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I just wanted to let you know up front that I'm as big a newbie as you can be, this is my first posting, ever. I'm trying to choose between what I want and what I might actually need in the future. I want the 7Hi but my budget (and my brain and my wife) says 7i. However, I am a guy and you know I want all the newest gadgets, right? Sometime in the not too distant future I hope to be able to make a little money from greeting cards, calenders etc. (yes, I know, dream on) and I am wondering how important the AdobeRGB is in terms of getting things printed. Would it be worth the extra money for the 7Hi or would the 7i do just as well?

Also, are there any links to a site that lists what are just characteristics of both cameras and what are actual problems, like say the cracks in some 7Hi cameras?

One local camera store won't even bring in a 7Hi because he claims there is some problem with the camera locking up if you try to take a picture of a white wall, say against a bright sky. Anyone heard of that before?

Also, when I do finally decide on a camera is there a series of tests I should try in order to make sure everything is working properly? As with anything, I'm sure there are going to be some manufacturing defects on some cameras and I would like to find them in the first 15 days as then I can return it with no problems and get a new one.
Is this too many questions for one post?

Oh yeah, I just missed a picture of a seaplane taking off against a sunlit sky with a rainbow in the background! I need a camera!
Many thanks in advance for any help!
 
Blaine Atkins said:
I just wanted to let you know up front that I'm as big a newbie as
you can be, this is my first posting, ever. I'm trying to choose
between what I want and what I might actually need in the future. I
want the 7Hi but my budget (and my brain and my wife) says 7i.
However, I am a guy and you know I want all the newest gadgets,
right? Sometime in the not too distant future I hope to be able to
make a little money from greeting cards, calenders etc. (yes, I
know, dream on) and I am wondering how important the AdobeRGB is in
terms of getting things printed. Would it be worth the extra money
for the 7Hi or would the 7i do just as well?
Also, are there any links to a site that lists what are just
characteristics of both cameras and what are actual problems, like
say the cracks in some 7Hi cameras?
One local camera store won't even bring in a 7Hi because he claims
there is some problem with the camera locking up if you try to take
a picture of a white wall, say against a bright sky. Anyone heard
of that before?
Also, when I do finally decide on a camera is there a series of
tests I should try in order to make sure everything is working
properly? As with anything, I'm sure there are going to be some
manufacturing defects on some cameras and I would like to find them
in the first 15 days as then I can return it with no problems and
get a new one.
Is this too many questions for one post?
Oh yeah, I just missed a picture of a seaplane taking off against a
sunlit sky with a rainbow in the background! I need a camera!
Many thanks in advance for any help!
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From one Blaine to another...

If you are new to digital photography, I suggest that the 7i will be more than enought camera to keep you interested for a long time.
Save your money and hold out for the 9i!
Here are some samples:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=583575
 
Blaine Hankins said:
Blaine Atkins said:
I just wanted to let you know up front that I'm as big a newbie as
you can be, this is my first posting, ever. I'm trying to choose
between what I want and what I might actually need in the future. I
want the 7Hi but my budget (and my brain and my wife) says 7i.
However, I am a guy and you know I want all the newest gadgets,
right? Sometime in the not too distant future I hope to be able to
make a little money from greeting cards, calenders etc. (yes, I
know, dream on) and I am wondering how important the AdobeRGB is in
terms of getting things printed. Would it be worth the extra money
for the 7Hi or would the 7i do just as well?
Also, are there any links to a site that lists what are just
characteristics of both cameras and what are actual problems, like
say the cracks in some 7Hi cameras?
One local camera store won't even bring in a 7Hi because he claims
there is some problem with the camera locking up if you try to take
a picture of a white wall, say against a bright sky. Anyone heard
of that before?
Also, when I do finally decide on a camera is there a series of
tests I should try in order to make sure everything is working
properly? As with anything, I'm sure there are going to be some
manufacturing defects on some cameras and I would like to find them
in the first 15 days as then I can return it with no problems and
get a new one.
Is this too many questions for one post?
Oh yeah, I just missed a picture of a seaplane taking off against a
sunlit sky with a rainbow in the background! I need a camera!
Many thanks in advance for any help!
Click to expand...
From one Blaine to another...
If you are new to digital photography, I suggest that the 7i will
be more than enought camera to keep you interested for a long time.
Save your money and hold out for the 9i!
Here are some samples:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=583575
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Awesome pictures Blaine! It feels a little wierd talking to another Blaine, it's not the most common name in the world is it? Anyway, terrific pictures, I'm like the art critic, I don't know much about art, but I like what I see! I think you're right, you are getting some beautiful pictures from your 7i, and I think that's what I'm going to end up getting. I've never been able to look at a 7Hi but I did get a chance to try out a 7i in the store and it was very impressive. I compared it to a Nikon CP 5700 and just liked the way the controls were set up a little better. Can't beat the zoom and focus rings.

