space shuttle re-entry

Valliesto Bailey · Feb 1, 2003

Nasa just put out a call for all video or still images of this disaster. I think they will need all of the information they can get to figure out what went wrong. The remaining pieces seem really small =(

I would be 1000x more happy to provide the image that solves the mystery, than to make even a penny from any image/video. But I don't think turning over any images/video to NASA will prevent anyone from selling such images/video either.

God bless the families.
--
Valliesto
'A hero is no braver than an ordinary man, but he is brave five
minutes longer.'

R.W. Emerson

DavidP #28649 · Feb 1, 2003

Any radar-guided missiles trying to get through THAT much stuff would have a heck of a time finding the intended target, ya think?

Ron Dawes said:
Yes indeed, it must be the very light dust and debris.

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http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

Ernie T. · Feb 1, 2003

Someone may have already said this but nasa would like all pictures turned in. Both video and still.

Jason Hutchinson said:
I pretty much missed it, it caught me by suprise.. then an ERR 2.
I did get a few frames off though. It was a minute early, and now
they say they can't find it. I'm a bit worried about it!

Here's a shot, no crop from Dallas.

--
Ernie T.

mal28 · Feb 1, 2003

to important now.

What a terrible tragedy, what a terrible loss, it brings some of our concerns into perspective

littleflurry aka Jenn Z. · Feb 1, 2003

i hate always seeing flaming messages towards each other. sometime people need to let things bounce off and shake it off. everybody understands eventually.

hawkeye said:
Bob Nicholson said:

What a prat!

hawkeye said:

Jason Hutchinson said:

I pretty much missed it, it caught me by suprise.. then an ERR 2.
I did get a few frames off though. It was a minute early, and now
they say they can't find it. I'm a bit worried about it!

Here's a shot, no crop from Dallas.

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photography is my passion.

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JennZ
http://www.littleflurry.com

Rune Moberg · Feb 1, 2003

DavidP said:
If they'd fly one more mission to get the astronauts on the space
station back down, then grounded shuttles for the rest of eternity,
maybe I could pay a lot less on my taxes.

Thanks to the space program a lot of new technologies have emerged. I suspect if you look closely enough, you'll find "space technology" inside your 1D or that big chunk of L glass with IS that you're hauling around...

Without new products, without new inventions, without new ideas, there's less reasons for people to buy stuff. If people stop buying new stuff, capitalism will basically grind to a halt.

So yeah, maybe you could pay a lot less on your taxes... :-/

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Rune, http://runesbike.com/

Vincent Oliver · Feb 1, 2003

Jason Hutchinson said:
DavidP said:

So how does the AP ever get photos sent to them? Hmmmmmm.

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Jason, ring their offices and tell them what you have or send them a link to your first posting - you don't need to email them the shot until they accept it. Normally the press would have a direct line telephone number where they transfer files to, rarely does any paper open attachments.
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Vincent Oliver

littleflurry aka Jenn Z. · Feb 1, 2003

think could the shuttle be tampered with before launch...causing the insulation to come off, damaging the wing & therefore damaging shuttle and now this? i don't like thinking this way but it seems not to be mentioned in the media or on nasa.gov. everyone assumes terrorist would shoot it in the sky. or hit it with a plane....or something similiar.

Jason Hutchinson said:
I pretty much missed it, it caught me by suprise.. then an ERR 2.
I did get a few frames off though. It was a minute early, and now
they say they can't find it. I'm a bit worried about it!

Here's a shot, no crop from Dallas.

--
JennZ
http://www.littleflurry.com

DavidP #28649 · Feb 1, 2003

If there's truly money to be made from these new technologies (as I'm sure there are), the free market would be a LOT more efficient at producing them than the feds.

Rune Moberg said:
Thanks to the space program a lot of new technologies have emerged.
I suspect if you look closely enough, you'll find "space
technology" inside your 1D or that big chunk of L glass with IS
that you're hauling around...

Without new products, without new inventions, without new ideas,
there's less reasons for people to buy stuff. If people stop buying
new stuff, capitalism will basically grind to a halt.

So yeah, maybe you could pay a lot less on your taxes... :-/

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

Dan White · Feb 1, 2003

The trail you are seeing on the radar is a ionization (sp?) trail that is left over from the break up and that trail will be in the air for several hours if not days, but as for the big pieces they were all on the ground with in 45 minutes of the break up (based on the altitude and the terminal velocity formula)

alos for those who have photos please submit them to nasa, but also please dont sell them because that would be like robbing the dead

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dadams · Feb 1, 2003

Jennifer aka littleflurry said:
think could the shuttle be tampered with

Possibly, but remember Occum's Razor. The most likely explination is the simplest. The shuttle is an awesomely complex operation. The potential for disaster is in any space flight, due to the propellants, speeds, velocity, etc. involved. When I was a kid, my Dad worked on solid fuel motors for various missles. Once a building 'went up' with 20 some Polaris second stange motors in it - there was litterally nothing left of that building, or the people in it.

