new dSLR from Canon

Chasseur d'Images is speculating too (and they say it). Assuming that the successor of the D60 will be less expensive than the D60, they speculate that it will be a less sophisticated camera, hence based on the 300 (european nomenclature).

Mahamane
As an EOS user looking to get a digital SLR in the near future,
I've been following rumors on this website regarding the
replacement for the D60. I don't have the time to peruse every
discussion, so please don't get ticked if this is something that
someone has already pointed out.

I found a pic of a Canon digital SLR on the Chasseur d'Images
website. Though my french isn't good enough to translate the
article, the accompaning pics make it look like a lower end dSLR -
probably based on a Rebel body.

Comment from the group? Again, I apologize if this has already
been pointed out by someone else.

Mark

--
digital imaging neophyte / new Apple computer user
 
Beleive me - Canons new DSLR models are among the best kept secrets in peacetime. I doubt anyone outside Canons facilities have ever seen it.

We just HAVE to wait until Canon have an official statement, unless some VERY convincing material 'leaks' out.
/ Mats
As an EOS user looking to get a digital SLR in the near future,
I've been following rumors on this website regarding the
replacement for the D60. I don't have the time to peruse every
discussion, so please don't get ticked if this is something that
someone has already pointed out.

I found a pic of a Canon digital SLR on the Chasseur d'Images
website. Though my french isn't good enough to translate the
article, the accompaning pics make it look like a lower end dSLR -
probably based on a Rebel body.

Comment from the group? Again, I apologize if this has already
been pointed out by someone else.

Mark

--
digital imaging neophyte / new Apple computer user
 
Hi Mark

Here is my translation (not very literary, and certainly not reliable since I am french, and, according to some bigots, "not trustworthy" :o).

As you will see, it's disappointing, since CI says he has no informations and just do assumptions.

In practice, what lies before us

In the absence of any official infos, we are obviously reduced by it to assumptions.

The disappearing of D60 is confirmed, which means that its replacement is imminent.
But, on this point, Canon-France does not say a word!
All the eyes thus turn PMA, which will take place, this year, only in March!

On our side, we would see well the arrival of TWO products: a very consumer range DLSR general public and a and a more "brawny" DSLR camera

D60 was built on an already old mechanical basis and which and which is out of date.

We cannot forget our reaction when we discovered the EOS-300v with its enormous lcd screen dedicated to show shootings infos.

If Canon decided to graft its C-Mos on the very reduced mechanical basis of the 300v, one would obtain without surprise a EOS 300d one can already imagine at bottom price!

Of course, such a camera would not give satisfaction to experts and an huge gap appears between this hypothetical 300d and the very professional EOS 1Ds.

There would be then a place of choice for a remake of D60 (D40, D50, D300ds??? bets are open!) who would take again it's general characteristics, but with a more important FPS rate and a more powerful "image tweaking" mode!

If it's confirmed that the DLSR cameras are are doomed to short commercial careers, many consumers could be discouraged.

For many of them, buying a DLSR camera is still regarded as an investment and, although the death of a product does not prevent those which are in service to continue to work, this infernal cadence is vexatious for amateurs, what the firms cannot be unaware of.
As an EOS user looking to get a digital SLR in the near future,
I've been following rumors on this website regarding the
replacement for the D60. I don't have the time to peruse every
discussion, so please don't get ticked if this is something that
someone has already pointed out.

I found a pic of a Canon digital SLR on the Chasseur d'Images
website. Though my french isn't good enough to translate the
article, the accompaning pics make it look like a lower end dSLR -
probably based on a Rebel body.
 
It may very well have been the former.

Still, anything out of the latter magazine is pure speculation. Nothing more. Well-respected or not, their "guesses" are no better (or worse) than any from other sources.
I think your are confusing EOSseries :
http://eosseries.ifrance.com/eosseries/en/eos_news.html
with Chasseur d'Images :
http://www.photim.com/Arrive/Sommaire.asp

Chasseur d'Images is a well respected and serious magazine.
--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
 
I spoke with Canon representatives, the buyer from one of the biggest camera stores in the U.S. and a few others and the best I've managed to put together is that the D60 will definitely be replaced. A new model will be issued with at PMA or approximately 6 months later. Odds make it look like one model will be released at PMA and be either a D80 or D90 and of couse have higher resolution than the D60.