I think I'm going to wait 'til after the show on Mar. 2 and see what comes out. Maybe it'll help bring the prices down some if a newer version of the Dimage 7Hi comes out, the 7i costs $1400 CAN plus GST and PST but it's cheaper than the 7Hi at $2000 CAN!
Many thanks for your advice Blaine!
 
This site is excellent for comparing cameras Phil has done just that on the 7hi and 7i.

Everyone here will tell you they are both great cameras.

Adobe RGB is a big factor for me but, you won't miss it if you are not familar with the difference between S RGB and Adobe RGB already.
It does offer a wider color space however.

Possibly my favorite 7hi feature is its deeper buffer and fasterer shot/reload times.

Pros like the additional features added for them-differnt flash capabilities.

Read the reviews carefully and you should be able to make an great choice.

Don
Blaine Atkins said:
I just wanted to let you know up front that I'm as big a newbie as
you can be, this is my first posting, ever. I'm trying to choose
between what I want and what I might actually need in the future. I
want the 7Hi but my budget (and my brain and my wife) says 7i.
However, I am a guy and you know I want all the newest gadgets,
right? Sometime in the not too distant future I hope to be able to
make a little money from greeting cards, calenders etc. (yes, I
know, dream on) and I am wondering how important the AdobeRGB is in
terms of getting things printed. Would it be worth the extra money
for the 7Hi or would the 7i do just as well?
Also, are there any links to a site that lists what are just
characteristics of both cameras and what are actual problems, like
say the cracks in some 7Hi cameras?
One local camera store won't even bring in a 7Hi because he claims
there is some problem with the camera locking up if you try to take
a picture of a white wall, say against a bright sky. Anyone heard
of that before?
Also, when I do finally decide on a camera is there a series of
tests I should try in order to make sure everything is working
properly? As with anything, I'm sure there are going to be some
manufacturing defects on some cameras and I would like to find them
in the first 15 days as then I can return it with no problems and
get a new one.
Is this too many questions for one post?
Oh yeah, I just missed a picture of a seaplane taking off against a
sunlit sky with a rainbow in the background! I need a camera!
Many thanks in advance for any help!
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Thanks for the input about the Adobe RGB Don, I can now leave that out of the equation when I'm deciding between the two cameras. I think that the faster shot/reload time is the thing I like the most about the 7Hi as well and is probably the part I will miss the most if I go for the 7i. However, is it worth another $500 to me? I probably won't be doing a lot of quick shots, but then again when you need it, it would be really nice to have the ability to take several shots in a row. Thanks again for the help!
Blaine
Don Northup said:
Everyone here will tell you they are both great cameras.

Adobe RGB is a big factor for me but, you won't miss it if you are
not familar with the difference between S RGB and Adobe RGB already.
It does offer a wider color space however.

Possibly my favorite 7hi feature is its deeper buffer and fasterer
shot/reload times.

Pros like the additional features added for them-differnt flash
capabilities.

Read the reviews carefully and you should be able to make an great
choice.

Don
Blaine Atkins said:
I just wanted to let you know up front that I'm as big a newbie as
you can be, this is my first posting, ever. I'm trying to choose
between what I want and what I might actually need in the future. I
want the 7Hi but my budget (and my brain and my wife) says 7i.
However, I am a guy and you know I want all the newest gadgets,
right? Sometime in the not too distant future I hope to be able to
make a little money from greeting cards, calenders etc. (yes, I
know, dream on) and I am wondering how important the AdobeRGB is in
terms of getting things printed. Would it be worth the extra money
for the 7Hi or would the 7i do just as well?
Also, are there any links to a site that lists what are just
characteristics of both cameras and what are actual problems, like
say the cracks in some 7Hi cameras?
One local camera store won't even bring in a 7Hi because he claims
there is some problem with the camera locking up if you try to take
a picture of a white wall, say against a bright sky. Anyone heard
of that before?
Also, when I do finally decide on a camera is there a series of
tests I should try in order to make sure everything is working
properly? As with anything, I'm sure there are going to be some
manufacturing defects on some cameras and I would like to find them
in the first 15 days as then I can return it with no problems and
get a new one.
Is this too many questions for one post?
Oh yeah, I just missed a picture of a seaplane taking off against a
sunlit sky with a rainbow in the background! I need a camera!
Many thanks in advance for any help!
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If you ask around here somewhere, you may get some good advise on where to get a "cheaper" 7hi. I did'nt however I paid full price, when it first was intoduced.

