Voting Thread: FZ200 vs FZ150

I'm with Jerry on this one. Holding out for now. If the FZ150 weren't such a success, then people wouldn't be having so much debate about upgrading. The FZ100 was exciting at first, but the results were not what they should have been and the FZ150 was a great correction. I'm happy that Panasonic found a way to return the constant 2.8 lens and some time I know I will opt for it. But the FZ150 is still a great camera for my needs. The only downside that I can see to not upgrading right now is the depreciation value. Those who sold their 150s right away, got the highest resale price. So, less upgrade cost.
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Steven, these are great. Absolutely nailed the expression and lighting on #2. I agree that Black Friday will be the best time to buy an FZ200. That's when I got my 150. Timing is important with those sales, so you have be vigilant. Some people picked up wildcard prices that were down to around $335 if I recall. Mine was around $375 or so. Still, the camera has mostly been selling around retail lately at $499.
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There's been a ton of excellent photos of both cameras, but not many people can say they've used both. Some who have both said they prefer the FZ200 but I haven't seen many opinions the other way ...
DxO Optics Pro and $600 are what added up the difference. DxO is model-specific (camera & lens). It corrects lens softness and noise, to the extent that's reasonable. Depending on the camera, it can make a very substantial difference. (It was great for the Canon G10, not much good for the LX5.)

So here I was, comparing an FZ150 + DxO with an FZ200 without. Under those circumstances:
  1. The softness of the FZ200 lens at f:2.8 looks like less of an advantage than I'd hoped for, unless the softness can be corrected.
  2. The FZ150+ has the edge on noise.
  3. $600 -- a clear advantage in for the FZ150.
So I returned the 200 and and will wait. I may try again when/if DxO comes thru. I would like to have the brighter lens and the much better EVF of the 200 -- and probably other advantages too.
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We just returned from a trip to London and Paris. I took about 1100 photos with the FZ150. In that time I saw one person changing lenses on his DSLR at the Claude Monet home north of Paris. When you are on a tour you want that camera around your neck. The FZ150 weighs 528 g (1.16 lb / 18.62 oz). The FZ200 weighs 588 g (1.30 lb / 20.74 oz). The FZ200 is just too big and too heavy for those who want pictures without pain.

Don

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I upgraded to the FZ200 from the FZ150 a few weeks ago and I'm loving the new camera. I really like the EVF clairity and the 2.8 lens which is pretty good for what I want to take photos of. Another thing that I find really good is the reconfiguration of some of the buttons as I seemed to often hit the playback button just when I wanted to take a good photo. With where they moved it to I now don't have to worry. I was fortunate in that I had a friend that really wanted my FZ150 so was able to sell it without any problem. This is my 4th FZ camera as I started with the FZ18, then the FZ100. I really didn't like the IQ of the FZ100 and the FZ150 was much better. I don't find a significant difference in IQ with the FZ200 except being able to get better shots in lower light. I also got a new 16gb SD card that was on sale. It's a SanDisk Extreme 45MB/s Class 10 and it is great. I'm really looking forward to giving the camera a good workout this fall once the leaves start changing and then when I head south over the winter. Is the upgrade really worth it?? For me who likes to upgrade many things I feel it was a good move and I won't regret making the move.
 
I had the FZ150 and loved it. But the 2.8 constant aperture along withthe improved viewfinder image, control set and image quality makes it a no brainer. If the 2.8 were the only improvement it was worth it. Do you know how much you have to pay for a lens of that reach that can do 2.8 on a DSLR? Now this is not a DSLR but it is getting so close in so many ways for a pittance, I grab it before I grab my Canon 5DIII 95% of the time.
 
Don, I have to admit I'd be reluctant to take the D80 and the 18-200VR on vacation these days. I'd also want to have the 70-300VR along. So, yes, that's getting heavier than I want to lug around. Getting older makes you rethink some things. But, I'd sure like to be able to handle both the FZ150 and FZ200 because the numbers don't look like the FZ200 would be noticably larger and heavier. I like the FZ150 that I have, but are you really finding a big difference in the two models?
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I agree! Image quality at least as good as 150 with a much better EVF and feature set. The heron Image makes the case better than words.
 
I think the FZ200 and its predecessor have attracted a lot of attention from current DSLR owners, such as myself, and those thinking of going the DSLR route. Since Panasonic tried its hand at selling DSLRs (L1 and L10) and found it couldn't really compete against Canon and Nikon, it has smartly focused its attention on doing what it does best. I can't say my love affair with Nikon DSLRs is over (I'm sort of lusting for the upcoming D600), but the whole system buy in and lug around is the issue anymore.
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If you don't have either camera i would probably opt for the 200 but if you have the 150 no way would i upgrade. Imo the 150 is the camera that produces better images

Just one persons opinion.
 
We just returned from a trip to London and Paris. I took about 1100 photos with the FZ150. In that time I saw one person changing lenses on his DSLR at the Claude Monet home north of Paris. When you are on a tour you want that camera around your neck. The FZ150 weighs 528 g (1.16 lb / 18.62 oz). The FZ200 weighs 588 g (1.30 lb / 20.74 oz). The FZ200 is just too big and too heavy for those who want pictures without pain.

Don

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Given the extra couple of ounces, I assume that you're joking. I can walk around all day with a Canon Rebel and a 55-250mm zoom, without pain, fatigue, or any other discomfort.
 
