe?) is the achilles heel. If they upgrade the sensors sharpness, low noise etc and improve the jpeg output the d100 body is good enough to last quite a long time for many many users. Funny I'm a canon user but a d100 fan.
it was a good camera 7 months ago and
Nikon are dependant on their Coolpix sales for customers for their D-SLR range, ie D100, it even has Coolpix parts in it.
Canon seem to want to attract customers to their Eos range of machines and seem to be offering a better entry level with a better upgrade prospect, especially if their rumoured 3D actually arrives in a few months, than Nikon have currently.
And if the new Canon has a firmware bug, not unheard of as D100 owners know all too well ………… what then?
................... but first time buyers???
Nikon are dependant on their Coolpix sales for customers for their D-SLR range, ie D100, it even has Coolpix parts in it.
Canon seem to want to attract customers to their Eos range of machines and seem to be offering a better entry level with a better upgrade prospect, especially if their rumoured 3D actually arrives in a few months, than Nikon have currently.
And if the new Canon has a firmware bug, not unheard of as D100 owners know all too well ………… what then?
.................... and are doing a great job with Nikon too IMO.
BTW should this read, "Nikon's problem ....
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What's a photographer without a camera?
BTW should this read, "Nikon's problem ....
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What's a photographer without a camera?
...................... when Nikon had the D1x and later the H there was NOTHING else (effectively).
Canon have been consistently late bringing their product to market, but they seem to be responding and listening to their customers and their latest offering reflects this.
Nikon concentrated on the pro market class in the belief that their investment in lenses would hold them, anyone care to wonder or guess why the 70~200mm AF-S VR was announced 12 months ago, relaunched in November and suddenly shipped last month, in comparison the new DX will be in shelves this month apparently.
No I don’t like the notion one little bit that I was kept waiting for a product in an apparently deliberate move keep customers, all it has done for me is heighten my anxiety and make me feel more like a pawn rather than happy customer enjoying some great gear.
The Nikon pro world has been crying out new stable high endurance pro spec machines for a long time. I was reading a report on a boxing match recently and their nearly was a fight between the two Nikon shooters ringside trying to recharge their EN-4 batteries, the Eos 1D guys could not believe it.
That’s pretty much it, the Nikon defectors now just cannot believe the nonsense that Nikon is spoon feeding us buying the D100 was revelation into the Nikon world, in fact I’ll more than likely keep this camera but my next and subsequent purchases are definitely Canon.
What's a photographer without a camera?
Canon have been consistently late bringing their product to market, but they seem to be responding and listening to their customers and their latest offering reflects this.
Nikon concentrated on the pro market class in the belief that their investment in lenses would hold them, anyone care to wonder or guess why the 70~200mm AF-S VR was announced 12 months ago, relaunched in November and suddenly shipped last month, in comparison the new DX will be in shelves this month apparently.
No I don’t like the notion one little bit that I was kept waiting for a product in an apparently deliberate move keep customers, all it has done for me is heighten my anxiety and make me feel more like a pawn rather than happy customer enjoying some great gear.
The Nikon pro world has been crying out new stable high endurance pro spec machines for a long time. I was reading a report on a boxing match recently and their nearly was a fight between the two Nikon shooters ringside trying to recharge their EN-4 batteries, the Eos 1D guys could not believe it.
That’s pretty much it, the Nikon defectors now just cannot believe the nonsense that Nikon is spoon feeding us buying the D100 was revelation into the Nikon world, in fact I’ll more than likely keep this camera but my next and subsequent purchases are definitely Canon.
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What's a photographer without a camera?
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Gillis Danielsen
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the whole idea with the 10d redesign at canon was probably to just cut costs of production, since producing high quality electronics is not like having a button-factory, you cant just "crank up the factorys and sell em off for half the price".
i doubt nikon can even produce it that cheap without major losses... of course they will probably drop the price to about production price and make teh money on the glass and equip, but i doubt they are selling them for much less then that right now...
