the new DSLRs - anybody getting antsy?

Harris,

Ed Nazarko said:

A ferrari on a wet skid pad will do that to you. Some have had to
have the grin surgically removed after it persisted weeks later.
Let us know when your wife recovers.

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Not mine, but a friend's. Ferrari AND wife. She's loving the car - they've only had it for a bit over a month so far, and I'm gewtting weekly reports.

I'll be seeing lots of Ferraris over the next few days, as I head to Melbourne tomorrow for the first race of the F1 season. I'm staying in the Italian part of town, and will be joining the Tifosi (again) on both Saturday and Sunday nights. This is a great time of the year to pretend to be Italian in Melbourne.

Member said:

There's a point at which the weight of the glass in your bag drives
a big portion of choice, especially if you have to be able to
afford other things in your life like food or a mortgage. I've
thought that Canon has been a pace-setter in the digital SLR world
for years - but the thought of having to re-create the Nikon kit I

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I've been very impressed with the images I've seen from the D60 so far, and all indications are the the D10 should be even better.

Replacing (or replicating) the Nikon kit with a similar Canon one is not something that can be taken lightly, but with the attractive pricing on the D10 ...

And this will also force the pre-owned Canon market through the floor, which is another way to do things.

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g.
Gary Stark
[email protected]
Down under in Sydney, Oz.
CP5700, CP950, F801, FE2, Nikkormat FTN

at a recent workshop, there were a lot of canon 1ds in the hands of the class. they seemed to spend tons more time dealing with the raw images than the nikon d1x guys did - way, way more. i also thought that a lot of the jpeg samples i saw from the canon were clearly identifiable as jpeg. the nikon shooters really seemed a whole lot more indifferent to raw or jpeg than the canon shooters, and you could definitely see why, even when the images were just being run through a video projector. i couldn't see much difference in the nikon images. and there's always the 'how would i explain this to the wife" problem.

nothing slides like a ferrari. i used to on-track instruct for ferarri club, and for their national events. got to drive some really sweet cars that I can't even afford to imagine owning, courtesy of the students. in some other forum, i'll tell you about the experimental ferrari factory f40 that i destroyed at one of club's national events - thankfully not my fault, it melted the perspex back window and caught fire while i was driving it giving charity rides...i kept my scorched helmet to remember it by. only funny after the fact. glad it wasn't my million dollars.

GaryStark said:

Ed Nazarko said:

A ferrari on a wet skid pad will do that to you. Some have had to
have the grin surgically removed after it persisted weeks later.
Let us know when your wife recovers.

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Not mine, but a friend's. Ferrari AND wife. She's loving the car -
they've only had it for a bit over a month so far, and I'm gewtting
weekly reports.

I'll be seeing lots of Ferraris over the next few days, as I head
to Melbourne tomorrow for the first race of the F1 season. I'm
staying in the Italian part of town, and will be joining the Tifosi
(again) on both Saturday and Sunday nights. This is a great time of
the year to pretend to be Italian in Melbourne.

Gary Stark137586 said:

There's a point at which the weight of the glass in your bag drives
a big portion of choice, especially if you have to be able to
afford other things in your life like food or a mortgage. I've
thought that Canon has been a pace-setter in the digital SLR world
for years - but the thought of having to re-create the Nikon kit I

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I've been very impressed with the images I've seen from the D60 so
far, and all indications are the the D10 should be even better.

Replacing (or replicating) the Nikon kit with a similar Canon one
is not something that can be taken lightly, but with the attractive
pricing on the D10 ...

And this will also force the pre-owned Canon market through the
floor, which is another way to do things.

--
g.
Gary Stark
[email protected]
Down under in Sydney, Oz.
CP5700, CP950, F801, FE2, Nikkormat FTN

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Ed,

Member said:

at a recent workshop, there were a lot of canon 1ds in the hands of
the class. they seemed to spend tons more time dealing with the
raw images than the nikon d1x guys did - way, way more. i also
thought that a lot of the jpeg samples i saw from the canon were
clearly identifiable as jpeg. the nikon shooters really seemed a

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Very interesting.

The Canon images that I've seen were commercial pro shots, and tiff.

Very big files, and very nice images.

The experimentation I've been doing between raw and jpg tells me that I have more scope to play with raw, but in terms of real world shooting, the (lack of) speed in using raw is going to preclude me from using it as my mainstay for the moment. Certainly, fine jpg seems more than adequate for most of my needs.

Member said:

difference in the nikon images. and there's always the 'how would
i explain this to the wife" problem.

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Yeah ....

