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Open Letter To Olympus & Informal Survey

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Bob
 
Yes, with a sensor at least equal or better than EM5, and $1300~$1400 range, unless FPS is really, really high.
 
yes i would be very happy with the E7, cause i have my SHG lens back in business and in fact they are very sharp that no other lens can match
 
Well, as a new happy user of E-5 I am not on the market for another 4/3 body yet.

But I would like to have an option to buy OVF featured E-7 in the future or maybe something smaller like E-50 even with EVF (if improved significantly).

What more bothers me is lack of a good but affordable long prime 4/3 lens. I would like to have something like 400mm/f4 or 500mm/f5.6 in HG quality. It is not necessary to be an Olympus' lens - good enough if some another manufacturer support 4/3 lenses with full AF.

We are still talking about new body, but number of available full AF lenses is precariously decreasing on the new lenses market.

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We have a good long telephoto with the 50-200 and an EC-20 teleconverter. That provides 400 mm f/6, which is an 800 mm equivalent to anything on a full frame sensor. There's the 70-300 mm lens and the very fine but not so affordable SHG 300 mm f.28. Considering the equivalent focal lengths on a 35 mm sized sensor, I just don't see the need for a much bigger lens on Olympus.
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dave gaines said:
We have a good long telephoto with the 50-200 and an EC-20 teleconverter. That provides 400 mm f/6, which is an 800 mm equivalent to anything on a full frame sensor. There's the 70-300 mm lens and the very fine but not so affordable SHG 300 mm f.28. Considering the equivalent focal lengths on a 35 mm sized sensor, I just don't see the need for a much bigger lens on Olympus.
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I drool for 300/2.8+ EC-20.
 
Sure, I'd buy an Olympus E-7 with the next, advanced sensor and processor. I'm still getting a lot of use out of my E-5 which was released 2 years ago but someday I'd like more DR and high ISO capability. My E-5 is only 1 year old so I'm not ready to plunk down $1700 for the next upgrade. But I will be when it comes along.

I would expect Olympus to release another upgrade to the E-5 in a year or so, but not before the fall of 2013. That's the regular cycle for new releases of top of the line Prosumer DSLRs.

The E-5 has the best viewfinder of all the Olympus cameras. It's got the rugged weather proof body and the best creative controls. So I'd rather buy an E-7 than an E-XXX or E-XX. I'd like to see Olympus revive the E-xxx and E-xx lines. It provides a good entry level introduction to Olympus lenses. I just don't see them continuing two lines at the same price point. It would compete with the OM-D line. But maybe they will.
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FF is a dead idea for 4/3 lenses. There's no reason to bring this up here on Olympus SLR Talk forum. You should post this dead idea on the Nikon forums.

Olympus shooters, which you are not, have chosen Olympus for the lenses and the size advantage, especially in telephoto lenses. What does a 600 mm f/2.8 lens cost for FF? It's off the charts and that's why Olympus is a much better choice for wildlife shooters.

The fast sharp lenses with good IQ out to the corners that are required for utilizing FF to it's full potential are 2 to 3 times what equivalent focal length Olympus lenses cost. The camera and lenses are a steep price to pay for the advantages that FF provides .

Olympus shooters want a good DSLR line of Pro bodies like the E-5 to continue.
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I switched to Nikon DX last year. Got the D7000, a 35mm, 50mm, 18-70mm, flash and handgrip. It was the promise of better low-light performance that drew me from 4/3 and m4/3 to Nikon DX. And yes, sure--the camera and the system delivered. But something didn't feel right.

I sold all my Nikon gear yesterday and traded it in for the E-M5. By chance, that day I helped my mom initialise the old E-500 I bought for her, so that she can use it on her upcoming holiday and was surprised at how quick and confident the AF locked on compared to the Nikon.

The primary reason I switched to Nikon was for the low-light performance. I got that, but y'know what? Within minutes of playing around with the E-500 that day, and the E-M5 the day after, I realised that the shooting experience was oh-so-much better on the Olympus.

Here's an excerpt from Thom Hogan's (awesome Nikon enthusiast and source) post, which pretty much sums up another reason why I switched away from Nikon DX and back to Olympus:
Darrell500 said:
Funny thing is, only three years after introduction, m4/3 has all of these lenses and more. Here it is coming up to 14 years after DX introduction and we're still missing key lenses.

Source: http://bythom.com/stateofdx2012.htm
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I look at (Olympus) 4/3 and I see a complete lens line-up with logical focal lengths for three distinct price ranges.

I look at (Olympus) m4/3 and I see a soon-to-be complete lens line-up (just missing a fast 17.5mm and 25mm, the former already announced) at logical and relatively affordable price.

Nikon DX? Nup. I felt as if I need to go dumpster-diving to find "consumer-priced" lenses.

Olympus has neglected its 4/3 base in favour of m4/3, sure. But personally, I'm looking forward to the solution they're planning to implement for their 4/3 lenses. I'm just hoping it will be a "proper" DSLR with a mirror. Hell, go SLT if you want--just give us that full-bodied feel in our hands!
 
dave gaines said:
I'd love to have this lens too. For now I get a lot of good photos with the 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 mkI. When the E-7 comes out, well then...
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Me too. I am very satisfied with my ZD 50-200 SWD + EX14. Still I would like to get longer lens for some special, hence ocassional, purposes - but it should be not so expensive like 300/2.8 is.

