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Suzette Troche

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Hi....

I am looking for a lens with macro capability for beauty...anyone had any experience with lenses for the S2? I was looking at the Nikkor 105 with macro and the Sigma 105 with macro....any help would be appreciated....
 
I use the Nikon 60mm micro, and it's absolutely amazing.

I also had occasion to shoot with the 70-180 micro the other day and I was very favorably impressed with it as well. My impression is that all of Nikon's micro line are really excellent lenses - you might check Ron Reznik's page (sorry, don't have link handy) for reviews of the specific models.
Hi....

I am looking for a lens with macro capability for beauty...anyone
had any experience with lenses for the S2? I was looking at the
Nikkor 105 with macro and the Sigma 105 with macro....any help
would be appreciated....
--
Charles Bandes
http://www.bandesphoto.com
 
I am looking for a lens with macro capability for beauty...anyone
had any experience with lenses for the S2? I was looking at the
Nikkor 105 with macro and the Sigma 105 with macro....any help
would be appreciated.
Suzette,

I'd strongly advise you to NOT buy the AF 105 Micro-Nikkor f/2.8 as a macro lens for beauty. It has a very sharp-edged,chunky-shaped, old-style lens diaphragm. It changes focal length as it focuses closer. It will make "hash" out of your out of focus backgrounds when you shoot photos of people outdoors with natural backgrounds. It has a harsh,yucky look to its images OF 3-D scenes.Sharp,yes,but the "rendition" of the lens on 3-D subjects looks pretty old-style compared to the best of what's out there now. It is in no WAY a good lens for people or beauty photography now in 2003. There are much better lenses for photographing people or animals at this focal length, like the Tamron 90 Macro or Nikkor 105 f/2 AF-Defocus Control or the Nikkor 85mm 1.4 AF-D,or even the 80-400 VR lens. All have nice,round diaphragms.

You'll want a lens that's great at f/5.6 down to f/13 too. A little bit shorter focal length than 105 might be useful (is useful). My vote does not go to the 105 Micro-Nikkor for people--it just flat out does not look good. Look for a lens with a nice, rounded diaphragm opening. This is the "new thing",and it leads to better "bokeh" as the Japanese call it.

I suspect the Simga 105 Macro has a modern-style,rounded,probably 9-bladed diaphragm. I have seen a handful of shots from the Sigma 105,and none have been of beauty of glamour subjects, and some samples have been just "good", while others have been outstandingly sharp. As in "great tele macro resolution". Problem was, the shots were in the Sigma SD-9 forum under "this thread is for the birds",and were ultra-close,frame-filling macros of exotic roosters. No real "background" to evaluate,but some of the most amazing detail rendition I have seen from a tele-macro on the web.Two people I trust swear the Sigma 105 EX-Macro is "the sharpest lens they have ever owned or shot", but they both still shoot film. I can't really tell you more.

You could do a lot better than the 105 Micro as a people lens. Look for the rounded diaphragm in whichever lens you choose. But don't drop $450 on a 105 Nikkor that looks far,far more ugly than about four or five other fine 85-105mm prime lenses from Tamron and Nikon. All I'm saying is the 105 Micro Nikkor is not designed as a people lens--Nikon and Tamron both have much better lenses for this kind of photography (beauty/portraiture/glamour).
---
Happy Shooting!
Derrel
 
Hi....

I am looking for a lens with macro capability for beauty...anyone
had any experience with lenses for the S2? I was looking at the
Nikkor 105 with macro and the Sigma 105 with macro....any help
would be appreciated....
Hi Suzette:

With a 105 mm lens x 1.5 factor is an equivalent 158mm lens. How far back do you want to stand to get a bust shot? I have the Tamron 90mm macro, and it still requires a lot of space. Great lens though.

Don't pass up the venerable 50mm Nikkors effective 75mm on the S2. Less expensive too. There are a few test shots I took of my grandsons on my http://home.ptd.net/~mdemyan web site.