If you don't have either camera i would probably opt for the 200 but if you have the 150 no way would i upgrade. Imo the 150 is the camera that produces better images

Just one persons opinion.
Based on your control tests using both side by side?
 
Until such a time as someone with both cameras shoots a head to head set of images at maximum 600 mm telephoto with aperture settings ranging from F5.2 to F8, using identical shutter speeds and ISO settings, I feel that the FZ150 and 200 cannot be accurately judged as to which produces the better images. The fact remains that the lens of the 200 is entirely different with a broader scope for gathering light than that of the FZ150 at the longer end. Everyone knows that the limit of the FZ150 is F5.2, so opinions in relation to the FZ200 shot anywhere between F5 and F2.8 at full zoom are pretty much irrelevant.

The only thing FZ200 photos shot between F2.8 and F5 indicate is how sharp the newer lens actually is at maximum telephoto, plus of course how DOF is also affected by wider apertures. I know my 8 year old FZ20 will shoot at F2.8 all the way through the lens range if desired, but there’s absolutely no point in my attempting to compare what is possibly the best lens ever to appear on a FZ camera with that of my FZ150 simply because my FZ150 bottoms out at F5.2. It would be a pretty futile exercise to say the least! :-)

As for the guy who claims FZ200 images display better colours than those he’s seen from the FZ150, how can he accurately judge? Unless, of course, he can be sure that the many in-camera settings governing the output of images in respect of tone, colour, saturation, etc., were set exactly the same on both models! Then of course, one has to consider whether the photos were originally raw or Jpeg files and how much PP was done to them before uploading.

All in all, I do not have the FZ200. I do, however, have the FZ150. Ergonomically the FZ200 looks like an improvement, most of all because that stupidly positioned picture review button on the 150 has clearly been moved to a better place on the update. Based on that improvement alone, if I didn’t own either model, I’d buy a FZ200, the added bonuses being the better EVF and the versatility that those extra F-stops will afford the user.

Don’t however, assume that the FZ200 takes better photos than the FZ150. Of all the samples shown here and elsewhere, I’ve seen nothing whatsoever to suggest that is the case. Furthermore, do not underestimate the FZ150’s ability to produce pretty darned good results up to IS0 1600 – even in my preferred Jpeg setting. In my experience, the FZ150 is far removed from the base ISO superzooms Panasonic offered us during previous years. Naturally I’m not suggesting that the FZ200 is any less of a capable camera, it’s just that until I see those tests performed as I mentioned above, I cannot form anything like an accurate conclusion on those photographs, which to me are the most important thing regarding any camera.

So, all the best making your final decision. ;-)

Regards

Stevie Boy
 
When I joined the bridge camera group it was the FZ28 weighing less than a pound (14.71 oz). Looking for an even better camera I considered the latest Sony (HX200V) and the Canon (SX40 HS). A Sony store near my home had their model in stock. Nice camera but once around my neck I thought too big, bulky, and heavy. I can tell the difference between 14.71 ounces and 18.62 ounces. Where do you draw the line? My line was at one pound. OK, it’s crossed but the camera is a marvel. Each person has to decide what is right for them. Soon the choice will be take pictures with your smart phone or buy a DSLR.

Don
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Ha - in shot number two above the white bird is giving the 'peace' sign! Goes without saying how good the images are.

I opted for the FZ200 - mainly on the strength of the FZ150 - and that as of last week my 'scrimping and saving' for a new camera came together. The cost difference between the two was $150, and my thoughts on the upgrade:

1.) A 2.8 constant aperture zoom - those things cost thousands for a dslr.

2.) A vastly improved EVF

3.) A better positioning of the controls and buttons.

So - with that in mind, and having already been completely sold on the 150's imaging qualities - I thought to myself - the 200 should equal, if not better, the 150's imaging while adding some more low light capability. Hope I'm right - the camera arrives to-morrow..
 
Yes. When I sold my FZ150 a month ago it was a slight gamble that Panasonic hadn't messed up a terrific recipe. But after seeing images and slow mo vids on YouTube I now know it was a good decision. I NEED the better slow-motion. And although my images are not as well composed as some of those in this forum, I know the image quality will match them as that happened after a little experience with my FZ150. For me it was about a $250 difference and yep t is worth it.
 
I think the FZ200 and its predecessor have attracted a lot of attention from current DSLR owners, such as myself, and those thinking of going the DSLR route
Yes, and more besides. I'm a NEX user, but I recognise the limits of zoom on a NEX. The 18-200LE is great but for wildlife you often need to reach further, and there's only two ways to do that: Going the $2000+ full DSLR zoom route or a good superzoom. Birds are by far the most common thing you see on safari, but 200mm can't really "bird". And I really hope this FZ200 is what it says on the label because I'm thinking my NEX + FZ200 when going on safari sounds perfect. I've never been satisfied with previous superzooms including the FZ150 when testing them in stores (which naturally are lowlight situations). I have been spoiled by APS-C IQ too, which is another thing holding me back. A full FZ200 will cost and weigh less than a hypothetical 100-300mm f/4-6.3 or 400mm f/4 NEX lens (both of which don't exist). But if its IQ is worse than a FZ150 which I have tested and was "almost but not quite" for me, then I may just skip it altogether.

Anyway, I'm glad for this thread, it is looking increasingly likely that I'll get the FZ200.
 

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