Good luck you will have a blast with either one.

Don
Blaine Atkins said:
Don Northup said:
Everyone here will tell you they are both great cameras.

Adobe RGB is a big factor for me but, you won't miss it if you are
not familar with the difference between S RGB and Adobe RGB already.
It does offer a wider color space however.

Possibly my favorite 7hi feature is its deeper buffer and fasterer
shot/reload times.

Pros like the additional features added for them-differnt flash
capabilities.

Read the reviews carefully and you should be able to make an great
choice.

Don
Blaine Atkins said:
I just wanted to let you know up front that I'm as big a newbie as
you can be, this is my first posting, ever. I'm trying to choose
between what I want and what I might actually need in the future. I
want the 7Hi but my budget (and my brain and my wife) says 7i.
However, I am a guy and you know I want all the newest gadgets,
right? Sometime in the not too distant future I hope to be able to
make a little money from greeting cards, calenders etc. (yes, I
know, dream on) and I am wondering how important the AdobeRGB is in
terms of getting things printed. Would it be worth the extra money
for the 7Hi or would the 7i do just as well?
Also, are there any links to a site that lists what are just
characteristics of both cameras and what are actual problems, like
say the cracks in some 7Hi cameras?
One local camera store won't even bring in a 7Hi because he claims
there is some problem with the camera locking up if you try to take
a picture of a white wall, say against a bright sky. Anyone heard
of that before?
Also, when I do finally decide on a camera is there a series of
tests I should try in order to make sure everything is working
properly? As with anything, I'm sure there are going to be some
manufacturing defects on some cameras and I would like to find them
in the first 15 days as then I can return it with no problems and
get a new one.
Is this too many questions for one post?
Oh yeah, I just missed a picture of a seaplane taking off against a
sunlit sky with a rainbow in the background! I need a camera!
Many thanks in advance for any help!
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Blaine, Don makes some good points in comparing the options on 7Hi to the 7i, especially that buffer size. I'm not a pro, probably won't ever rely on photography as a money maker, but I do consider myself an enthusiast. I had decided on the 7i a while back when it first came out, not really keeping up with what was going on and went to purchase and saw the 7Hi (November 2002). So I researched, and quickly realized the 7Hi offered me more of what I was looking for, specifically the large buffer, the expanded memory slots for saved settings (not the compact flash slot), and the color space, while at the time I didn't think much of it, now it's a big deal. I have been a photoshop user for a while, but wasn't educated on color space. To me, and I think Don as well, the AdobeRGB offers an improvement over the more common sRGB. Not worth going with the 7Hi on that alone though. I also considered resell value. The 7Hi is a hot item, you'll be lucky to find one in the short term. I feel that if I ever intend to sell this camera, I'll have a better chance than with the 7i. Oh, and it's black, that's a HUGE reason it's better.......ha ha.

Brent
Blaine Atkins said:
I just wanted to let you know up front that I'm as big a newbie as
you can be, this is my first posting, ever. I'm trying to choose
between what I want and what I might actually need in the future. I
want the 7Hi but my budget (and my brain and my wife) says 7i.
However, I am a guy and you know I want all the newest gadgets,
right? Sometime in the not too distant future I hope to be able to
make a little money from greeting cards, calenders etc. (yes, I
know, dream on) and I am wondering how important the AdobeRGB is in
terms of getting things printed. Would it be worth the extra money
for the 7Hi or would the 7i do just as well?
Also, are there any links to a site that lists what are just
characteristics of both cameras and what are actual problems, like
say the cracks in some 7Hi cameras?
One local camera store won't even bring in a 7Hi because he claims
there is some problem with the camera locking up if you try to take
a picture of a white wall, say against a bright sky. Anyone heard
of that before?
Also, when I do finally decide on a camera is there a series of
tests I should try in order to make sure everything is working
properly? As with anything, I'm sure there are going to be some
manufacturing defects on some cameras and I would like to find them
in the first 15 days as then I can return it with no problems and
get a new one.
Is this too many questions for one post?
Oh yeah, I just missed a picture of a seaplane taking off against a
sunlit sky with a rainbow in the background! I need a camera!
Many thanks in advance for any help!
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Brent, Great point, resale value was another very important factor for me.

