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... how good is it when used in sandy desert conditions? I heard of photog having had to trash their cameras after using it in the first Gulf war becasue of the fine sand that got into every nook and crannies of the camera!

Anyone had any recent use of the camera in those situations? Do I have to tape the possible 'orifices' in my camera to prevent from sand/dust getting into my CCD?

Depending on the Iraqi situation, i might be there with my 1D.

Would appreciate help in this matter. Thanks!

taufiq
 
the CCD in the 1D is like a dust magnet. recommendation...remove lenses as little as possible.
mine is in need of a clean.
taufiq said:
... how good is it when used in sandy desert conditions? I heard of
photog having had to trash their cameras after using it in the
first Gulf war becasue of the fine sand that got into every nook
and crannies of the camera!

Anyone had any recent use of the camera in those situations? Do I
have to tape the possible 'orifices' in my camera to prevent from
sand/dust getting into my CCD?

Depending on the Iraqi situation, i might be there with my 1D.

Would appreciate help in this matter. Thanks!

taufiq
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I was in Desert Shield & Storm, starting out in Dhahran, up to Rafha, and ultimately into Irag. My squad chipped in for a throw-away 35mm camera that we replaced twice.

I can tell you that the Middle East is not friendly to anything electronic. Especially to a piece of equipment that attracts dust! LOL!

It's not the beach sand crystals that you have to worry about - unless you're caught in a sandstorm. It's the dust-like "sand" that you'll love to hate. It has the consistency, no joke, of talcum powder and is extremely coarse. I sweat that s#!t out of my pores for weeks after getting back.

My unit had turret-mounted weapons on our HUMV's, and we had to rip the seals out of the turrets after a month to get them to turn because the sand got into the bearing wells, congeled into clay, and froze them up.

Oh, and if you're anywhere near the coast, you'll get to deal with the salt that gets all over everything when the sea breezes blow inland. We had to breakdown our weapons daily to control the rust & corrosion caused by salt-laden water vapor inside of barrels, receivers, & magazines.

Have Fun!

JTGB
Just You Average Photo Enthusiast
taufiq said:
... how good is it when used in sandy desert conditions? I heard of
photog having had to trash their cameras after using it in the
first Gulf war becasue of the fine sand that got into every nook
and crannies of the camera!

Anyone had any recent use of the camera in those situations? Do I
have to tape the possible 'orifices' in my camera to prevent from
sand/dust getting into my CCD?

Depending on the Iraqi situation, i might be there with my 1D.

Would appreciate help in this matter. Thanks!

taufiq
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The camera is only half the equation. The 16-35L, 24-70L, 70-200L IS, and a few of the BIG lenses are sealed. And, as others have suggested, don't change lenses outside if you don't have to!
KP
taufiq said:
... how good is it when used in sandy desert conditions? I heard of
photog having had to trash their cameras after using it in the
first Gulf war becasue of the fine sand that got into every nook
and crannies of the camera!

Anyone had any recent use of the camera in those situations? Do I
have to tape the possible 'orifices' in my camera to prevent from
sand/dust getting into my CCD?

Depending on the Iraqi situation, i might be there with my 1D.

Would appreciate help in this matter. Thanks!

taufiq
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taufiq said:
Depending on the Iraqi situation, i might be there with my 1D.
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There will probably be lots of other 1D cameras there. It's as well-sealed as any 35mm body (other than underwater cameras), but the desert can be harsh. If you're in a lot of blowing sand or dust, yes, it may get trashed, along with every other camera out there. Use care when changing lenses, especially.

Are you a working pro? You should be covered for loss of your equipment from environmental conditions. If you aren't a working pro, you can always get a rider on your homeowner or renter policy.

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Brian Kennedy said:
taufiq said:
Depending on the Iraqi situation, i might be there with my 1D.
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There will probably be lots of other 1D cameras there. It's as
well-sealed as any 35mm body (other than underwater cameras), but
the desert can be harsh. If you're in a lot of blowing sand or
dust, yes, it may get trashed, along with every other camera out
there. Use care when changing lenses, especially.

