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S50 news have been out for two days, yet there's no mention of it on this website. Other sites have been informing of it in spite of their own Canon embargos. How is that possible? Respecting embargo is one thing, acting like Canon's own marketing department and ignoring reality another. It only goes to show who's in cahoot with who, and it'd be wise to take that into consideration next time you read a "Highly Recomended" rating on this site. I have been questioning Askey's ratings for quite some time, but this really shows who he's working for.

Regarding Canon: what the hell is the deal with S50? How stupid do they think people are? Reusing the same old camera with the occaional change of colors and marketing it each time as a different model.

As if the whole S45 scam wasn't bad enough.......now this? Sure, there will be morons cancelling their S45 orders and returning those they already bought. But surely most of the picturetaking population can't be that gullable and easily manipulated. What Canon is doing is insulting and they should not get away with it.
 
Hi,

"Regarding Canon: what the hell is the deal with S50? How stupid do
they think people are? Reusing the same old camera with the
occaional change of colors and marketing it each time as a
different model."

Have you actually tried the S45, I had an S30 and recently upgraded to the S45 and there is a big difference, keep your uninformed comments to yourself.
Pete Miller said:
S50 news have been out for two days, yet there's no mention of it
on this website. Other sites have been informing of it in spite of
their own Canon embargos. How is that possible? Respecting embargo
is one thing, acting like Canon's own marketing department and
ignoring reality another. It only goes to show who's in cahoot with
who, and it'd be wise to take that into consideration next time you
read a "Highly Recomended" rating on this site. I have been
questioning Askey's ratings for quite some time, but this really
shows who he's working for.

Regarding Canon: what the hell is the deal with S50? How stupid do
they think people are? Reusing the same old camera with the
occaional change of colors and marketing it each time as a
different model.

As if the whole S45 scam wasn't bad enough.......now this? Sure,
there will be morons cancelling their S45 orders and returning
those they already bought. But surely most of the picturetaking
population can't be that gullable and easily manipulated. What
Canon is doing is insulting and they should not get away with it.
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yeah, i shouldnt trust phil at all. i mean, its just so evident that the g3 is a poor performer in reality. and those test shots for all canon products.. all fake. they were probably taken with that twenty megapixel fuji back that hasnt come out yet. i mean, seriously. this whole site is a fraud. :)
Neil V said:
"Regarding Canon: what the hell is the deal with S50? How stupid do
they think people are? Reusing the same old camera with the
occaional change of colors and marketing it each time as a
different model."

Have you actually tried the S45, I had an S30 and recently upgraded
to the S45 and there is a big difference, keep your uninformed
comments to yourself.
Pete Miller said:
S50 news have been out for two days, yet there's no mention of it
on this website. Other sites have been informing of it in spite of
their own Canon embargos. How is that possible? Respecting embargo
is one thing, acting like Canon's own marketing department and
ignoring reality another. It only goes to show who's in cahoot with
who, and it'd be wise to take that into consideration next time you
read a "Highly Recomended" rating on this site. I have been
questioning Askey's ratings for quite some time, but this really
shows who he's working for.

Regarding Canon: what the hell is the deal with S50? How stupid do
they think people are? Reusing the same old camera with the
occaional change of colors and marketing it each time as a
different model.

As if the whole S45 scam wasn't bad enough.......now this? Sure,
there will be morons cancelling their S45 orders and returning
those they already bought. But surely most of the picturetaking
population can't be that gullable and easily manipulated. What
Canon is doing is insulting and they should not get away with it.
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christofurry

http://www.photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=523846
 
christofurry said:
Neil V said:
"Regarding Canon: what the hell is the deal with S50? How stupid do
they think people are? Reusing the same old camera with the
occaional change of colors and marketing it each time as a
different model."

Have you actually tried the S45, I had an S30 and recently upgraded
to the S45 and there is a big difference, keep your uninformed
comments to yourself.
Pete Miller said:
S50 news have been out for two days, yet there's no mention of it
on this website. Other sites have been informing of it in spite of
their own Canon embargos. How is that possible? Respecting embargo
is one thing, acting like Canon's own marketing department and
ignoring reality another. It only goes to show who's in cahoot with
who, and it'd be wise to take that into consideration next time you
read a "Highly Recomended" rating on this site. I have been
questioning Askey's ratings for quite some time, but this really
shows who he's working for.