Here is a shot with the 50mm f1.4 Nikkor @ f8



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Mike Demyan
S-2
http://www.pbase.com/mdemyan
http://home.ptd.net/~mdemyan

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Knowledge kept, goes with you - 6 ft under.
 
Another lens you may want to consider is the Nikkor 45 2.8P. THis is not an Autofocus lens but does give you all the other metering and Auto features. It is a very small lens and is reputed to give perhaps the best "bokeh" which Derrel mentioned of any Nikon lens. It is a bit overpriced though for what it is. And like another poster mentioned, don't leave out the Nikkor 50 1.8. For around $100, it's really hard to beat. Try it Wide open which will give the best out of focus "bokeh" with this particular lens(although, in general, I don't think the Nikon 50's are known for great Bokeh but by shooting wide open, you will at least not be introducing the shape of the aperature diaphram). I used to shoot with a Tamron Macro 90 and really really liked it. But like another poster mentioned, don't forget the 1.5 factor.

Tariq
Tariq.com
Hi....

I am looking for a lens with macro capability for beauty...anyone
had any experience with lenses for the S2? I was looking at the
Nikkor 105 with macro and the Sigma 105 with macro....any help
would be appreciated....
 
Hi....

I am looking for a lens with macro capability for beauty...anyone
had any experience with lenses for the S2? I was looking at the
Nikkor 105 with macro and the Sigma 105 with macro....any help
would be appreciated....
Nimkon put out a 60 macro that was wonderful. I don't know if they still make it. I wish I could find one.
 
Hi....

I am looking for a lens with macro capability for beauty...anyone
had any experience with lenses for the S2? I was looking at the
Nikkor 105 with macro and the Sigma 105 with macro....any help
would be appreciated....
Nikon put out a 60 macro that was wonderful. I don't know if they
still make it. I wish I could find one.
 
It's the 60mm 2.8 micro-nikkor AF-D, around $329 from b+h
 
I am looking for a lens with macro capability for beauty...anyone
had any experience with lenses for the S2?
a macro for beauty??

I agree with Derrel on this ...I have both the Nikkor 105 f2.8 and 60 f2.8 which I use for flower & wild life photography. These are outstanding lenses, but I think are not the match of the Nikkor 85 f1.4 for glamour/beauty photography. This lens produces creamy bokah with the f1.4 aperture allowing a flatteringly narrow the depth of sharpness.

Seems a pretty nice focal length for doing people and is outstanding for available light photos. The lens has a beautiful build, but can only be stopped down to f16, though this is really not an impediment as for most beauty or glamour shots, you want the lens more open, I would imagine.

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pbase & dpreview supporter
Fuji forum member since 5/2001
http://www.pbase.com/artichoke
 
The macro shots you refer to were not of roosters (males) but of chickens (females) and not really exotic ($1.50 per chick at the feed store). But thanks for the compliment on the detail. I shot them and was also amazed. I follow the Fuji forum as I have an S1. I do have to wonder what one would shoot as subjects for "glamour macro" or "beauty macro" - maybe Moles? The subject probably has to be under 30. Here is a shot of my daughter with the 105 and SD9 - converted to b&w. She is not holding a cat or a dog (or a rooster!); it's a Nigerian Dwarf Goat!

Rick Decker



http://www.lightreflection.com
 
Hi....

I am looking for a lens with macro capability for beauty...anyone
had any experience with lenses for the S2? I was looking at the
Nikkor 105 with macro and the Sigma 105 with macro....any help
would be appreciated....
hi,

can you be more specific on what u mean by "beauty"?

i had to do some extreme close ups recently so i had to buy 60/2.8 micro which is one helluva great micro lense. here's what it does:

scaled down original: (1/128, f19, 60mm, iso 100, 4256x2848)



100% crop from original



on the other hand i hate swaping lenses so i mostly shoot with 28-70 and get pretty decent results unless macro capabilities are really needed:
http://www.shaker.ru/dpr-puzyri.jpg

so the question is: what kind of beauty are u talking about?

regards
 

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