However, after becoming one with my 7hi, it will not be going up for sale anytime soon!!

Don
Brivers said:
Brent
Blaine Atkins said:
I just wanted to let you know up front that I'm as big a newbie as
you can be, this is my first posting, ever. I'm trying to choose
between what I want and what I might actually need in the future. I
want the 7Hi but my budget (and my brain and my wife) says 7i.
However, I am a guy and you know I want all the newest gadgets,
right? Sometime in the not too distant future I hope to be able to
make a little money from greeting cards, calenders etc. (yes, I
know, dream on) and I am wondering how important the AdobeRGB is in
terms of getting things printed. Would it be worth the extra money
for the 7Hi or would the 7i do just as well?
Also, are there any links to a site that lists what are just
characteristics of both cameras and what are actual problems, like
say the cracks in some 7Hi cameras?
One local camera store won't even bring in a 7Hi because he claims
there is some problem with the camera locking up if you try to take
a picture of a white wall, say against a bright sky. Anyone heard
of that before?
Also, when I do finally decide on a camera is there a series of
tests I should try in order to make sure everything is working
properly? As with anything, I'm sure there are going to be some
manufacturing defects on some cameras and I would like to find them
in the first 15 days as then I can return it with no problems and
get a new one.
Is this too many questions for one post?
Oh yeah, I just missed a picture of a seaplane taking off against a
sunlit sky with a rainbow in the background! I need a camera!
Many thanks in advance for any help!
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http://www.pbase.com/brivers
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Guys, I've had the 7Hi for about a week and I am in love with it. I actually had an S404 and loved that too but wanted more so I upgraded. My partner is a proper photographer and I tried hooking up her studio flash via the PC and it worked a treat. Blaine, if you are thinking of going more commerical in future, hooking up studio lights might be an important issue, and nearly everyone I know in the imaging industry (I work in a photo library) uses Adobe RGB.

Oh, and Brent, call me silly but I am a sucker for gadgets coloured in black too!
Cheers!
Brivers said:
Brent
Blaine Atkins said:
I just wanted to let you know up front that I'm as big a newbie as
you can be, this is my first posting, ever. I'm trying to choose
between what I want and what I might actually need in the future. I
want the 7Hi but my budget (and my brain and my wife) says 7i.
However, I am a guy and you know I want all the newest gadgets,
right? Sometime in the not too distant future I hope to be able to
make a little money from greeting cards, calenders etc. (yes, I
know, dream on) and I am wondering how important the AdobeRGB is in
terms of getting things printed. Would it be worth the extra money
for the 7Hi or would the 7i do just as well?
Also, are there any links to a site that lists what are just
characteristics of both cameras and what are actual problems, like
say the cracks in some 7Hi cameras?
One local camera store won't even bring in a 7Hi because he claims
there is some problem with the camera locking up if you try to take
a picture of a white wall, say against a bright sky. Anyone heard
of that before?
Also, when I do finally decide on a camera is there a series of
tests I should try in order to make sure everything is working
properly? As with anything, I'm sure there are going to be some
manufacturing defects on some cameras and I would like to find them
in the first 15 days as then I can return it with no problems and
get a new one.
Is this too many questions for one post?
Oh yeah, I just missed a picture of a seaplane taking off against a
sunlit sky with a rainbow in the background! I need a camera!
Many thanks in advance for any help!
Click to expand...
--
http://www.pbase.com/brivers
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Seymore,

If you run into a great fellow forum member Chuck Gardner in your travels.

Please enlighten him to the advantages and commercial success of the Adobe Color space. This is a current topic. He seems to think you can just shoot in sRGB and convert to Adobe HA!....

I am glad to hear of your success with the studio lights thats great to hear.

Your advise is solid.