Regarding Canon: what the hell is the deal with S50? How stupid do
they think people are? Reusing the same old camera with the
occaional change of colors and marketing it each time as a
different model.

As if the whole S45 scam wasn't bad enough.......now this? Sure,
there will be morons cancelling their S45 orders and returning
those they already bought. But surely most of the picturetaking
population can't be that gullable and easily manipulated. What
Canon is doing is insulting and they should not get away with it.
Click to expand...
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christofurry

http://www.photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=523846
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Neil has picked up on something here that we all missed. A grand conspiracy to get us to buy the latest and greatest, all this between a couple of guys running a web site and the international business community, mostly Canon Int. Yeah, I've been so blind to this for so long. It's just like computers, buy it and it's old technology almost instantly, ever wonder why? I think we all know now. This conspiracy is on the same scale as the government trying to make us all believe that man has actually landed on the moon, give me a break. How about the JFK assaination that was a government plot to put Johnson in power to prolong the Vietnam war. Now this website is doing it to us, and we are willing victims......

I think I will go take a few pictures this fabulous sunset, a product of global warming of couse. Those evil business people.
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Boy it's hard to hold this thing still. Jitter.
 
Pete Miller said:
S50 news have been out for two days, yet there's no mention of it
on this website. Other sites have been informing of it in spite of
their own Canon embargos. How is that possible? Respecting embargo
is one thing, acting like Canon's own marketing department and
ignoring reality another. It only goes to show who's in cahoot with
who, and it'd be wise to take that into consideration next time you
read a "Highly Recomended" rating on this site. I have been
questioning Askey's ratings for quite some time, but this really
shows who he's working for.

Regarding Canon: what the hell is the deal with S50? How stupid do
they think people are? Reusing the same old camera with the
occaional change of colors and marketing it each time as a
different model.

As if the whole S45 scam wasn't bad enough.......now this? Sure,
there will be morons cancelling their S45 orders and returning
those they already bought. But surely most of the picturetaking
population can't be that gullable and easily manipulated. What
Canon is doing is insulting and they should not get away with it.
Click to expand...
I am quite sure there is a Non-Disclosure Agreement involved between Canon UK and Phil, as it is with many others out there.
 
Let me be sure I understand you here. You are making the claim that Phil, by honoring an agreement, has proven himself to be untrustworthy. Now if he broke the agreement that would make him a trustworthy individual in your eyes. Ok fess up. You work for dubya don't you.
Pete Miller said:
S50 news have been out for two days, yet there's no mention of it
on this website. Other sites have been informing of it in spite of
their own Canon embargos. How is that possible? Respecting embargo
is one thing, acting like Canon's own marketing department and
ignoring reality another. It only goes to show who's in cahoot with
who, and it'd be wise to take that into consideration next time you
read a "Highly Recomended" rating on this site. I have been
questioning Askey's ratings for quite some time, but this really
shows who he's working for.

Regarding Canon: what the hell is the deal with S50? How stupid do
they think people are? Reusing the same old camera with the
occaional change of colors and marketing it each time as a
different model.

As if the whole S45 scam wasn't bad enough.......now this? Sure,
there will be morons cancelling their S45 orders and returning
those they already bought. But surely most of the picturetaking
population can't be that gullable and easily manipulated. What
Canon is doing is insulting and they should not get away with it.
Click to expand...
--
John
 
Pete Miller said:
S50 news have been out for two days, yet there's no mention of it
on this website. Other sites have been informing of it in spite of
their own Canon embargos. How is that possible? Respecting embargo
is one thing, acting like Canon's own marketing department and
ignoring reality another. It only goes to show who's in cahoot with
who, and it'd be wise to take that into consideration next time you
read a "Highly Recomended" rating on this site. I have been
questioning Askey's ratings for quite some time, but this really
shows who he's working for.