I haven't been able to ascertain anything about other potential improvements. It seem unlikely it will be more expensive than the D60 and will probably be less expensive then the D60 list. No word as to how soon they will be shipping, expect a long waiting list based on previous history.

So what should you do now?

It depends on how much money you could be making with a camera in your hands now vs. waiting. If the only change is higher resolution than expect to pay more for memory and to spend more money upgrading your computer to handle the larger images.

From what I've heard I'd be quite shocked if there was a new pro-model released at PMA.

Don't hold your breath waiting for a EOS 3-D though I think it's likely one will be introduced eventually.

-Rudi
As an EOS user looking to get a digital SLR in the near future,
I've been following rumors on this website regarding the
replacement for the D60. I don't have the time to peruse every
discussion, so please don't get ticked if this is something that
someone has already pointed out.

I found a pic of a Canon digital SLR on the Chasseur d'Images
website. Though my french isn't good enough to translate the
article, the accompaning pics make it look like a lower end dSLR -
probably based on a Rebel body.

Comment from the group? Again, I apologize if this has already
been pointed out by someone else.

Mark

--
digital imaging neophyte / new Apple computer user
--
[email protected]
http://photo.halbrightsolutions.com
 
Chasseur d'Images = National Enquirer.
As an EOS user looking to get a digital SLR in the near future,
I've been following rumors on this website regarding the
replacement for the D60. I don't have the time to peruse every
discussion, so please don't get ticked if this is something that
someone has already pointed out.

I found a pic of a Canon digital SLR on the Chasseur d'Images
website. Though my french isn't good enough to translate the
article, the accompaning pics make it look like a lower end dSLR -
probably based on a Rebel body.

Comment from the group? Again, I apologize if this has already
been pointed out by someone else.

Mark

--
digital imaging neophyte / new Apple computer user
 
The problem with Chasseur is that they publish both facts and rumors, and they do not label the rumors as such.

Peter Burian
David,
So chasseur d'images is a poor source of information? I'm not
being a smartass, I really want to know as I'm trying to download a
translator to read the site and won't do so if this is a
notoriously bad site. God knows I've been underwhelmed with the
French position at the the U.N., if this site is just as
inconsistant I won't bother with it any more.
Mark
 
While i know there are many fine French individuals, as a "group" they haven't exactly been seen something to admire. This was posted in a newsgroup by someone who seems to know a little history... BG.

1/24/2003

Hoist by Their Own Petain

So, after 58 years, the French have decided that they prefer Vichy after all . It's hardly surprising. When the Vichy regime was in power, one could pretty much do what one wanted when it came to those troublesome Jews. Yes, there were shortages and lots of Germans around, but that's not much different from the present. Plus, just like today, the truly intellectual could take pride in the notion that they were part of something larger than a piddling little nation state. And really, " Liberté, égalité, fraternité!" is just so passe. Vichy knew that too, which is why they were replaced with Travail (work), Famille (family), and Patrie (fatherland).

Not that those are any better. The modern Vichian motto might as well be ignorez, retarde, apaisez . Ignore, delay and appease describe the French character as well as anything else, excepts perhaps "Unions, Vacations and Occasional Showers!".

You can hardly blame the French. France is example number one when comes to natural selection of a nation's character.

Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.

Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman."

Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.
Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots

Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.

The Dutch War - Tied

War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War - Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.

War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough , which they have loved every since.

American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."

French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.

The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer .

The Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

World War I - Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.

World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song .

War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu

Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.

War on Terrorism - France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald's.

