G3 - What do you think you do not like most

if i could change things and i could only select a handfull of
changes, it would be:
-have some meaningfull battery gauge like sony has
-60 sec + bulb Tv
-52mm "lensmate" like adapter and a UV filter to save the lens
-have the Tv/Av info in the viewfinder like in my T90.

regarding the lenscap debate. its better to have it falling of
than messing up the lense if you turn on the power with the lenscap
on like on my friends c3020.
True, but then again many cameras, such as Sonys, can easily detect when the cap is in place and they simply cancel the lens extension and display a warning message until you remove the cap.
 
Yes, the Miami would look terrific with the G2/3. But I live in NY so maybe I should get the NY to hide the dirt and blend in with the rest of my attire. I have to remain de-spiffed to remain mug-free.

The Texas is kind of cool too for that earthy cowboy look.

About the gray shoulder strap - ditto - has anyone seen one?
I got the ProStrap wrist strap, Miami style (gray leather that's a
perfect match to the G3). I think it's a classy strap befitting the
G3. I also have the black NY style for my 4500. They're very nice
straps.

http://www.prostrap.com
Thank you for the link. Yes, I like the gray color of the Miami
Style. Anybody see a good gray shoulder strap ?
 
There is one grey shoulder strap that seems to be somewhat popular, the link is as follows:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bh4.sph/FrameWork.class?FNC=ProductActivator__Aproductlist_html___118288___OPSPLST___REG___CatID=0___SID=F315FE65230

hope it helps...
The Texas is kind of cool too for that earthy cowboy look.

About the gray shoulder strap - ditto - has anyone seen one?
I got the ProStrap wrist strap, Miami style (gray leather that's a
perfect match to the G3). I think it's a classy strap befitting the
G3. I also have the black NY style for my 4500. They're very nice
straps.

http://www.prostrap.com
Thank you for the link. Yes, I like the gray color of the Miami
Style. Anybody see a good gray shoulder strap ?
 
I have that strap in black for my Oly E20 and I love it. I can carry it around all day long with virtually no fatigue.

--
Todd Walker
Olympus: E20N, FL40, RM-CB01, FL-CB05, MCON-35, Stroboframe Quickflip 350
Canon: G2, Vivitar 285HV
http://twalker.d2g.com
Galleries:
http://www.fototime.com/inv/3C36882EA363952
 
That strap is too thick and will constantly be in the way of the G3's LCD monitor.
I have that strap in black for my Oly E20 and I love it. I can
carry it around all day long with virtually no fatigue.

--
Todd Walker
Olympus: E20N, FL40, RM-CB01, FL-CB05, MCON-35, Stroboframe
Quickflip 350
Canon: G2, Vivitar 285HV
http://twalker.d2g.com
Galleries:
http://www.fototime.com/inv/3C36882EA363952
 
About the battery gauge:

I haven't let my battery discharge all the way yet, so I have not discovered this problem. Is this true? Does the battery die soon after the first chunk on the battery display is gone? How soon after?

Thanks -
if i could change things and i could only select a handfull of
changes, it would be:
-have some meaningfull battery gauge like sony has
-60 sec + bulb Tv
-52mm "lensmate" like adapter and a UV filter to save the lens
-have the Tv/Av info in the viewfinder like in my T90.

regarding the lenscap debate. its better to have it falling of
than messing up the lense if you turn on the power with the lenscap
on like on my friends c3020.

just my 2 cents.

stjani
 
Just read all 45 replies to this thread and am pretty suprised no one mentioned the ISO 400 noise issue. Everyone agrees the G3 produces great image quality at ISO 50, but I for one would love to shoot ISO 400 with an usable noise level. No external flash to carry and a lot more character and spontanaiety in available light pics.

Both G2 and G3 also suffer from acute bit level reduction at ISO 400 (from 9.3 to 6.7 at ISO 50). This reduced dynamic range means they dont capture the full 256 tones required to simulate continuous tone, in other words, ISO 400 jpg images easily look posterized and fake after even minor white balance or exposure corrections.

IMHO these two things alone have kept the G3 from becoming the "digital Leica M" so many pros and advanced amateurs want for candids and available light work. Now lets go back to talking about camera strap colors...

Jorge Alban
Costa Rica
 
I hate the strap for the reason that it obstructs the usb/power/video door.
I have to re-arrange the strap almost every time I want to open the door.
The plastic door is so flimsy that strap feels like it is liable to break it.
So, upon reflection, maybe it's the flimsy door I do not like. :)
Wow, the “G3 Ugly Ugly Ugly” thread is HOT! It’s the style of G3
that MogMan doesn’t like most, I believe. I would like to see what
other G3 users do not like most about G3 (hopefully Canon will be
able to improve them in G4 or future products). For me, got to be
the STRAP. I own some SLR and P & S cameras. They all come with
very good straps. But I am so disappointed with G3’s, it is rather
stiff, hard to wrap around the camera body. I have to spend some
extra time just to push it in camera bag.

getg3
--
...Lyall
 
I myself have not tried it, but yes, I assume almost any strap will be in the way of the lcd. I think thats why we have such overwhelming support of the wrist strap.
I have that strap in black for my Oly E20 and I love it. I can
carry it around all day long with virtually no fatigue.