Regarding Canon: what the hell is the deal with S50? How stupid do
they think people are? Reusing the same old camera with the
occaional change of colors and marketing it each time as a
different model.

As if the whole S45 scam wasn't bad enough.......now this? Sure,
there will be morons cancelling their S45 orders and returning
those they already bought. But surely most of the picturetaking
population can't be that gullable and easily manipulated. What
Canon is doing is insulting and they should not get away with it.
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It sounds to me like Pete has had an S45 for about 16 days and can't return it.

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Just how do you propose to prove that it is a real sunset and not created in Photoshop?
Jitter said:
I think I will go take a few pictures this fabulous sunset, a
product of global warming of couse. Those evil business people.
--
Boy it's hard to hold this thing still. Jitter.
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yah, but as Askey himself explained, his agreement has a clause that once the information is part of the public domain (for whatever reason), he is no longer bound by the agreement.

and as you can see...

http://www.digitalkamera.de/Info/News/16/82.htm

It is out in the open... he's just a little slow, that's all..... It’s quite evident he has trouble staying on top of all the news....
AdamW said:
Pete Miller said:
S50 news have been out for two days, yet there's no mention of it
on this website. Other sites have been informing of it in spite of
their own Canon embargos. How is that possible? Respecting embargo
is one thing, acting like Canon's own marketing department and
ignoring reality another. It only goes to show who's in cahoot with
who, and it'd be wise to take that into consideration next time you
read a "Highly Recomended" rating on this site. I have been
questioning Askey's ratings for quite some time, but this really
shows who he's working for.

Regarding Canon: what the hell is the deal with S50? How stupid do
they think people are? Reusing the same old camera with the
occaional change of colors and marketing it each time as a
different model.

As if the whole S45 scam wasn't bad enough.......now this? Sure,
there will be morons cancelling their S45 orders and returning
those they already bought. But surely most of the picturetaking
population can't be that gullable and easily manipulated. What
Canon is doing is insulting and they should not get away with it.
Click to expand...
I am quite sure there is a Non-Disclosure Agreement involved
between Canon UK and Phil, as it is with many others out there.
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The point is that he could have acknowledged that it has been revealed on the Internet and try to compile the leaked information. That would have been the informative thing to do. Jut the way other, more reputable web sites have done it, without disclosing anything they have been directly provided by Canon. The jig is out, so pretending it isn't is just stupid. Askey's aproach reduces this site to the manufacturers' press release outlet.

Frankly dpreview has traditionally been the last one to anounce things (FinePix F700 case in point) and always far behind the others with its camera reviews. Not to mention the quality of the reviews. Imaging-resource and Steve's Digicams are a lot better. I have no appreciation for Askey's laboratory test shots, as they prove nothing. I'm sure even Fords are great cars in vaccuum conditions. What's worse, his real life test shots that one needs to judge a camera are not comparable, hence wortless as well.
John Burns said:
Let me be sure I understand you here. You are making the claim
that Phil, by honoring an agreement, has proven himself to be
untrustworthy. Now if he broke the agreement that would make him a
trustworthy individual in your eyes. Ok fess up. You work for
dubya don't you.
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People like you make absolutely NO contribution whatsoever to this community.
Pete Miller said:
Frankly dpreview has traditionally been the last one to anounce
things (FinePix F700 case in point) and always far behind the
others with its camera reviews. Not to mention the quality of the
reviews. Imaging-resource and Steve's Digicams are a lot better. I
have no appreciation for Askey's laboratory test shots, as they
prove nothing. I'm sure even Fords are great cars in vaccuum
conditions. What's worse, his real life test shots that one needs
to judge a camera are not comparable, hence wortless as well.
John Burns said:
Let me be sure I understand you here. You are making the claim
that Phil, by honoring an agreement, has proven himself to be
untrustworthy. Now if he broke the agreement that would make him a
trustworthy individual in your eyes. Ok fess up. You work for
dubya don't you.
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What is your point? If you don't like DPReview then why are you reading the site and posting here? Go somewhere else and be happy for heaven's sake, life is too short for whining. Oops, wait, looks like I may be feeding a troll, sorry folks, my mistake...
Pete Miller said:
Frankly dpreview has traditionally been the last one to anounce
things (FinePix F700 case in point) and always far behind the
others with its camera reviews. Not to mention the quality of the
reviews. Imaging-resource and Steve's Digicams are a lot better. I
have no appreciation for Askey's laboratory test shots, as they
prove nothing. I'm sure even Fords are great cars in vaccuum
conditions. What's worse, his real life test shots that one needs
to judge a camera are not comparable, hence wortless as well.
John Burns said:
Let me be sure I understand you here. You are making the claim
that Phil, by honoring an agreement, has proven himself to be
untrustworthy. Now if he broke the agreement that would make him a
trustworthy individual in your eyes. Ok fess up. You work for
dubya don't you.
Click to expand...
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thang said:
Pete Miller said:
Frankly dpreview has traditionally been the last one to anounce
things (FinePix F700 case in point) and always far behind the
others with its camera reviews. Not to mention the quality of the
reviews. Imaging-resource and Steve's Digicams are a lot better. I
have no appreciation for Askey's laboratory test shots, as they
prove nothing. I'm sure even Fords are great cars in vaccuum
conditions. What's worse, his real life test shots that one needs
to judge a camera are not comparable, hence wortless as well.
John Burns said:
Let me be sure I understand you here. You are making the claim
that Phil, by honoring an agreement, has proven himself to be
untrustworthy. Now if he broke the agreement that would make him a
trustworthy individual in your eyes. Ok fess up. You work for
dubya don't you.
Click to expand...
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Pete -