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t3htriste said:
I switched to Nikon DX last year. Got the D7000, a 35mm, 50mm, 18-70mm, flash and handgrip. It was the promise of better low-light performance that drew me from 4/3 and m4/3 to Nikon DX. And yes, sure--the camera and the system delivered. But something didn't feel right.

I sold all my Nikon gear yesterday and traded it in for the E-M5. By chance, that day I helped my mom initialise the old E-500 I bought for her, so that she can use it on her upcoming holiday and was surprised at how quick and confident the AF locked on compared to the Nikon.

The primary reason I switched to Nikon was for the low-light performance. I got that, but y'know what? Within minutes of playing around with the E-500 that day, and the E-M5 the day after, I realised that the shooting experience was oh-so-much better on the Olympus.

Here's an excerpt from Thom Hogan's (awesome Nikon enthusiast and source) post, which pretty much sums up another reason why I switched away from Nikon DX and back to Olympus:
t3htriste said:
Funny thing is, only three years after introduction, m4/3 has all of these lenses and more. Here it is coming up to 14 years after DX introduction and we're still missing key lenses.

Source: http://bythom.com/stateofdx2012.htm
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There will most likely be more FF bodies from now on, so they are not in a hurry with their upper Dx lenses updates. On the other hand, as the first camera in that link you provided - "D3200--a state-of-the-art entry camera. It's got a 24mp Nikon sensor that's about as good as it gets in APS/DX" - so there is always something for everyone. And there are plenty of lenses of every caliber around.
t3htriste said:
I look at (Olympus) 4/3 and I see a complete lens line-up with logical focal lengths for three distinct price ranges.

I look at (Olympus) m4/3 and I see a soon-to-be complete lens line-up (just missing a fast 17.5mm and 25mm, the former already announced) at logical and relatively affordable price.

Nikon DX? Nup. I felt as if I need to go dumpster-diving to find "consumer-priced" lenses.
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I had a 18-200 once, the word "dumpster" never came to mind somehow. I did not use it that much though.

Have you thought of Pentax by the way? For whatever strange reason I always liked their cameras. It is an enthusiast system clear, but very inviting with those limited primes they have. One day I will borrow one.
t3htriste said:
Olympus has neglected its 4/3 base in favour of m4/3, sure. But personally, I'm looking forward to the solution they're planning to implement for their 4/3 lenses. I'm just hoping it will be a "proper" DSLR with a mirror. Hell, go SLT if you want--just give us that full-bodied feel in our hands!
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There is nothing wrong with the remaining bodies, if it is just for something :).

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I would settle for a 400mm f/5.6 like the canon L that can be used wide open. Around $1200 ( Hell a 75mm cost $900 and you still have to buy the lens hood and bag) :)
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dave gaines said:
We have a good long telephoto with the 50-200 and an EC-20 teleconverter. That provides 400 mm f/6, which is an 800 mm equivalent to anything on a full frame sensor.
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I have and use regularly my 50-200 MkII and EC14 teleconverter. You are right, it is a good and long combo, with HG quality. But sometimes not long enough for me.
dave gaines said:
There's the 70-300 mm lens...
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Yes, I used to have one. Good, but definitely not HG quality, especially at the long end.
dave gaines said:
...and the very fine but not so affordable SHG 300 mm f.28.
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True. It's a next to the perfect lens. For a very 'unperfect' price tag.
dave gaines said:
Considering the equivalent focal lengths on a 35 mm sized sensor, I just don't see the need for a much bigger lens on Olympus.
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No problem :)
But I see the need and probably I am not alone :)
Hence my wish to get what I mentioned in my post ;)
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Petr
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Hi Darell,

YES...!!! And don't worry, your E7 or whatever they may call it is ' COMING '. It's only a matter of which quater they are likely to make the announcement.

Believe me it's coming, just like when I said it wasn't a Pana sensor on the OMD, nobody believe in me and yet it was.

Cheers...!!!

James Moh.

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Yes the em5 sensor looks great. Its what are lovely four thirds glass has been waiting for. So olympus give it to us.
 
I suspect you're stirring the pot again but you heard wrong, the E-M5 is not slow.
In fact it is as fast as any DSLR out there with most M43 lenses in S-AF.
If you want to use C-AF then there are better options.

The other advantage is that is more reliable than PDAF slrs with native M43 lenses.

Feel free to head over to the M43 forum where there are several threads of ex-Nikon users who have migrated to M43.
 
yep I'd buy a new 4/3 body. would prefer to replace my E30, E70 sounds good to me....maybe even "E720" as a entry level camera.
 
Like you, I would prefer an E620 or E30 replacement.

But if the only hope we have of ever using our HG and SHG lenses properly is to buy an E7, then I will jump on it.

Over a year ago I saw the handwriting on the wall and picked up a Sony A55 with both kit lenses. The lenses are just OK, but the camera itself will beat the pants off an E5 in every single way except weather sealing.

It is actually embarrassing when realize that the sensors in everyone else's entry level DSLRs can outperform the sensor in the E5. The OM-D is excellent, but if you go that route you have to either sell off your best Zuiko lenses or just get accustomed to slow AF.

Not everyone wants a tiny M4/3 camera with some sort of Rube Goldberg hybrid AF device.

If Olympus decides to put their best sensor in a flagship Olympus DSLR, then despite my preference for a smaller less costly camera, I will find the $1800 to buy an E7.
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