Member said:

the experimental ferrari factory f40 that i destroyed at one of
club's national events - thankfully not my fault, it melted the

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Ouch. That must have been painful to see.

A couple of years ago I was at Monza for the GP, and had the experience of seeing Barri's car, along with (IIRC) DC's and one other all come seriously adrift just a couple of hundred meters in front of where I was sitting.

While I got some pix, the 950 wasn't really up to the task; that's where I'm hoping the 5700 will shine this weekend.

Trivia time: the Ferrari museum in Maranello has just one car in it that is not a Ferrari. Do you know what make it is?

--
g.
Gary Stark
[email protected]
Down under in Sydney, Oz.
CP5700, CP950, F801, FE2, Nikkormat FTN

Yikes I fail the Tifosi test! What's the one non-ferrari? A guess - is it a Fiat? I seem to remember Enzo started out racing Fiats or Alfas, can't remember which.

I went to the Malaysian race two years running when I lived in Singapore, and go to the Montreal race every other year, before I was in Singapore, and since returning to the US. Wish they let you get closer, generally - the security in Malaysia was bad and I got a lot of trackside time photography during practice sessions. Raceday, though, no go.

Remember to use the half-press of the shutter, to reduce the shutter lag. I'm still working to make that second nature - the shutter lag really frustrates me, mostly because I'm not used to it.

What's the 24 hour sedan race in Oz, on the track that seems to go up and down a mountain? Bathhurst? I watch it on TV every year, and want to run it before I lose my reflexes. Looks like a hair-raising track.

If you're shooting at a track event, and the grass is clipped short, try shooting UNDER the bottom of the lowest armco barrier. It's a great angle, makes the cars look like sharks. Just have a spotter to tell you when to roll or run away...

GaryStark said:

Gary Stark137586 said:

at a recent workshop, there were a lot of canon 1ds in the hands of
the class. they seemed to spend tons more time dealing with the
raw images than the nikon d1x guys did - way, way more. i also
thought that a lot of the jpeg samples i saw from the canon were
clearly identifiable as jpeg. the nikon shooters really seemed a

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Very interesting.

The Canon images that I've seen were commercial pro shots, and tiff.

Very big files, and very nice images.

The experimentation I've been doing between raw and jpg tells me
that I have more scope to play with raw, but in terms of real world
shooting, the (lack of) speed in using raw is going to preclude me
from using it as my mainstay for the moment. Certainly, fine jpg
seems more than adequate for most of my needs.

Gary Stark137586 said:

difference in the nikon images. and there's always the 'how would
i explain this to the wife" problem.

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Yeah ....

Gary Stark137586 said:

the experimental ferrari factory f40 that i destroyed at one of
club's national events - thankfully not my fault, it melted the

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Ouch. That must have been painful to see.

A couple of years ago I was at Monza for the GP, and had the
experience of seeing Barri's car, along with (IIRC) DC's and one
other all come seriously adrift just a couple of hundred meters in
front of where I was sitting.

While I got some pix, the 950 wasn't really up to the task; that's
where I'm hoping the 5700 will shine this weekend.

Trivia time: the Ferrari museum in Maranello has just one car in it
that is not a Ferrari. Do you know what make it is?

--
g.
Gary Stark
[email protected]
Down under in Sydney, Oz.
CP5700, CP950, F801, FE2, Nikkormat FTN

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Ed,

Ed Nazarko said:

Yikes I fail the Tifosi test! What's the one non-ferrari? A guess

• is it a Fiat? I seem to remember Enzo started out racing Fiats

or Alfas, can't remember which.

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Enzo started out driving Alfas, and the car in question is his old Alfa Bimotore.
Note that the Alfa Museo Historico in Arese contains no Ferraris.

Member said:

I went to the Malaysian race two years running when I lived in
Singapore, and go to the Montreal race every other year, before I
was in Singapore, and since returning to the US. Wish they let you

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You could also wander to Indy in September ...

Member said:

get closer, generally - the security in Malaysia was bad and I got
a lot of trackside time photography during practice sessions.

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It's very tight here too. I need to talk with my friend and get him to get me some pit access passes. He's able to do that, I suspect.

Member said:

Remember to use the half-press of the shutter, to reduce the
shutter lag. I'm still working to make that second nature - the

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I almost always do, but won't be this weekend. I'll be in the stand opposite the pit exit, and it'll mostly be pre-focussed; I shouldn't need to.

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What's the 24 hour sedan race in Oz, on the track that seems to go

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The 24 hour is new, and only had its first run last year. Yes, it's Bathhurst, and it's an awesome circuit, but not as pretty as Philip Island in Victoria, where they have the bike races.