Last time I checked, its a free world. You don't have to go to this site, or even post messages here. Just go straight to WalMart and buy your S50!

Better yet, to semi quote Michael Reichmann, don't just critique - do a better job yourself. Maybe then you will learn about balancing business needs, a personal life, and the passion of photography in a business that is 24x7.

Looking forward to your new website!

L
Pete Miller said:
S50 news have been out for two days, yet there's no mention of it
on this website. Other sites have been informing of it in spite of
their own Canon embargos. How is that possible? Respecting embargo
is one thing, acting like Canon's own marketing department and
ignoring reality another. It only goes to show who's in cahoot with
who, and it'd be wise to take that into consideration next time you
read a "Highly Recomended" rating on this site. I have been
questioning Askey's ratings for quite some time, but this really
shows who he's working for.

Regarding Canon: what the hell is the deal with S50? How stupid do
they think people are? Reusing the same old camera with the
occaional change of colors and marketing it each time as a
different model.

As if the whole S45 scam wasn't bad enough.......now this? Sure,
there will be morons cancelling their S45 orders and returning
those they already bought. But surely most of the picturetaking
population can't be that gullable and easily manipulated. What
Canon is doing is insulting and they should not get away with it.
Click to expand...
 
if it makes any difference to anyone, 'askey NOT trustworthy' is coming from someone whose two total posts are inside this thread. :) oh well it doesnt really matter. i think phils reviews are worthwhile and i enjoy reading them. obviously he cant test every condition the camera would be in and how it can perform - or else hed still be reviewing the canon pro 70. i think phils contribution in the digital camera websites arena [couldnt think or a better word :(] is great. each site shows us different things, all are helpful. by the way, phil is paying me to write nice things about this site, but i wasnt supposed to tell. oops!
Pete Miller said:
S50 news have been out for two days, yet there's no mention of it
on this website. Other sites have been informing of it in spite of
their own Canon embargos. How is that possible? Respecting embargo
is one thing, acting like Canon's own marketing department and
ignoring reality another. It only goes to show who's in cahoot with
who, and it'd be wise to take that into consideration next time you
read a "Highly Recomended" rating on this site. I have been
questioning Askey's ratings for quite some time, but this really
shows who he's working for.

Regarding Canon: what the hell is the deal with S50? How stupid do
they think people are? Reusing the same old camera with the
occaional change of colors and marketing it each time as a
different model.