Don
Seymour said:
Brivers said:
Brent
Blaine Atkins said:
I just wanted to let you know up front that I'm as big a newbie as
you can be, this is my first posting, ever. I'm trying to choose
between what I want and what I might actually need in the future. I
want the 7Hi but my budget (and my brain and my wife) says 7i.
However, I am a guy and you know I want all the newest gadgets,
right? Sometime in the not too distant future I hope to be able to
make a little money from greeting cards, calenders etc. (yes, I
know, dream on) and I am wondering how important the AdobeRGB is in
terms of getting things printed. Would it be worth the extra money
for the 7Hi or would the 7i do just as well?
Also, are there any links to a site that lists what are just
characteristics of both cameras and what are actual problems, like
say the cracks in some 7Hi cameras?
One local camera store won't even bring in a 7Hi because he claims
there is some problem with the camera locking up if you try to take
a picture of a white wall, say against a bright sky. Anyone heard
of that before?
Also, when I do finally decide on a camera is there a series of
tests I should try in order to make sure everything is working
properly? As with anything, I'm sure there are going to be some
manufacturing defects on some cameras and I would like to find them
in the first 15 days as then I can return it with no problems and
get a new one.
Is this too many questions for one post?
Oh yeah, I just missed a picture of a seaplane taking off against a
sunlit sky with a rainbow in the background! I need a camera!
Many thanks in advance for any help!
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http://www.pbase.com/brivers
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Seymore here is the link orf the Adobe RGB discussion, throw in if you like.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1024&message=4251177

Don
Seymour said:
Brivers said:
Brent
Blaine Atkins said:
I just wanted to let you know up front that I'm as big a newbie as
you can be, this is my first posting, ever. I'm trying to choose
between what I want and what I might actually need in the future. I
want the 7Hi but my budget (and my brain and my wife) says 7i.
However, I am a guy and you know I want all the newest gadgets,
right? Sometime in the not too distant future I hope to be able to
make a little money from greeting cards, calenders etc. (yes, I
know, dream on) and I am wondering how important the AdobeRGB is in
terms of getting things printed. Would it be worth the extra money
for the 7Hi or would the 7i do just as well?
Also, are there any links to a site that lists what are just
characteristics of both cameras and what are actual problems, like
say the cracks in some 7Hi cameras?
One local camera store won't even bring in a 7Hi because he claims
there is some problem with the camera locking up if you try to take
a picture of a white wall, say against a bright sky. Anyone heard
of that before?
Also, when I do finally decide on a camera is there a series of
tests I should try in order to make sure everything is working
properly? As with anything, I'm sure there are going to be some
manufacturing defects on some cameras and I would like to find them
in the first 15 days as then I can return it with no problems and
get a new one.
Is this too many questions for one post?
Oh yeah, I just missed a picture of a seaplane taking off against a
sunlit sky with a rainbow in the background! I need a camera!
Many thanks in advance for any help!
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Hmmm, I know these forums are aimed at healthy debate, but I am ducking out of this one Don. As far as I am concerned, Adobe appears nicer in colour on my monitor cv sRGB. Insisting on the same colour profile helps us middle guys to acquire and market photography with minimal alteration. Having said that, it's a moot point to the average home user since they don't usually have the set-up to notice much difference.

It's cold and winter here in London, I'm off to shoot some night scenes!
Bye.
Don Northup said:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1024&message=4251177

Don
Seymour said:
Brivers said:
Brent
Blaine Atkins said:
I just wanted to let you know up front that I'm as big a newbie as
you can be, this is my first posting, ever. I'm trying to choose
between what I want and what I might actually need in the future. I
want the 7Hi but my budget (and my brain and my wife) says 7i.
However, I am a guy and you know I want all the newest gadgets,
right? Sometime in the not too distant future I hope to be able to
make a little money from greeting cards, calenders etc. (yes, I
know, dream on) and I am wondering how important the AdobeRGB is in
terms of getting things printed. Would it be worth the extra money
for the 7Hi or would the 7i do just as well?
Also, are there any links to a site that lists what are just
characteristics of both cameras and what are actual problems, like
say the cracks in some 7Hi cameras?
One local camera store won't even bring in a 7Hi because he claims
there is some problem with the camera locking up if you try to take
a picture of a white wall, say against a bright sky. Anyone heard
of that before?
Also, when I do finally decide on a camera is there a series of
tests I should try in order to make sure everything is working
properly? As with anything, I'm sure there are going to be some
manufacturing defects on some cameras and I would like to find them
in the first 15 days as then I can return it with no problems and
get a new one.
Is this too many questions for one post?
Oh yeah, I just missed a picture of a seaplane taking off against a
sunlit sky with a rainbow in the background! I need a camera!
Many thanks in advance for any help!
Click to expand...
--
http://www.pbase.com/brivers
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Don,