The race you're probably thinking of though is the Bathhurst 1000, which is a 1000(!) Km race. Bathhurst now hosts both of these, and another friend was driving an MR2 in the inaugural 24 hour last year. He hated it with such a vengance that he can't wait till this year's event!

Member said:

up and down a mountain? Bathhurst? I watch it on TV every year,
and want to run it before I lose my reflexes. Looks like a
hair-raising track.

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Especially over Skyline, yes. From what you've said, I'd expect that you have a full race license. I can make some discreet enquiries if you like. I have no idea of the requirements, but can probably find out.

Member said:

If you're shooting at a track event, and the grass is clipped
short, try shooting UNDER the bottom of the lowest armco barrier.
It's a great angle, makes the cars look like sharks. Just have a
spotter to tell you when to roll or run away...

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At most circuits, this is becoming more and more difficult to do. I need to go out to Eastern Creek on a race day and have a bit of fun with the camera.

--
g.
Gary Stark
[email protected]
Down under in Sydney, Oz.
CP5700, CP950, F801, FE2, Nikkormat FTN

ever made or so the hype was at the time. The ME Super is 135mm wide (the DSLR is almost 1/2 inch smaller) 84mm high, same as the DSLR and 53mm deep (Thick) 10mm thinner than the DSLR, I hope it'f batteries, but I know it's not. The add asys without battery. I don't mind, I just hope I can afford one and that it isn't noisy or have any bad manners. It's the camera that I have been waiting for, my lenses will be back in business!

Ed Rotberg said:

Did you see the specs on the size of the *ist? I quote from Phil's
news story: "Encased in the world's smallest in the 35mm autofocus
SLR category , this new SLR..."

and: "Measuring only 122mm wide, 84mm high and 63.5mm thick (4.8 x
3.3 x 2.5 inches) and weighing a mere 335 grams (11.8 oz.), the new
*ist features the world's smallest in the 35mm autofocus SLR
market. All controls are functionally positioned on the top and
back panels for maximum ease of operation and accessibility."

Here is the link:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/03021807pentax-ist.asp

Maybe it wouldn't be such a big thing to tote around.

= Ed =

Staggerlee43 said:

I'm happy to wait on awhile - say for a new version of an S602 with
a new higher resolution CCD with extended tonal range, and video
@30 FPS for $600!

DSLRs seem to have their advantages but I'm afraid at this point it
would be my second camera. I just love the small size of my 5700
and the ability to shoot digital video with the flip of a switch.
I've been toting around film SLRs forever. They're heavy, annoying
beasts. I love an all in one camera that gives me a great picture,
computerized filing, the ability to manipulate in Photoshop (which
is as important as anything DSLRs bring to the table) and no film
costs.

The only things that keep the 5700 from being close to the perfect
camera are inconsistent flash issues and some difficulty figuring
out (or getting) manual focus. And again - 30FPS VGA like the Fuji
would be great.

Richard

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'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'

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Wow, I have NEVER used the video function on any of my digicams. I have a nice Sony digital video for that. I thought of using it for the implosion of our reverfront stadium but I decided to set up the digivideo on a tripod and shoot at one frame per second stills. In the end, my 10 year old began throwing up at 4am and I stayed home with him. I can live with that.

VIDEO has never been a deciding factor on any digital camera for me. It has to work fast and take good photos. The fuji 4900 took good fotos but was not fast. I crave the superior lenses and large apateurs that come with them AND... I crave the manual focusing ring and the "one touch" zoom of my lenses. I sure hope it is a quality camera. I hope it is on an alloy frame and not all plastic. Pentax used to make a great little camera but moved on to auto-plastic junk, and nearly went out of the camera business. I hope they have learned a lesson and come loaded for Nikon (I mean bear)
Cheers!

Ed Rotberg said:

That's sufficient reason. I believe that the DSLR's do not take
video. For my part, I used the video feature of my 995 one time
when I first got the camera. Since then I've never even thought
about it.

Different strokes & all... ;-)

= Ed =

Staggerlee43 said:

Richard

Ed Rotberg said:

Did you see the specs on the size of the *ist? I quote from Phil's
news story: "Encased in the world's smallest in the 35mm autofocus
SLR category , this new SLR..."

and: "Measuring only 122mm wide, 84mm high and 63.5mm thick (4.8 x
3.3 x 2.5 inches) and weighing a mere 335 grams (11.8 oz.), the new
*ist features the world's smallest in the 35mm autofocus SLR
market. All controls are functionally positioned on the top and
back panels for maximum ease of operation and accessibility."