Are you a working pro? You should be covered for loss of your
equipment from environmental conditions. If you aren't a working
pro, you can always get a rider on your homeowner or renter policy.

--
Brian Kennedy
http://www.briankennedy.net/
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Thank you for everyone's reply. Keep them coming in. Just curious to know what the pro expereinces are like. I have heard abt the very fine quality of the sand and that you do still have sand coming out off you after weeks!!

the options for me now are
1) getting an underwater casing,

2) taping the camera esp possible entry sites with clear tape (leaving the WB sensor) and some room for dials

3) leaving it as it is, relying upon the camera's own gasketing/sealing and not taking off the lens outdoors. (the only problem with this is that my standard lens is only a 24-85 USM, and I wonder whether the sand will get into the interior of camera from the seams of the lens. I know it is not gasketed unlike the 24-70L - dream lens, if only I sh*t money! - so i donno how this lens will cope. Mind you this lens has been to the deserts in south Afghanistan and it coped OK)

What do you guys think?

FYI, I am a medical personal for an NGO so depending on the situation, I most prolly be in the Jordan/Iraq border and depending on how long the war/bombing is, might go into Iraq. I do love phptography and do hope to get good images while I am there. Just hope my 1D survives the trip!!

Thanks

taufiq
 
I posted a similar thread not long ago. Thank you for everyone's opinions

the options for me now are
1) getting an underwater casing,

2) taping the camera esp possible entry sites with clear tape
(leaving the WB sensor) and some room for dials

3) leaving it as it is, relying upon the camera's own
gasketing/sealing and not taking off the lens outdoors. (the only
problem with this is that my standard lens is only a 24-85 USM, and
I wonder whether the sand will get into the interior of camera from
the seams of the lens.

What do you guys think?

Also anyone had any esperience with the sand/dust sealing in 24-70L or other sealed lenses?

FYI, I am a medical personal for an NGO so depending on the
situation, I most prolly be in the Jordan/Iraq border and depending
on how long the war/bombing is, might go into Iraq. I do love
phptography and do hope to get good images while I am there. Just
hope my 1D survives the trip!!

Thanks for your opinions!

taufiq
 
Taufiq,

Best of luck to you & thank you for serving our country and the rest of the world - even if they think we should just let Saddam keep making Anthrax & building nukes under our noses.

If you're in a field unit & you hold your 1D near and dear to your heart, do yourself a huge favor & leave it at home. Get a decent film camera and throw it away when it gets trashed.

You have to change the batteries & lenses sooner or later, and it's not going to be pretty. Plus, there's going to be times when your stuff is unsecure, and you're going to hate yourself if it gets stolen.

What good is a camera in an underwater case when the dust sticks to everything? And there's no way in hell you're going to keep the dust out by putting tape on the outside of the body.

Seals? NOGO unless they're water proof - which they're not.

At the very least, keep your camera, and anything else you care about in plastic bags. If you need to change a lens, but the camera inside a large clean plastic bag & make the switch inside the bag. Then keep the unused lens inside the bag until you're ready to switch back.

JTGB
Just Your Average Photo Enthusiast
taufiq said:
I posted a similar thread not long ago. Thank you for everyone's
opinions

the options for me now are
1) getting an underwater casing,

2) taping the camera esp possible entry sites with clear tape
(leaving the WB sensor) and some room for dials

3) leaving it as it is, relying upon the camera's own
gasketing/sealing and not taking off the lens outdoors. (the only
problem with this is that my standard lens is only a 24-85 USM, and
I wonder whether the sand will get into the interior of camera from
the seams of the lens.

What do you guys think?

Also anyone had any esperience with the sand/dust sealing in 24-70L
or other sealed lenses?

FYI, I am a medical personal for an NGO so depending on the
situation, I most prolly be in the Jordan/Iraq border and depending
on how long the war/bombing is, might go into Iraq. I do love
phptography and do hope to get good images while I am there. Just
hope my 1D survives the trip!!

Thanks for your opinions!

taufiq
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