I think Chuck knows his stuff, and what he was saying was using the AdobeRGB didn't necessarily produce a "better" picture. I didn't get from his post that converting from sRGB to the Adobe color space in Photoshop produced the 'same' picture as shooting in the AdobeRBG on the camera. Maybe I misinterpreted, but Chuck is very knowledgeable on the subject of color. For me, I can see a visual difference, an improvement with the AdobeRGB, and I can use it from caputure to print and I'm satisfied.

B
Don Northup said:
If you run into a great fellow forum member Chuck Gardner in your
travels.
Please enlighten him to the advantages and commercial success of
the Adobe Color space. This is a current topic. He seems to think
you can just shoot in sRGB and convert to Adobe HA!....

I am glad to hear of your success with the studio lights thats
great to hear.

Your advise is solid.

Don
Seymour said:
Brivers said:
Brent
Blaine Atkins said:
I just wanted to let you know up front that I'm as big a newbie as
you can be, this is my first posting, ever. I'm trying to choose
between what I want and what I might actually need in the future. I
want the 7Hi but my budget (and my brain and my wife) says 7i.
However, I am a guy and you know I want all the newest gadgets,
right? Sometime in the not too distant future I hope to be able to
make a little money from greeting cards, calenders etc. (yes, I
know, dream on) and I am wondering how important the AdobeRGB is in
terms of getting things printed. Would it be worth the extra money
for the 7Hi or would the 7i do just as well?
Also, are there any links to a site that lists what are just
characteristics of both cameras and what are actual problems, like
say the cracks in some 7Hi cameras?
One local camera store won't even bring in a 7Hi because he claims
there is some problem with the camera locking up if you try to take
a picture of a white wall, say against a bright sky. Anyone heard
of that before?
Also, when I do finally decide on a camera is there a series of
tests I should try in order to make sure everything is working
properly? As with anything, I'm sure there are going to be some
manufacturing defects on some cameras and I would like to find them
in the first 15 days as then I can return it with no problems and
get a new one.
Is this too many questions for one post?
Oh yeah, I just missed a picture of a seaplane taking off against a
sunlit sky with a rainbow in the background! I need a camera!
Many thanks in advance for any help!
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http://www.pbase.com/brivers
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Hello Blaine,

I have diecided on a D7Hi over D7i.

I have found the short shutter lag and more than one storage of user's camera settings in memory very helpful.

The black colour is cool but more importantly the roughened external texture allows me to hold the camera securely.

Sam
Blaine Atkins said:
Don Northup said:
This site is excellent for comparing cameras Phil has done just
that on the 7hi and 7i.

Everyone here will tell you they are both great cameras.

Adobe RGB is a big factor for me but, you won't miss it if you are
not familar with the difference between S RGB and Adobe RGB already.
It does offer a wider color space however.

Possibly my favorite 7hi feature is its deeper buffer and fasterer
shot/reload times.

Pros like the additional features added for them-differnt flash
capabilities.

Read the reviews carefully and you should be able to make an great
choice.

Don
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Brivers,

I am not debating Chuck knowing his stuff, he has considerable knowledge in many areas imn my opinion. I believe I was only debating the point that you cannot expect the same results by taking an original sRGB image of the same subject and converting it to Adobe RGB. The Adobe Will look better. How much better is merely a matter of opinion.With some color management skills Adobe RGB can become a big asset to have on the the 7hi if you use it.

Don

P.S. Hi Chuck
Brivers said:
I think Chuck knows his stuff, and what he was saying was using the
AdobeRGB didn't necessarily produce a "better" picture. I didn't
get from his post that converting from sRGB to the Adobe color
space in Photoshop produced the 'same' picture as shooting in the
AdobeRBG on the camera. Maybe I misinterpreted, but Chuck is very
knowledgeable on the subject of color. For me, I can see a visual
difference, an improvement with the AdobeRGB, and I can use it from
caputure to print and I'm satisfied.