I think nikon has something in the making, otherwise they would not produce the whole DX-lens series etc.etc. they should have done as olympus and post a plastic packet on the PMA without any kind of specs and get everyone hooraying
i doubt nikon can even produce it that cheap without major losses... of course they will probably drop the price to about production price and make teh money on the glass and equip, but i doubt they are selling them for much less then that right now...
I think nikon has something in the making, otherwise they would not produce the whole DX-lens series etc.etc. they should have done as olympus and post a plastic packet on the PMA without any kind of specs and get everyone hooraying
All I am interested is taking great
A photographer is not a photographer without a camera and apparently 90% of forum participants think so too ………… facts are that a good button pusher, a good set builder, a good director, a good location scout will all produce better work with better equipment.
Sad fact of life that and the one that actually drives these and other forums and brand wars, now remember who was the silliest war monger of them all? And who is being asked to pay for this war?
In case you don’t know it was the Nikon/Kodak war and one that nearly brought Nikon imaging to its knees …………
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What's a photographer without a camera?
...................... you see I totally disagree here -- equipment is EVERYTHING. The photographer is simply a composer, a director, a set builder, a stalker and a button pusher.
A photographer is not a photographer without a camera and apparently 90% of forum participants think so too ………… facts are that a good button pusher, a good set builder, a good director, a good location scout will all produce better work with better equipment.
Sad fact of life that and the one that actually drives these and other forums and brand wars, now remember who was the silliest war monger of them all? And who is being asked to pay for this war?
In case you don’t know it was the Nikon/Kodak war and one that nearly brought Nikon imaging to its knees …………
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What's a photographer without a camera?
I think the dx lens series is the best idea Nikon has had in a while, if Sony isn't going to provide a full frame sensor then at least Nikon has an alternative for wide-angle for it's customer baseI think nikon has something in the making, otherwise they would not
produce the whole DX-lens series etc.etc. they should have done as
olympus and post a plastic packet on the PMA without any kind of
specs and get everyone hooraying
plus they're working on something they can control which are lenses. I can't figure out how they can make the d100 any better though without upgrading the sensor.
Sure,
Quitting Nikon is easy... I've done it a thousand times.
Seriously, the choice is ultimately yours.
But I'll tell you that I've come and gone to and from Nikon cameras in frustration but I am happy with my current Nikon equipment. I don't need them to have anymore cameras in their 'arsenal' that I can't afford than they already do. And I've learned that basing the decision of what system to go with on the flagship camera that one may never own isn't a good way to go about choosing the lucky winner of my hard earned dough.
I'll bet next year all the Canon folks will be complaining that there's no upgrade to the 1Ds. And I would bet that there won't be for a long time. I would also bet that Nikon will Annouce at least one new DSLR this year, remember, they usually don't put all their eggs in the PMA basket.
This summer and fall may be quite interesting for those who remain loyal to Nikon. But remember it's your eye not your camera that makes good photographs, what do I know though, I've only sold images I made with an Olympus Stylus Epic. Go figure.
Frits
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Peter Bendheim
Senior Member
Sorry I'm an S2 Pro user but I have lots of Nikon manual cameras...
But be grateful than when Nikon announce a new product, it usually :
is designed to last designed to work
designed to work hard
I'd hate to be a Canon D60 owner with a considerable investment that is redundant after 6 months. The D10 is an admission by Canon that the D60 was a screw-up.
Look at the design of the D1 series - designed to last.
When Nikon does release a new camera, it will be good and worth waiting for?
Do you really want to change your camera every 6 months? Are you such a brilliant photograher that you have outgrown the current Nikon range? I think not!!!!
Peter Bendheim
http://www3.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=2145
But be grateful than when Nikon announce a new product, it usually :
is designed to last designed to work
designed to work hard
I'd hate to be a Canon D60 owner with a considerable investment that is redundant after 6 months. The D10 is an admission by Canon that the D60 was a screw-up.
Look at the design of the D1 series - designed to last.
When Nikon does release a new camera, it will be good and worth waiting for?
Do you really want to change your camera every 6 months? Are you such a brilliant photograher that you have outgrown the current Nikon range? I think not!!!!
Peter Bendheim
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