Here is the link:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/03021807pentax-ist.asp

Maybe it wouldn't be such a big thing to tote around.

= Ed =

Staggerlee43 said:

I'm happy to wait on awhile - say for a new version of an S602 with
a new higher resolution CCD with extended tonal range, and video
@30 FPS for $600!

DSLRs seem to have their advantages but I'm afraid at this point it
would be my second camera. I just love the small size of my 5700
and the ability to shoot digital video with the flip of a switch.
I've been toting around film SLRs forever. They're heavy, annoying
beasts. I love an all in one camera that gives me a great picture,
computerized filing, the ability to manipulate in Photoshop (which
is as important as anything DSLRs bring to the table) and no film
costs.

The only things that keep the 5700 from being close to the perfect
camera are inconsistent flash issues and some difficulty figuring
out (or getting) manual focus. And again - 30FPS VGA like the Fuji
would be great.

Richard

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= Ed Rotberg =

'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'

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'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'

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Michael,

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I agree...put the DSLR processing electronics in the 5700 and you will have a camera that is better (IMHO) than a DSLR.

Ron T

Backdoctor said:

a good DSLR, but I love the zoom on my 5700. Where can you get 8x
on one lens like that. I would have to carry two to three lens's to
make up for it, but I sure would like the other aspects of some of
the dlsr's. Faster continuous shooting times with larger buffers.
Taking photos at the ballgame with 3fps is great, but I'd like more
photos

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Have you guys seen a true image from Fuji's honeycomb sensor? Many prople are skeptical about the sensor but I can say, NONE of my cameras performe in low light like the Fuji S602pro and I'm sure the S2 is even better. If they made it in a Pentax mount I'd be standing in line for one. All my lenses are older. I love them and they work well half are Vivitar series ONE and the others are Pentax brand. All are good glass. I could never hope to get a good price to make it worth selling mine and starting over. So I'll wait and see what happens
Thanks!

Oh and like I was tellong Jarrell the other day, back to square one for mackro. The 5700 will be a tough act to follow for it's ability to mackro and night skyline photos. I'd have to keep it for those.

D.R. Barnhart said:

Jarrell Conley said:

I do not own any Nikon lenses, so making a move to the Canon D10
would be no more painful than buying a D100. There will always be
those that stay in the prosumer lineup, but as the price of the
dslr models drop toward the $1000 U.S. mark there will be less of
them (us). If I do go with a dslr, I'd keep my 990...
Jarrell
How To Post Pictures Here!
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1007&message=4033727

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I'm right behind you! I'd been saving my pennies for a Fuji S2 but
this new Canon has got me all confused.

Like you, I'd still want to have a "point-n-shoot" but I think I'd
sell my 5700 and maybe buy one of the new "SQ"[uirrelly looking]
cameras. (That's what the "SQ" stands for right?)

I promise, though, you'll never see a post from me asking, "Which
camera should I buy?" (LOL)

D.R.Barnhart

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Ed Nazarko said:

There's a point at which the weight of the glass in your bag drives
a big portion of choice, especially if you have to be able to
afford other things in your life like food or a mortgage. I've
thought that Canon has been a pace-setter in the digital SLR world
for years - but the thought of having to re-create the Nikon kit I
currently have has made me willing to wait for Nikon to catch up.
And, I generally like the look of the images that the Nikon lenses
produce, to the extent that you can see a difference.

GaryStark said:

Backdoctor said:

a good DSLR, but I love the zoom on my 5700. Where can you get 8x
on one lens like that. I would have to carry two to three lens's to
make up for it, but I sure would like the other aspects of some of
the dlsr's. Faster continuous shooting times with larger buffers.

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Faster continuous shooting would be very nice, along with shorter
blackout times between exposures.

I might need to think about rigging up a rangefinder frame
(something like on my old speedgraphic) to allow me to follow
movement at those times that the 5700 prevents it. I had some minor
issues last Sunday tracking a friend's F355 as he took it around a
new skidpan that opened in Sydney last week.
It's not too often that one gets a chance to see a Ferrari at "play"



That's his wife with the ear-to-ear grin on her face.

--
g.
Gary Stark
[email protected]
Down under in Sydney, Oz.
CP5700, CP950, F801, FE2, Nikkormat FTN

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So that I can have one of those?

If we're fantasizing - I'd like a 5700 with DSLR guts, and a 5720, that takes the zoom range down to at least a 20mm equivalent on the bottom end, and gives up top end of the zoom range. I'd sling one of each on my bod, and off I'd go.

My back would be so happy.