B
Don Northup said:
If you run into a great fellow forum member Chuck Gardner in your
travels.
Please enlighten him to the advantages and commercial success of
the Adobe Color space. This is a current topic. He seems to think
you can just shoot in sRGB and convert to Adobe HA!....

I am glad to hear of your success with the studio lights thats
great to hear.

Your advise is solid.

Don
Seymour said:
Brivers said:
Brent
Blaine Atkins said:
I just wanted to let you know up front that I'm as big a newbie as
you can be, this is my first posting, ever. I'm trying to choose
between what I want and what I might actually need in the future. I
want the 7Hi but my budget (and my brain and my wife) says 7i.
However, I am a guy and you know I want all the newest gadgets,
right? Sometime in the not too distant future I hope to be able to
make a little money from greeting cards, calenders etc. (yes, I
know, dream on) and I am wondering how important the AdobeRGB is in
terms of getting things printed. Would it be worth the extra money
for the 7Hi or would the 7i do just as well?
Also, are there any links to a site that lists what are just
characteristics of both cameras and what are actual problems, like
say the cracks in some 7Hi cameras?
One local camera store won't even bring in a 7Hi because he claims
there is some problem with the camera locking up if you try to take
a picture of a white wall, say against a bright sky. Anyone heard
of that before?
Also, when I do finally decide on a camera is there a series of
tests I should try in order to make sure everything is working
properly? As with anything, I'm sure there are going to be some
manufacturing defects on some cameras and I would like to find them
in the first 15 days as then I can return it with no problems and
get a new one.
Is this too many questions for one post?
Oh yeah, I just missed a picture of a seaplane taking off against a
sunlit sky with a rainbow in the background! I need a camera!
Many thanks in advance for any help!
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I'm looking forward to using the AdobeRGB colorspace from this point forward as I feel it does ad to the overall quality of the picture. I truely love this camera, especially now that I can print from it locally. Just need to experiment with other papers, might be purchasing some Ilford Classic Pearl as it's been noted multiple times as a great paper for the S series Canon printers.

Brent
Don Northup said:
I am not debating Chuck knowing his stuff, he has considerable
knowledge in many areas imn my opinion. I believe I was only
debating the point that you cannot expect the same results by
taking an original sRGB image of the same subject and converting it
to Adobe RGB. The Adobe Will look better. How much better is merely
a matter of opinion.With some color management skills Adobe RGB can
become a big asset to have on the the 7hi if you use it.

Don

P.S. Hi Chuck
Brivers said:
Don,

I think Chuck knows his stuff, and what he was saying was using the
AdobeRGB didn't necessarily produce a "better" picture. I didn't
get from his post that converting from sRGB to the Adobe color
space in Photoshop produced the 'same' picture as shooting in the
AdobeRBG on the camera. Maybe I misinterpreted, but Chuck is very
knowledgeable on the subject of color. For me, I can see a visual
difference, an improvement with the AdobeRGB, and I can use it from
caputure to print and I'm satisfied.

B
Don Northup wrote:
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Brent,

Experiences told me to do the same. I hope it adds a little zest to your stuff. I agree the 7hi is quite a bundle, disguised as small package. I use an an Epson and can't comment on the ICP. I wish I had a speedy Cannon to supplement though. My Epson seems to spit out better glossys from the 7hi than it does other types of paper, just my opinion though, I'm sure.

Don
Brivers said:
Brent
Don Northup said:
I am not debating Chuck knowing his stuff, he has considerable
knowledge in many areas imn my opinion. I believe I was only
debating the point that you cannot expect the same results by
taking an original sRGB image of the same subject and converting it
to Adobe RGB. The Adobe Will look better. How much better is merely
a matter of opinion.With some color management skills Adobe RGB can
become a big asset to have on the the 7hi if you use it.

Don

P.S. Hi Chuck
Brivers said:
Don,

I think Chuck knows his stuff, and what he was saying was using the
AdobeRGB didn't necessarily produce a "better" picture. I didn't
get from his post that converting from sRGB to the Adobe color
space in Photoshop produced the 'same' picture as shooting in the
AdobeRBG on the camera. Maybe I misinterpreted, but Chuck is very
knowledgeable on the subject of color. For me, I can see a visual
difference, an improvement with the AdobeRGB, and I can use it from
caputure to print and I'm satisfied.

B
Don Northup wrote:
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