--
Todd Walker
Olympus: E20N, FL40, RM-CB01, FL-CB05, MCON-35, Stroboframe
Quickflip 350
Canon: G2, Vivitar 285HV
http://twalker.d2g.com
Galleries:
http://www.fototime.com/inv/3C36882EA363952
 
What I don't like about the G3 is the little plastic door that
covers the DC IN,A/V OUT, DIGITAL. (Doe this thing have a name?)
Anyway, everytime I wanna upload pics to my Mac, it feels so cheap
and bounches back, it iritates me. What I also don't like abvout
the G3 is that you can't make a cup of coffee with it.
Hehe, obviously you haven't tried to download pics from an Ixus! ;)
I used S-300 for a year before getting a G3 and this G3's plastic
door is a godsend compared to the awful Ixus' rubber..er, whatever
they call it (not a "door" for sure! :)). The G3's solution is one
thing about it that I never get tired to enjoy in this camera.
 
What non-SLR digital camera delivers noise free images at ISO 400?
Just read all 45 replies to this thread and am pretty suprised no
one mentioned the ISO 400 noise issue. Everyone agrees the G3
produces great image quality at ISO 50, but I for one would love to
shoot ISO 400 with an usable noise level. No external flash to
carry and a lot more character and spontanaiety in available light
pics.
Both G2 and G3 also suffer from acute bit level reduction at ISO
400 (from 9.3 to 6.7 at ISO 50). This reduced dynamic range means
they dont capture the full 256 tones required to simulate
continuous tone, in other words, ISO 400 jpg images easily look
posterized and fake after even minor white balance or exposure
corrections.

IMHO these two things alone have kept the G3 from becoming the
"digital Leica M" so many pros and advanced amateurs want for
candids and available light work. Now lets go back to talking about
camera strap colors...

Jorge Alban
Costa Rica
 
What non-SLR digital camera delivers noise free images at ISO 400?
None. Thats why I lug my D60 and 28-70 L around and crave after a
compact camera with a larger sensor. The question was what I didnt
like the most about the G3, not what was available in the market.
Then PMA is just around the corner...
Unless they come up with some new noise reduction methods, I wouldn't expect any dramatic improvements in this area in compact cameras in the near future. The only reason that SLRs have little or no noise is because their imaging chips are much larger relative to their resolution.

To include such a large chip on a G3-type camera would require a new, larger lens assembly, probably a larger overall body, and much higher price - so high,in fact, that it wouldn't make any sense to buy it.
 
To include such a large chip on a G3-type camera would require a
new, larger lens assembly, probably a larger overall body, and much
higher price - so high,in fact, that it wouldn't make any sense to
buy it.
The D60 sensor has the surface area of NINE G3 sensors. What makes you so sure Canon lacks the engineering or marketing muscle to produce and sell a sensor at least four times as large as the one in the G3?

A minimally equipped Contax G3, Konica Hexar RF (leaving Leica M aside for a second) runs around US $2000. People who buy these cameras will definitely be willing to pay half as much for a rangefinder digital with USABLE ISO 400.

Jorge Alban

"I wish to impress with my photos, not bench-press with my camera"
 
Great sugestions mike
Add more Custom modes (there's room for 2 more on mode dial.)

Provide useful battery level display (as in Sony Info Lithiums.)

Improve precision and responsiveness of jog dial (to allow fast
operation.)

Add manual focusing ring on lens barrel (with fast, precision
control.)

Allow display of all camera data regardless of LCD position.

Further improve speed and accuracy of AF, especially in low light.

Design focusing scale to accurately display true distances.
How about dispaying focal length and distance when you shoot.
Eliminate arbitrary shutter speed limits in Av and P modes.

Allow muting of all camera sounds from a single menu setting.

Display zoom level at all points (not just 4x and above.)

Add exposure data display to viewfinder, to allow better operation
without use of LCD monitor.

Standardize EXIF data format and publish specs freely and promptly.

Make optical viewfinder bigger & brighter (and eliminate lens
obstruction.)

Improve range of infrared remote, and add sensor in rear of camera.

Add backlight to data LCD.

Eliminate arbitrary limits on movies.

Add more control over contrast, sharpness, etc.

Improve viewability of LCD from different angles

Allow zoom in movies.

Add 30 fps movie mode option.

Longer timed shutter speeds (at least 30 seconds.)

Redesign eyepiece diopter adjustment dial.

Redesign plastic cover for cable connectors.

Make camera body smaller, more ergonomic, better balanced.

Add depth of field calculation aid.

Make camera body black (at least as an option.)

Add eyelet to bottom of camera for use of SLR-style wrist strap.

Offer underwater housing.
 
Mike,

I'll have to see if I can find something. I am not sure at all the S30 delivers less noisy pictures than the G3, but a lot of people call it the least noisy Canon digicam.
Please post an example. It would be quite remarkable if the S30
delivred better quality images than a G3 at any setting, especially
using a high ISO.
--
Gowan
 
Well, if we're talking about noise, the S30 is only a 3 megapixel camera using the same size CCD as the G3. The fewer pixels you squeeze into a given area the less noise you will get...
I'll have to see if I can find something. I am not sure at all the
S30 delivers less noisy pictures than the G3, but a lot of people
call it the least noisy Canon digicam.
Please post an example. It would be quite remarkable if the S30
delivred better quality images than a G3 at any setting, especially
using a high ISO.
--
Gowan
 
I agree with previous posts.

Here you have some more ideas of my own:

I would really like something like an SLR instant-on. Having to wait for your camera to become "available" can make you miss some opportunities. I also think a fixed lens (not the extensible type) would help a lot. Maybe even an LCD viewfinder? ;-)

Other wishes:
  • centered tripod mounting
  • full metal body
  • environmentally sealed? :)
  • better AF capabilities in the dark (esp. at full tele end of the zoom)
My best regards,
Dan Nutu
 

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