As if the whole S45 scam wasn't bad enough.......now this? Sure,
there will be morons cancelling their S45 orders and returning
those they already bought. But surely most of the picturetaking
population can't be that gullable and easily manipulated. What
Canon is doing is insulting and they should not get away with it.
Click to expand...
--
christofurry

http://www.photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=523846
 
BlackJack said:
and as you can see...

http://www.digitalkamera.de/Info/News/16/82.htm

It is out in the open... he's just a little slow, that's all.....
It’s quite evident he has trouble staying on top of all the news....
AdamW said:
Pete Miller said:
S50 news have been out for two days, yet there's no mention of it
on this website. Other sites have been informing of it in spite of
their own Canon embargos. How is that possible? Respecting embargo
is one thing, acting like Canon's own marketing department and
ignoring reality another. It only goes to show who's in cahoot with
who, and it'd be wise to take that into consideration next time you
read a "Highly Recomended" rating on this site. I have been
questioning Askey's ratings for quite some time, but this really
shows who he's working for.

Regarding Canon: what the hell is the deal with S50? How stupid do
they think people are? Reusing the same old camera with the
occaional change of colors and marketing it each time as a
different model.

As if the whole S45 scam wasn't bad enough.......now this? Sure,
there will be morons cancelling their S45 orders and returning
those they already bought. But surely most of the picturetaking
population can't be that gullable and easily manipulated. What
Canon is doing is insulting and they should not get away with it.
Click to expand...
I am quite sure there is a Non-Disclosure Agreement involved
between Canon UK and Phil, as it is with many others out there.
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I could not agree more with the pro-Phil comments made already to the original post. I cannot stand being quiet about this...so I will add, "...what could Phil add to the S50 links and comments already posted in this forum?" He does not deal in hearsay, ifs, etc. "Just the facts, ma'm": news, reviews, and this great forum at no charge to us!

Look, I could have purchased an S45 locally some time ago for the original full price. But I'm not in a hurry, and willing to put up with delays and BS to get a really good deal on mine (I'm in line at Dell). It seems to me that delivery delay frustrations these days are related to the deep discount priced-S45s, not the entire food chain.

S50? I am sure it will be nice...but the S45 I had already decided will be perfect for my purpose. I'll save the extra bucks towards my 2nd digital camera purchase...a DSLR in a few years when the prices come down from the stratosphere and the pixel count on the order to what I can get on 35mm film via my Nikon Coolscan, and in the meantime I'll be capturing some moments (soon) with my very convenient S45 which otherwise would vanish into memories, the photons ending up heaven knows where (memories are good too, but you can't show them to anyone else). In the meantime, Canon will make a formal announcement in their planned time (next week?), and even at that point most of us would probably want to see some reviews, and some of us discounts...hmmm, 6-9 months from now might be readily available, but it won't be at $400-ish like the S45 (deep discount price). Canon's competition right now for the S50 (and likely their reason for announcing it) is the Minolta F300 (can anyone get one of these yet?) and other similar products.

Being myself an engineer who has seen my designs go into production-- but limited production because it is high-tech capital equipment--the S45 even at US$1,000 could be considered simply amazing!!! You are looking at millions upon billions of dollars in capital and IP investment to get to this point! (No wonder it's getting so tough to make money in the semiconductor and electronics businesses!!!). Where I live, I have to pay $135 for a plumber just to come to my house so I can show him that I have a plumbing problem, for heaven's sake, and if I'm lucky the total bill won't exceed the price of an S45! And I have lived in places where the plumber costs even more than here in San Jose!

Sorry to the forum for going on about this, but I think that this is an amazing website, and Phil if you are reading, thank you so very, very, much for your news, reviews, and forum which make all of this possible, and which has taught me so much in a short time!!! What a resource!!! (and of course, all of the forum members who contribute so generously as well).

: > )

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Cheers,
-Dennis W.
 
NullPointer said:
What is your point? If you don't like DPReview then why are you
reading the site and posting here? Go somewhere else and be happy
for heaven's sake, life is too short for whining. Oops, wait, looks
like I may be feeding a troll, sorry folks, my mistake...
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It would seem quite a few people have stopped at the bridge and threw a few scraps for it to feed on.
 
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