Let's face it. When it comes to war, France gets rolled more often than a Parisian prostitute with a visible mustache. They've been beaten so many times there's no fight left in them. There's no national anthem in the world as ludicrous as France's

To arms, to arms, ye brave!
Th'avenging sword unsheathe!
March on, march on, all hearts resolved
On liberty or death.

Oh liberty can man resign thee,
Once having felt thy gen'rous flame?
Can dungeons, bolts, and bar confine thee?
Or whips thy noble spirit tame?

Can dungeons, bolts, and bar confine thee? Or whips thy noble spirit tame? Yes, demonstrably. The question for any country silly enough to count on the French should not be "Can we count on the French?", but rather "How long until France collapses?"

You should keep that in mind, Herr Schroeder.
 
they have more complete news in their paper

i don't understand how you can judge a french magazine without
having read it that is actually very simplistic.

I don't know how many of the people writing in this forum have read
the magazine (or do understand french) but you should not blame
somebody before you have the information prooving it.

For my own defense i have to say that i am not french ;-)
ALL they do is REPEAT rumors. They don't have any inside info.

This was QUITE clear when they "stole" my predictions about the D30
upgrade over a year ago.

Yeah, eventually they will get it right. But only because
somebody ELSE does first.

I'd like to meet their "researchers". All they do is scour the
forums for rumors, and repeat them.
I am sorry for you guys but you have to learn a little french
before you begin saying that the home page of chasseur d'images
says nonsense.

They only say that a low priced "d40" might use the body of the eos
300v and they also say that the picture is a fake done on purpose.

i won't make a comment on the position of france or the US in the
UN talks but your remarks about them only show how easely one can
be manipulated by TV , Press etc etc
--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
--
...timeless, ordered, simply stated, or even implied...
 
As an EOS user looking to get a digital SLR in the near future,
I've been following rumors on this website regarding the
replacement for the D60. I don't have the time to peruse every
discussion, so please don't get ticked if this is something that
someone has already pointed out.

I found a pic of a Canon digital SLR on the Chasseur d'Images
website. Though my french isn't good enough to translate the
article, the accompaning pics make it look like a lower end dSLR -
probably based on a Rebel body.

Comment from the group? Again, I apologize if this has already
been pointed out by someone else.

Mark

--
digital imaging neophyte / new Apple computer user
--
D60, G2, Elan 7E QD, Rebel 2000, 24-70L, 70-200L IS, 100-400L IS,
50mm f1.4, 85mm f/1.8, 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro, 135mm f/2, 200mm
f/2.8 USM, 1-550EX, 2-420EXs, MT-24EX, Bogen Tri-pod w/head, Bogen
monopod and the usual filters, cable releases and accessories.
--Thats ok, we dont trust you.
Brian Schneider
 
Schnieder is French?
--

D60, G2, Elan 7E QD, Rebel 2000, 24-70L, 70-200L IS, 100-400L IS, 50mm f1.4, 85mm f/1.8, 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro, 135mm f/2, 200mm f/2.8 USM, 1-550EX, 2-420EXs, MT-24EX, Bogen Tri-pod w/head, Bogen monopod and the usual filters, cable releases and accessories.
 
While i know there are many fine French individuals, as a "group"
they haven't exactly been seen something to admire. This was posted
in a newsgroup by someone who seems to know a little history... BG.
Every antisemite allways says : though I have an excellent jewish friend, I have to say...

Could you avoid to dump in this forum your irrelevant heap of garbage ?
 
I just did a google translation of the article. All it says is that Canon has dicontinued the D60. Any information on a low-end dslr is purely speculation on their part. The picture is not of a new rebel based dslr and the image on the lcd has probably been photoshopped in. That's not to say that a rebel based dslr couldn't appear in the future, however.
As an EOS user looking to get a digital SLR in the near future,
I've been following rumors on this website regarding the
replacement for the D60. I don't have the time to peruse every
discussion, so please don't get ticked if this is something that
someone has already pointed out.

I found a pic of a Canon digital SLR on the Chasseur d'Images
website. Though my french isn't good enough to translate the
article, the accompaning pics make it look like a lower end dSLR -
probably based on a Rebel body.