After my childhood and Dad working in the space program, and, 10+ years in aviation systems, I still can't see these events without a profound sense of personal loss. It is so sad, but it is such dangerous work.

dave

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imaginequus - david adams photography LLC
http://www.imaginequus.com
North Beach, New Jersey USA

elmo · Feb 1, 2003

News organizations don't print and broadcast out of their concern for fellow man. They are in business. Anyone furnishing unique material for the profitable use by news organizations may expect to be compensated.

An example of robbing the dead would be trying to sell debris from the wreckage.

Dan White said:
The trail you are seeing on the radar is a ionization (sp?) trail
that is left over from the break up and that trail will be in the
air for several hours if not days, but as for the big pieces they
were all on the ground with in 45 minutes of the break up (based on
the altitude and the terminal velocity formula)

alos for those who have photos please submit them to nasa, but also
please dont sell them because that would be like robbing the dead

l
---l----
l
l

Phil Flash · Feb 1, 2003

It's not just the actual terrorist act, but we continue to be terrorized by the thought that anything that goes wrong "could be" a terrorist act, regardless of how small the chances.

In this case, I think it's almost impossible.

Phil Flash · Feb 1, 2003

Hey, don't beat yourself up. You caught a moment of history from your own personal perspective. Just too bad that the history is tragic.

Jason Hutchinson said:
I pretty much missed it, it caught me by suprise.. then an ERR 2.
I did get a few frames off though. It was a minute early, and now
they say they can't find it. I'm a bit worried about it!

Here's a shot, no crop from Dallas.

Dan Brown · Feb 1, 2003

They are submitted directly to the bureau chief in that area, unless you are currently employeed by AP, then they can be sent electronically.

DavidP said:
Jason Hutchinson said:

So, I sent some images to my local NBC affiliate. By the way, the
local TV stations here have some pretty detailed images.

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The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

--
Dan Brown
http://www.pbase.com/wheatenman

'If nothing changes, nothing changes'

Dan Brown · Feb 1, 2003

You might be careful about handing them over to NASA, they may then consider them to be confidential and deny you any rights to publish them. As with any investigation when the government is involved it is hard to sort out the fact from fiction. Any evidence that may be contraindicated to their explanation will try to be hidden.

Valliesto Bailey said:
Nasa just put out a call for all video or still images of this
disaster. I think they will need all of the information they can
get to figure out what went wrong. The remaining pieces seem really
small =(

I would be 1000x more happy to provide the image that solves the
mystery, than to make even a penny from any image/video. But I
don't think turning over any images/video to NASA will prevent
anyone from selling such images/video either.

God bless the families.
--
Valliesto
'A hero is no braver than an ordinary man, but he is brave five
minutes longer.'

R.W. Emerson

--
Dan Brown
http://www.pbase.com/wheatenman

'If nothing changes, nothing changes'

Dan White · Feb 1, 2003

elmo said:
An example of robbing the dead would be trying to sell debris from
the wreckage.

Dan White said:

The trail you are seeing on the radar is a ionization (sp?) trail
that is left over from the break up and that trail will be in the
air for several hours if not days, but as for the big pieces they
were all on the ground with in 45 minutes of the break up (based on
the altitude and the terminal velocity formula)

alos for those who have photos please submit them to nasa, but also
please dont sell them because that would be like robbing the dead

l
---l----
l
l

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littleflurry aka Jenn Z. · Feb 1, 2003

i'm sorry...it was just in my head and i started typing. u r 100% on your post.

Phil Flash said:
It's not just the actual terrorist act, but we continue to be
terrorized by the thought that anything that goes wrong "could be"
a terrorist act, regardless of how small the chances.

In this case, I think it's almost impossible.

--
JennZ
http://www.littleflurry.com

machz · Feb 1, 2003

I still remember the day when the first shuttle blew up in 86 with our teacher Christa McAuliffe on board. The school set up tv's in most of the classrooms so we could all watch the launch and out teacher make history.

I still remember the silence of the entire school when it happened it was a sad day for all......

Gil Tennant · Feb 1, 2003

Jason,

You'll want to contact the space agency and send them your photo, along
with details.

"NASA's Associate Administrator for Spaceflight Bill Readdy says anyone
with video or still pictures of the shuttle this morning are asked to
contact the space agency. Officials want all possible information for
the inquiry into this tragedy.
Readdy added, "It is too early to speculate" about the cause of the
shuttle's break up."

Gil "Astronut" Tennant

Jason Hutchinson said:
I pretty much missed it, it caught me by suprise.. then an ERR 2.
I did get a few frames off though. It was a minute early, and now
they say they can't find it. I'm a bit worried about it!

Here's a shot, no crop from Dallas.

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