Ron T said:

Ron T

Backdoctor said:

a good DSLR, but I love the zoom on my 5700. Where can you get 8x
on one lens like that. I would have to carry two to three lens's to
make up for it, but I sure would like the other aspects of some of
the dlsr's. Faster continuous shooting times with larger buffers.
Taking photos at the ballgame with 3fps is great, but I'd like more
photos

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Ron T said:

Ron T

Backdoctor said:

a good DSLR, but I love the zoom on my 5700. Where can you get 8x
on one lens like that. I would have to carry two to three lens's to
make up for it, but I sure would like the other aspects of some of
the dlsr's. Faster continuous shooting times with larger buffers.
Taking photos at the ballgame with 3fps is great, but I'd like more
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With one exception, a f/2.8 aperture at the 280mm end. :-(

--
Karen

...but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need.

http://www.e-designarts.com
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don't you run out of space for your hands at some point as cameras get smaller? I had a rollei 35 for a little while, and a half-frame camera, and could never get comfortable holding them. And my hands aren't all that big - i mean, i can't (sadly) palm a basketball.

Sometimes the digicams feel like they're too small. Toy cameras. It really took some time to get used to the "missing third" of the 5700, and it feels so much better now that I put the battery pack on it. what about guys who are really big? (image: Shaq with a 5700...)

Austin316 said:

Ed Rotberg said:

Did you see the specs on the size of the *ist? I quote from Phil's
news story: "Encased in the world's smallest in the 35mm autofocus
SLR category , this new SLR..."

and: "Measuring only 122mm wide, 84mm high and 63.5mm thick (4.8 x
3.3 x 2.5 inches) and weighing a mere 335 grams (11.8 oz.), the new
*ist features the world's smallest in the 35mm autofocus SLR
market. All controls are functionally positioned on the top and
back panels for maximum ease of operation and accessibility."

Here is the link:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/03021807pentax-ist.asp

Maybe it wouldn't be such a big thing to tote around.

= Ed =

Staggerlee43 said:

I'm happy to wait on awhile - say for a new version of an S602 with
a new higher resolution CCD with extended tonal range, and video
@30 FPS for $600!

DSLRs seem to have their advantages but I'm afraid at this point it
would be my second camera. I just love the small size of my 5700
and the ability to shoot digital video with the flip of a switch.
I've been toting around film SLRs forever. They're heavy, annoying
beasts. I love an all in one camera that gives me a great picture,
computerized filing, the ability to manipulate in Photoshop (which
is as important as anything DSLRs bring to the table) and no film
costs.

The only things that keep the 5700 from being close to the perfect
camera are inconsistent flash issues and some difficulty figuring
out (or getting) manual focus. And again - 30FPS VGA like the Fuji
would be great.

Richard

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'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'

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Michael,

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Austin,

Yes, I remember the ME Super very well and I still have my MX, & ME areound somehwere, though they were largely displaced by my PZ-1.

I'm with you on those desires also. My biggest hope is that it will have good, low noise images. My biggest worry is the ISO range since I hav not seen any data on that yet at all. We'll just have to wait and see. The good news is that it is currently scheduled to be available before my trip to Ireland/Scotland late this summer. Hopefully I'll have one in my hot little hands by then

= Ed=

Austin316 said:

Ed Rotberg said:

Did you see the specs on the size of the *ist? I quote from Phil's
news story: "Encased in the world's smallest in the 35mm autofocus
SLR category , this new SLR..."

and: "Measuring only 122mm wide, 84mm high and 63.5mm thick (4.8 x
3.3 x 2.5 inches) and weighing a mere 335 grams (11.8 oz.), the new
*ist features the world's smallest in the 35mm autofocus SLR
market. All controls are functionally positioned on the top and
back panels for maximum ease of operation and accessibility."

Here is the link:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/03021807pentax-ist.asp

Maybe it wouldn't be such a big thing to tote around.

= Ed =

Staggerlee43 said:

I'm happy to wait on awhile - say for a new version of an S602 with
a new higher resolution CCD with extended tonal range, and video
@30 FPS for $600!

DSLRs seem to have their advantages but I'm afraid at this point it
would be my second camera. I just love the small size of my 5700
and the ability to shoot digital video with the flip of a switch.
I've been toting around film SLRs forever. They're heavy, annoying
beasts. I love an all in one camera that gives me a great picture,
computerized filing, the ability to manipulate in Photoshop (which
is as important as anything DSLRs bring to the table) and no film
costs.

The only things that keep the 5700 from being close to the perfect
camera are inconsistent flash issues and some difficulty figuring
out (or getting) manual focus. And again - 30FPS VGA like the Fuji
would be great.

Richard

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'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'

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'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'