Comment from the group? Again, I apologize if this has already
been pointed out by someone else.

Mark

--
digital imaging neophyte / new Apple computer user
 
What's the definition of "French Military Strategic Planning"?

Answer: Determining who to surrender to and figuring out how fast it can be done.

Baaaahaaaahaaaa! French cowards.
--
Frank Phillips
http://www.frankphillips.com/macro
While i know there are many fine French individuals, as a "group"
they haven't exactly been seen something to admire. This was posted
in a newsgroup by someone who seems to know a little history... BG.
Every antisemite allways says : though I have an excellent jewish
friend, I have to say...

Could you avoid to dump in this forum your irrelevant heap of
garbage ?
 
Let's admit it...without the French, the world would a lot more dull...who else can we take so much entertainment from...Vive la France...keep surrendering.
While i know there are many fine French individuals, as a "group"
they haven't exactly been seen something to admire. This was posted
in a newsgroup by someone who seems to know a little history... BG.

1/24/2003

Hoist by Their Own Petain

So, after 58 years, the French have decided that they prefer Vichy
after all . It's hardly surprising. When the Vichy regime was in
power, one could pretty much do what one wanted when it came to
those troublesome Jews. Yes, there were shortages and lots of
Germans around, but that's not much different from the present.
Plus, just like today, the truly intellectual could take pride in
the notion that they were part of something larger than a piddling
little nation state. And really, " Liberté, égalité, fraternité!"
is just so passe. Vichy knew that too, which is why they were
replaced with Travail (work), Famille (family), and Patrie
(fatherland).

Not that those are any better. The modern Vichian motto might as
well be ignorez, retarde, apaisez . Ignore, delay and appease
describe the French character as well as anything else, excepts
perhaps "Unions, Vacations and Occasional Showers!".

You can hardly blame the French. France is example number one when
comes to natural selection of a nation's character.

Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000
years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an
Italian.

Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by female
schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French
Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a
Frenchman."

Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to
ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.
Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots

Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but
manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that
eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots
as chapeaux.

The Dutch War - Tied

War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War
  • Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded
Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of
French military power.

War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French
their first taste of a Marlborough , which they have loved every
since.

American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to
future Americans, France claims a win even though the English
colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle
Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France
only wins when America does most of the fighting."

French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent
was also French.

The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First
Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match
for a British footwear designer .

The Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany first plays the role of
drunk Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

World War I - Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by
the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's
like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her
"Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces
forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.

World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United
States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel
Song .

War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to
bed with the Dien Bien Flu

Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a
western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and
produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the
French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the
Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese
and Esquimaux.

War on Terrorism - France, keeping in mind its recent history,
surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to
surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a
McDonald's.

Let's face it. When it comes to war, France gets rolled more often
than a Parisian prostitute with a visible mustache. They've been
beaten so many times there's no fight left in them. There's no
national anthem in the world as ludicrous as France's

To arms, to arms, ye brave!
Th'avenging sword unsheathe!
March on, march on, all hearts resolved
On liberty or death.

Oh liberty can man resign thee,
Once having felt thy gen'rous flame?
Can dungeons, bolts, and bar confine thee?
Or whips thy noble spirit tame?

Can dungeons, bolts, and bar confine thee? Or whips thy noble
spirit tame? Yes, demonstrably. The question for any country silly
enough to count on the French should not be "Can we count on the
French?", but rather "How long until France collapses?"

You should keep that in mind, Herr Schroeder.
 
Nice, Maurice, that you yourself add to the list, "victims". And I hardly think the French history of human rights is one to be proud of. Don't you think it is funny?
While i know there are many fine French individuals, as a "group"
they haven't exactly been seen something to admire. This was posted
in a newsgroup by someone who seems to know a little history... BG.
Every antisemite allways says : though I have an excellent jewish
friend, I have to say...

Could you avoid to dump in this forum your irrelevant heap of
garbage ?
 

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